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headlight vacuum hose kit 1968 charger

Started by flathead1946, December 07, 2011, 06:49:13 PM

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flathead1946

Who sells the vacuum hose kits for the vacuum headlights for a 68 charger? How much? Thanks in advance.

Just 6T9 CHGR

The kits were a pretty limited production run.

Bill Allphin used to carry them...shoot him an email and see if he still has any

www.amhightechauto.com
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


gtx6970

Quote from: flathead1946 on December 07, 2011, 06:49:13 PM
Who sells the vacuum hose kits for the vacuum headlights for a 68 charger? How much? Thanks in advance.

nobody does,
they are gone and no plans to bring them back at this time. Sales went well, then dropped like a stone in a pond.

flathead1946

 Anybody have a kit laying around?? finders fee???? Thanks

bill440rt

"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

BBKNARF

You can also make your own kit, Home Depot or Lowes carry similar hoses if you want to go that root.
68 Charger, slowly in the works, 451 c.i. approx. 535 hp @ the flywheel, so far best time in the 1/4
11.21 @ 119 mph, full exhaust, stock suspension, 4:10s @ 3640 pounds.

bull

Yea, you might look into making it on your own. I believe much of the vacuum hose can still be found since some of the more popular models out there also used vacuum actuators. For example, I believe the Corvettes used a yellow stripe hose.

I still don't completely understand why those who once produced it won't continue to do so on an as-needed basis. You know, sell one/build one/ship one. :shruggy:

resq302

Quote from: bull on December 10, 2011, 04:19:52 AM
Yea, you might look into making it on your own. I believe much of the vacuum hose can still be found since some of the more popular models out there also used vacuum actuators. For example, I believe the Corvettes used a yellow stripe hose.

I still don't completely understand why those who once produced it won't continue to do so on an as-needed basis. You know, sell one/build one/ship one. :shruggy:

Bull,

Probably cause they were outsourced and were not made in house.  Chances are you need a minimum order in order for it to be worth while for the manufacturer and the person selling them. 

I ended up cleaning up my original ones and then just restriped them.  The striping was a major pain in the arse as I had to have my dad hold the tube straight and tight while I went down it with a roller.
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

gtx6970

Quote from: bull on December 10, 2011, 04:19:52 AM
I still don't completely understand why those who once produced it won't continue to do so on an as-needed basis. You know, sell one/build one/ship one. :shruggy:

sure sounds easy enough


bull

Quote from: gtx6970 on December 11, 2011, 11:01:57 AM
Quote from: bull on December 10, 2011, 04:19:52 AM
I still don't completely understand why those who once produced it won't continue to do so on an as-needed basis. You know, sell one/build one/ship one. :shruggy:

sure sounds easy enough

Sure does. But evidentally it's impossible.

So what type of machine puts these stripes on the hoses?

bull

Quote from: resq302 on December 10, 2011, 01:16:22 PM

Bull,

Probably cause they were outsourced and were not made in house.  Chances are you need a minimum order in order for it to be worth while for the manufacturer and the person selling them.  

Right. Since it's bad business to build anything in the US anymore it all comes down to minimum orders, mass production overseas, bottom line, etc. Run off 200 of them and Mr. 201 gets the finger. And half the time the suppliers don't want to be bothered with this stuff unless it's an order big enough to build an aircraft carrier. Even if someone wanted to make these kits they'd be lucky to find the right supplies because those people are all about mass production too.

gtx6970


Quote from: bull on December 12, 2011, 03:41:24 AM
Quote from: gtx6970 on December 11, 2011, 11:01:57 AM
Quote from: bull on December 10, 2011, 04:19:52 AM
I still don't completely understand why those who once produced it won't continue to do so on an as-needed basis. You know, sell one/build one/ship one. :shruggy:

sure sounds easy enough

Sure does. But evidentally it's impossible.

So what type of machine puts these stripes on the hoses?



Bull,
I'm not trying to start a pissing match. but this has been brought up several times.
But setting up machine to run is time consuming , there for doing it to run one set is not feesable or good business sense.
Setting up said machine to run hundreds  is best  bringing  time (aka, costs) per set down.
Problem then becomes you know have  lots of sets just setting on the shelf, ( aka drives up your costs of goods sold, aka brings down cash on hand)

These hoses are just like the battery cables,,,, Great sales when they 1st came out, but once the initial sales rush was over, they died.  I use to sell the OE style battery cables maybe 4 or 5 a month, now I sell maybe half dozen a year.
Trust me the manufactuer is far from stupid, if he honestly thought the sales would warrent it, he would have no problem running off maybe another hundred sets, but he feels there ins't enough interest to do so.

Process to make them involves multiple tools.
there is the extruder to make the ribbed hoses, then another to make the molded connector at the headlight switch, then anther process to attach the 2 together. then there is a special tool to run the colored stripes on said hoses.
The stripes are done with a heated wheel that presses down on the hose as the wheel is heated essentially melting the ink into the rubber hoses. ( electrical wiring tracers colors are done the same way )

He would entertain offers to buy said tooling and you can make all you want. If your serious I'll ask if I can forward the contact info

gtx6970

Quoteit all comes down to minimum orders,, bottom line

You are correct anyone is business knows this and adheres to it as close as possibile in order to stay in business
Cost of goods sold is money tied up in on hand inventory, NOT necassarilly what a part costs for purchase

So Yes, Cost  of goods sold  is a huge factor in business .


bull

I'm sure I'm not going to change anyone's way of thinking but I wish the production guys would get past the fact that they're not making Camry taillights or Accord side mirror housings. This is a hobby and hobby customers have different needs. We've already got Dorman or Autolite, or Duralast, etc., for our drivers. We need a different method and a different way of thinking for our classics. And I'm not singling you out, I'm talking about the entire thought process that has put this nation in the hole it's in today.

If my friend was able to make money from his machine shop business while supplement his income making stainless 33-34 Plymouth grill inserts one order at a time, I think anyone can. He cared about the bottom line but his concern for the hobby was of equal value. You don't always have to choose between one or the other.

64plymouth

Valley Vintage Auto Parts has a limited supply of the 68-69 vacuum headlight hose kits for 68-69 chargers 440-355-4085