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Absolute, no option 68 Charger!

Started by XS29L9Bxxxxxx, December 02, 2011, 10:00:37 AM

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tracpack440

That car is part of the charger history.  I have only seen one slant six car before and it was back in the 80's. That car restored back to original  would have a huge crowd around it at any car show. And Im shure all the mopar mags would want to have a article spread about it.
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maxwellwedge

If it wasn't for all the cars I have apart right now, in various stages of restoration, If this car was more "all there" the auction would be over and this car would be in my garage.

Hey - It would be cooler than a 4-door /6 Valiant....no?

gtx6970


ACUDANUT

When the auction closes, we shall see what it is worth..With all the positive comments about it, it should be priceless. It's just, not for me. Cheers.  :cheers:
I wonder if people just talk the talk, and never bid. :scratchchin:

maxwellwedge

Well - Like I said earlier - If it was a complete car it would be in my garage. I have pulled the trigger more than Clint Eastwood.... :lol:

(Much to my wifes dismay...who truly believes I'm sick :icon_smile_blackeye:    :lol:   )

Ghoste

No one said it was priceless either.  What they said was that it was unusual and rare enough that it deserved a proper restoration and not turned into another RT clone or a GL or whatever.
For the record I can't bid on it either so my opinion is as useful as putting a toilet paper dispenser on the wingtips of a jet airliner.  But it doesn't dissuade me from saying that is a unique and cool piece of Charger history that deserves to go the right owner.

bill440rt

Quote from: Ghoste on December 03, 2011, 10:24:51 AM
Except that no one is calling a "muscle" car.  Everyone worried about what is under the hood or how it would stand up to a 75 whatever or how badly the ricers would take it in a drifting contest are completely missing the point.  It should be restored and shown and everyone who needs to see a Hemi underhood to get their rocks off can go by it to the next car.  No problem.  But for anyone who apppreciates automotive history and were unaware that such a car could even exist would be able to enjoy it.


Perfectly said. I agree 100% with the majority on this one as well. It's a rare car that is well deserving of a stock resto. With the color combo & complete lack of options, it could be argued that it is a "one-of-one"?? If I had another resto project in mind & wanted a Charger that was different, I'd surely be thinking this one over as well. Very cool, & very unique.

Quote from: gtx6970 on December 04, 2011, 10:49:33 AM
Quote from: maxwellwedge on December 04, 2011, 09:31:54 AM
Hey - It would be cooler than a 4-door /6 Valiant....no?

:rofl: Good one  :smilielol:

:yesnod:
Yep, I immediately thought of that one as well! First car that came to my mind.
Actually, wasn't there a 318 '68 Charger that was restored to bone stock to that level hitting the show circuit several years ago?? From what I remember, it was green. I thought I read also that the owner just wanted to prove what could be done with a base model car given a concours resto. Anyone remember it?  :scratchchin:
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resq302

Quote from: maxwellwedge on December 04, 2011, 12:23:07 PM
Well - Like I said earlier - If it was a complete car it would be in my garage. I have pulled the trigger more than Clint Eastwood.... :lol:

(Much to my wifes dismay...who truly believes I'm sick :icon_smile_blackeye:    :lol:   )

But you are sick.   Just like the rest of us.  We all have a really bad case of incurable....... Mopar-itis. :lol:
Brian
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Chad L. Magee

Quote from: Back N Black on December 03, 2011, 10:26:23 PM
Quote from: Vainglory, Esq. on December 03, 2011, 08:37:02 PM
I don't buy the whole "losing to a Pinto" thing.  I lose to a lot of crappy cars on the street in my Hemi Charger, because I don't race it on the street.  It's just not smart.  I don't care how much of a punk the guy in the car next to me is.  I'm a big boy.  I don't take the bait.

Nevertheless, there is simply no denying the coolness factor of this thing, if restored to original condition.

Ok ,not on the street, on the track. The point is its a 3800 pound car with a /6 engine. I agree that it should be restored back to original, but i would not put the money or effort into the car and not too many people on this site would buy it and restore it to original.

I would, if I had the storage space.  However, I also already own a 70 base model Charger /6 that needs restored (in due time), so it just would not be fair to this 68 to wait its turn on me.  Hopefully, it gets restored back correctly as it should.... 

As for the numbers, there are more than 1 1968 /6 3-speed column manual Chargers out there, as I have seen a handful of them myself.  There are probably as many of those type of Chargers as the 318 versions (3-speed manual, no factory production numbers listed) made that same year.  It may be a 1 of 1 with all of the options (or lack of) compiled, but we will never truly know as that is not how Dodge kept their records on these cars....

Yes, I know rarity does not always equal valuable.  However, rarity does equal higher attention at car shows when done right, which can sometimes trump a more valuable car.  Sometimes that is the whole purpose of the game.  Which do you remember more: a mundane musclecar in a crowd of them or an oddball that sticks out at you at a national show?....

As for those who detest low-powered Chargers, guess who gets better MPG (when the gas prices go up and people start to complain about it)?  These are cheaper to drive to shows than the big block version.  Notice I did not say "fun to drive" though, as the big blocks pretty much have that one....

It would be interesting if someone was to take this one, restore it and set it up to run in the FAST drag racing class, just to see what it would do.....
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PocketThunder

Most of you know or remember that i put a hillside hemi in my 69 Charger 500 just so i could drive it around.  That car was a hit at mopars in the park.  I drove it to Milwaukee and back and got something like 22 mpg also.    :2thumbs:
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ITSA426

I agree with Chad on the gas mileage point.  On the interstate I can squeeze 20 mpg out of my 318 poly 3 on the tree with a 3.23 rear end.  Having no options is at least a good conversation starter.  These were nice cars even stripped but I can't imagine why someone would have bought one with nothing on it.  I'm glad someone did.  I still get lots of thumbs up and it's probably the one I drive most. 

Chad L. Magee

It was probably ordered by a dealership to show how cheap a 1968 Dodge Charger could be.  They could have pushed it as a cheap car with style.  That is why the 1970 base models with the /6 were advertised for $3,001 for that specific reason.  Once people were in the dealership, the salesman would lead them to the higher dollar Chargers (with more options) to get the real commission....
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F8-4life

Hell I'd take this charger over a comparable '68 RT auto car anyday.

greymag

I remember seeing a 68 Charger 225 at the Boerne Charger meet a few years ago complete with original blue paint. It was the loneliest looking 6 cylinder I ever saw in that big engine bay. I would leave it alone except possibly an old Offenhauser aluminum 4 bbl intake

hemi68charger

Quote from: greymag on December 06, 2011, 03:10:05 PM
I remember seeing a 68 Charger 225 at the Boerne Charger meet a few years ago complete with original blue paint. It was the loneliest looking 6 cylinder I ever saw in that big engine bay. I would leave it alone except possibly an old Offenhauser aluminum 4 bbl intake

That was a cool car. I remember it too......
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Quote from: ACUDANUT on December 04, 2011, 10:55:14 AM
When the auction closes, we shall see what it is worth..With all the positive comments about it, it should be priceless. It's just, not for me. Cheers.  :cheers:
I wonder if people just talk the talk, and never bid. :scratchchin:




If there's someone to trust, it's who the members' are in this thread that are talking the talk.

RallyeMike

2 days to go and under 3k for pretty solid 68 Charger body.

You /6 lovers better step up to plate and save it, because some yahoo is going to make a nice drag car out of it  :icon_smile_blackeye:
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tracpack440

Yep looks like it will sell cheap. 
1969 Charger  R/T SE 4 spd dana

Mikesmoparperformance

Quote from: 69CoronetRT on December 02, 2011, 01:31:40 PM
Radio delete, A/C delete, V8 delete, automatic delete, SG delete, PS delete, PB delete, PW delete, tinted window delete, chrome road wheel delete, bucket seat delete....

Interesting car. I'd like to see the fender tag on that one.

It's with in the ad:

bottom row:XP29  21  1  31  306  193686

second row:12345678  ax  trm  pnt  ubs

                     50      8     4    c6r  ww1 r

third row:    :(3rd row is blank)

fourth row:   abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz

                     4

Data plate, vin and all body numbers match.

Cool car indeed only only 1 of 904 slant six cars. only one got a 3 spd manual. !!!
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bakerhillpins

Quote from: Mikesmoparperformance on December 07, 2011, 06:16:32 AM
Cool car indeed only only 1 of 904 slant six cars. only one got a 3 spd manual. !!!

:scratchchin:  I could have swore that this exact topic came up earlier this year on a red /6 3 on the tree (on ebay) and that there were like 6 or 8 of them total?
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greenpigs

When the new owner is all done restoring it back to original & takes its first spin, I bet the \6 goes under a bench.   :Twocents:
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ACUDANUT

Yep..Also, it does not even have the original /6 or transmission...It looks like it's going to need a new k-frame too.  IMO, if it does not have the original numbers matching drivetrain, why bother making it look all "original". :Twocents:

Chad L. Magee

Quote from: ACUDANUT on December 07, 2011, 11:08:53 AM
Yep..Also, it does not even have the original /6 or transmission...It looks like it's going to need a new k-frame too.  IMO, if it does not have the original numbers matching drivetrain, why bother making it look all "original". :Twocents:

Because you can have an oddball Charger that will attract attention at car shows for what it is, not for what it could have been had it been ordered that way.  If you drop a big block in it, how much attention will you have setting with the other Chargers out there who have done the same thing to a 318 car?  Personally, it would be cool to put an all aluminum /6 in it (they made them in 1961-2 or so), multi-carb intake and see how fast you could get it to go looking purely stock outside.  To add to it, you could make a non-factory /6 call-out decal for the hood, as the 70 big blocks could be optioned with those call-outs.  (Yes, I have seriously thought about this for my car).....
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