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Part number needed - B Body wheel studs - disc brake

Started by Magnumcharger, October 11, 2011, 07:35:44 AM

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Magnumcharger

Good Day All,
I have two rotors in need of wheel studs and require a current part number to buy a set.

I previously went through my local Dodge Dealer's parts department, and got 10 studs. Unfortunately, I didn't open the box until I got home and found that what I bought was nowhere near what I'd expected.

So, I need a good and current PN to give the counter dude...
Thanks!
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

charger Downunder

Here ya go they even have left hand thread ones which are hard to find.
http://www.apexautosports.com/store.html
Did you buy just the plain rotor or did you purchase the hub and rotor combined. If you bought just the plain rotor what brand was it.
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ODZKing

2823236, 2823237  that is from the 69 parts book w/disc brakes.
NAPA has them Part Number: BK 6414090
That what you're looking for?

Magnumcharger

Thanks guys! :cheers:
I'll let you know how this works out.
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

hemi71x

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Did you buy just the plain rotor or did you purchase the hub and rotor combined. If you bought just the plain rotor what brand was it.

There is only one company that i know of that reproduces rotors for the old 1966-69 Bendix disc brake systems.
A company named Dura Brake.
It's the Rotor only, you use your old hub assembly.
Better be sitting down when they tell you a price for a rotor.
When i was inquiring about rotors, the price was $170.00 each.
But what ya gonna do, when they are the only game in town, and you need to purchase rotors?

RF-4C Phantom 69-370 Zweibrucken, Germany

Magnumcharger

Quote from: charger Downunder on October 11, 2011, 07:51:59 AM
Did you buy just the plain rotor or did you purchase the hub and rotor combined. If you bought just the plain rotor what brand was it.

Actually, I bought a set of used rotors, calipers and spindles. These were taken off another 1968 Charger R/T.
The studs were removed for whatever reason...the owner opted to change these brakes for a Wilwood setup.
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

Magnumcharger

Quote from: ODZKing on October 11, 2011, 08:19:34 AM
2823236, 2823237  that is from the 69 parts book w/disc brakes.
NAPA has them Part Number: BK 6414090
That what you're looking for?

So I tried the factory part numbers at my local Dodge dealer. The L/H thread one is completely out to lunch.
The R/H thread one upscales to a new PN, the same one that is found in the Mopar Performance catalog.
These are the studs I got, tried on my rotor, and found to be too small in the splined section. As well, they're approximately 4.5" in length.
I'd have gladly cut them shorter if the spline section had fit! But- I ended up returning them for a credit.

I then went to my local NAPA Auto Parts, gave them my NAPA number, which showed as good, and displayed a picture of the stud on-screen! (Yay!)
Unfortunately, they are out of stock...everywhere. The counter guy did a search on the number and they're nowhere to be found! (Boo!)

Going to try CarQuest next!
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

gtx6970

Quote from: Magnumcharger on October 13, 2011, 06:37:19 AM
Going to try CarQuest next!

Well,
I'm curious, did you find any?

I'm pretty sure you can get the droman rights without to much trouble, lefts on the other had will be tough. All left hand wheel studs were dis-continued several years ago .

Magnumcharger

Went back to NAPA with a wheel stud I had kicking around in my tool box, just for comparison's sake.
I'm pretty sure this stud came off the front drum brake of an A108, as I'd changed these studs out for longer Moroso units.

I pushed it into my disc brake rotor assembly to see how it would fit. The splines were exactly right, but the stud itself was too short. As well the flange at the bottom was too wide to snug the stud completely in there.

So, the criteria was: longer (correct diameter) splined section, longer stud overall length, smaller diameter flange, 1/2" thread.

The parts guy dug through his supply and found an acceptable wheel stud.
Now I just have to get it up home (this weekend) and see how it fits!
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

gtx6970

Cool,
I have a few of the left and rights for the 67-69 disc brake rotors. so if you need measurements just ask

Magnumcharger

Quote from: gtx6970 on October 20, 2011, 08:10:44 AM
Cool,
I have a few of the left and rights for the 67-69 disc brake rotors. so if you need measurements just ask

Could you put a picture up?
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

Magnumcharger

After getting the new wheel studs back to my garage (4.5 hours away), I find that the studs are ALMOST the right ones...but not close enough.

The splined section needs to be further up the stud to perfectly fit into the rotor! So, if I can find a wheel stud that essentually reverses the position of the shank section and the splines on the barrel of the stud, I'll be home free.
(As pictured).
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

ODZKing

I checked my NAPA here to see if they had them?  No, Indianapolis is the main warehouse, and that is where they are.  He'd heve to order them.
The BK 6414090 should be correct ... no left thread available.
If yours is a 69 with disc, those were the numbers.
If you want me to check further places, let me know.

gtx6970

Ft stud 1967 thru 1969 B-body with disc brakes ONLY
Left hands are Dorman 610-137
Right hands are 610-136( shown)

Magnumcharger

Thank you for posting those pictures and numbers!
It would be nice if NAPA (Canada) got friendly-like and brought in the studs I need, but they've already told me no way.

So I'm printing off the picture of your wheel studs and hitting up another supplier today.
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

Magnumcharger

Wow! What a ride!
After numerous answers (all the same - out of stock - can't get), I contacted Car Quest Auto parts in Dartmouth, and they agreed to order 10 studs at $1.77 each, directly from Dorman, the manufacturer.

The other alternative was to get them on eBay, and pay stupid shipping costs.
Summit had them as well, and the cheapest shipping for them was $26.00!

So, I'm awaiting a package now...three weeks.

Thank you very much to those that provided me the correct information - gtx6970, and a special  :2thumbs: to ODZKing for offering to take care of this issue for me!
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1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

gtx6970

Are you expecting left hand studs?

If so, your going to be dis-appointed, trust me.

Magnumcharger

I'm one of those people who don't buy into the left-hand thread business, despite it's quaintness.

I ordered the Dorman lug nuts through the only place in town that knew what I was talking about, Car Quest Auto Parts.
It took three weeks to get them from Kentucky.

Picked them up last Friday, took them back to my garage on Saturday and had them installed in mere minutes!

Finally...resolution!! Thank you again to all those who assisted me in my quest! :cheers:
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

Ghoste

Nice to see them coming together buddy.  Now go clean up those rotors. :icon_smile_big:

ODZKing

Very nice.  It's nice to put a project to bed.   :2thumbs:

Magnumcharger

Quote from: Ghoste on November 22, 2011, 11:04:50 AM
Nice to see them coming together buddy.  Now go clean up those rotors. :icon_smile_big:

That's next on the "brakes" agenda...after I get the Bendix booster, which should be arriving shortly!  :2thumbs:
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed