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Superbird RM23V0A149789 Ext? Trans? Inter? Seats? "First" Superbird

Started by Arnie Cunningham, August 03, 2012, 12:23:30 PM

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Arnie Cunningham

Greetings All,

Has anyone found what happened to the Superbird with the lowest VIN?
It showed up at Clairpointe a full week before any of the other cars - Pilot Car?
It sat at Clairpointe until after all the other Superbirds had been shipped - 12-19-69.
The date shipped is hand written, not typed and a note "Picked up by Geo Lynch, Production Planning"
is written on the list.
Who was George Lynch?  (Not the Dokken guitarist, I assume lol)
What did he do with the car?

I doubt it would have served as a magazine/press/display car - those would have already been
out on the circuit.

Any ideas?
Brennan
Brennan R. Cook RM23U0A169492 EV2 Manual Black Buckets Armrest 14" Rallyes
Arnie Cunningham was the Plymouth obsessed youth in the novel/movie Christine.
Brcook.com contains the entire NASCAR shipping list of Superbirds sorted by VIN and a number of other pages dedicated to production information.

Arnie Cunningham

Brennan R. Cook RM23U0A169492 EV2 Manual Black Buckets Armrest 14" Rallyes
Arnie Cunningham was the Plymouth obsessed youth in the novel/movie Christine.
Brcook.com contains the entire NASCAR shipping list of Superbirds sorted by VIN and a number of other pages dedicated to production information.

WINGIN IT

Maybe him?
Don't know what role he would have played in '69 , or if he worked for Chrsyler at the time...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Lynch_(racing_driver)

Redbird

I had written this a couple of years ago on this site. As I read the memos on aerowarrior.com, it seemed to me that the jigs to make the parts were not done production of cars was started or in some cases after car production was started. From the memos it seems to me that the first 5 cars were pilot cars. I'd also guess that the white car used for press photos was one of these 5 cars.



Bruce, nice thoughts on why Superbirds were completed by a date certain. When you look at the 1920 list I think it is interesting that production ramped up, the first days they were learning how to put cars together before they got to full production. I had posted this last year:

New found Superbird production information
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The www.aerowarriors.com/new.html page has a lot of new found information on Superbird production.

The 10/21/69 minutes item #9 says there will be 5 pilot cars and 1 body in white at that time. The NASCAR 1920 serial # list (available from the Daytona Superbird auto club) shows 5 cars delivered 10/17, 10/24 and 10/29. All the later cars on the 1920 list come in larger groups. My thought is that the 5 cars could have been the pilot cars. Brennan Cook has just sorted the 1920 list on dodgecharger.com (aero cars). He has identified RM23?OA149855, the potential 5th car built in serial # to be possible. A thought would be that could have been the BIW car (I know BIW cars didn't have serial #'s) but it would have the modifications started.

The 10/30/69 meeting minutes. Item #3)a) says there was interference between the air cleaner and hood (question here why would this happen if the '70 Coronets already worked since the back of the Coronet hood was used for the Superbird?) First 22 parts to be reworked.

Item #3)f) A pillar moulding fit problems. First 160 sets to be reworked. (note: I have one of the first 130 cars plus a mid production car and 1 set of parts counter mouldings from 1977, 3 sets of mouldings. The 3 passenger sets are identical, the early driver one has differences)

Item 3)g) the first 31 hood character lines different those hoods to be used.

Items 3)a&b) first 100 valances to be used but need changes.

Item 7) 5 tools and gages missing (David Patik I believe called them fixtures) So on the early cars were some things hand drilled and fitted?

Item 2) first 500 cars had late show up of decals (wing, nose or quarter?) Where were these cars fitted with decals in a field? (from the memo it doesn't look like the dealers put them on)

11/13/69 minutes. 1)on schedule 2)Decals stop and go shipments-overtime 4)defects-especially scoops (again my thought is what do we see on early cars?).

11/13/69 Milestones Memo there was a proposed Belvedere Body in White to Creative proposed 9/10-actual 9/15. From the Nascar 1920 list the 1st. Superbird was received at Clairpointe 10/17. So these are probably not the same cars. Was the process to send a car to Creative before the pilot cars to fit things?

Same 11/13/69 Milestones Memo says the first production cars were shipped to Clairpointe 11/13. The NASCAR 1920 list shows car #6 shipped to Clairpointe 11/3. I believe this reinforces that the first 5 cars were pilot cars.


After reading this info I think it would be very interesting to look at the very early cars, especially 1-5,1-22,1-31,1-160 to see what was different from the later cars, and especially to have the early car owners look at their cars.

learical1

Quote from: Arnie Cunningham on August 03, 2012, 12:23:30 PM
Greetings All,

The date shipped is hand written, not typed and a note "Picked up by Geo Lynch, Production Planning"
is written on the list.
Who was George Lynch? 
Any ideas?
Brennan

Maybe "Picked up by Geo (from) Lynch (Road) Production Planning"?
Bruce

Arnie Cunningham

Quote from: learical1 on August 03, 2012, 02:13:08 PM
Quote from: Arnie Cunningham on August 03, 2012, 12:23:30 PM
Greetings All,

The date shipped is hand written, not typed and a note "Picked up by Geo Lynch, Production Planning"
is written on the list.
Who was George Lynch? 
Any ideas?
Brennan

Maybe "Picked up by Geo (from) Lynch (Road) Production Planning"?

Yes, the "Lynch" part is bit confusing.  "George Lynch" shows up on many other documents having to do with program.  Sort of another weird  coincidence that George Lynch worked at the Lynch Road facility.  Maybe they named the road and plant after him lol.
Brennan R. Cook RM23U0A169492 EV2 Manual Black Buckets Armrest 14" Rallyes
Arnie Cunningham was the Plymouth obsessed youth in the novel/movie Christine.
Brcook.com contains the entire NASCAR shipping list of Superbirds sorted by VIN and a number of other pages dedicated to production information.