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Started by elacruze, November 18, 2011, 10:00:20 AM

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elacruze

New Garage, going up. I'll update as things go along.
Anybody got flooring recommendations? This will be a working area, so I'm thinking epoxy not tile.
1968 505" EFI 4-speed
1968 D200 Camper Special, 318/2bbl/4spd/4.10
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Torque converters are for construction equipment.

djcarguy

 :2thumbs: is block wall for fire code,because of how close to fence or other house??  you say work area ,that will be great  to have seperate work area. allbest ta ya

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hemi68charger

Quote from: djcarguy on November 18, 2011, 10:30:15 AM
:2thumbs: is block wall for fire code,because of how close to fence or other house??  you say work area ,that will be great  to have separate work area. allbest ta ya

All the homes in South Florida USED to be built with cinder blocks... I remember growing up and living in a house like that. Then, not sure what happen, coding, politicians, Snow-birds building; but homes went to frame....  :flame:  Don't hold up to hurricanes very well.
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41husk

I wonder how much more it cost to build a block building?
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elacruze

Quote from: 41husk on November 18, 2011, 10:42:28 AM
I wonder how much more it cost to build a block building?

the cost difference is insignificant, at least down here. I had it quoted both ways just to find out, but never considered using wood.
1968 505" EFI 4-speed
1968 D200 Camper Special, 318/2bbl/4spd/4.10
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Torque converters are for construction equipment.

chargd72

Epoxy for sure.  Bro-in-law has it in his garage.  Cleaning spills is as easy as hosing it off.

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bobs66440

Epoxy. Just make sure you get the best quality and it's applied properly. I painted my floor and it wasn't long before it was coming up in sheets!

Don't forget the footings for the lift!  :2thumbs:

Patronus

I would put a down-draft booth into there  :yesnod:
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:coolgleamA:  looking good  :yesnod:

Quote from: Patronus on November 18, 2011, 06:19:32 PM
I would be put a down-draft booth into there  :yesnod:

:coolgleamA:  good idea  ;D :yesnod: :paintingpink:
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Quote from: bobs66440 on November 18, 2011, 02:54:44 PM
Epoxy. Just make sure you get the best quality and it's applied properly. I painted my floor and it wasn't long before it was coming up in sheets!

Don't forget the footings for the lift!  :2thumbs:

Looks like the floor is already poured. I vote for epoxy also. I used Behr two part. Primed first, then one coat of finish. Was the cheapest way out at the time. It has held up surprisingly well considering the amount of thrashing I do in the shop. It is starting to wear out.I'll need to re-coat next year.
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elacruze

1968 505" EFI 4-speed
1968 D200 Camper Special, 318/2bbl/4spd/4.10
---
Torque converters are for construction equipment.

68blue

Retired from the paint industry I can say that a lot of the issues with epoxy peel up are related to prep, application temp, and parking on it before it's cured. Epoxy can be dry to walk on but if you set something on it, like a car, the area where the tires contact the floor can block full cure causing peel up later. Wait a week with ambient temps above 50 before setting stuff on it.   

jb666

Another vote for Epoxy. I took the time , 3 years ago, and did mine myself. It still looks like the day I put it down and NOTHING sticks to it...  :2thumbs:

The key is all in the prep.

Darkman

Can anyone spot the face made from cinderblocks? Looks like it's wearing a hat!
Make it idiot proof, and somebody will make a better idiot!

If you think Education is difficult, try being stupid!

ACUDANUT

 Whats wrong with just a smooth concrete floor ? It beats a rock or dirt floor. :shruggy:

stripedelete

Quote from: Darkman on November 21, 2011, 07:48:36 PM
Can anyone spot the face made from cinderblocks? Looks like it's wearing a hat!
Ha!  You're right.

elacruze

Quote from: ACUDANUT on November 21, 2011, 08:02:11 PM
Whats wrong with just a smooth concrete floor ? It beats a rock or dirt floor. :shruggy:

What's wrong with a Chevette? It beats a horse and buggy or bicycle.  :shruggy: j/k ;)
1968 505" EFI 4-speed
1968 D200 Camper Special, 318/2bbl/4spd/4.10
---
Torque converters are for construction equipment.

ACUDANUT

 Sorry, I don't get it. :Twocents:

Aero426

Seal the concrete and be done with it.    You could even stain it if you want a nicer look.   I'd do either of those before I'd lay down a consumer grade epoxy paint product.  

twodko

It's just about a nice clean looking garage/shop. Easier to keep clean, looks good and adds a spot of value to the space. We make these cars look beautiful again, kind of deserving considering all the work we put into them.  If you have the time and cash why not? :Twocents:
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elacruze

Quote from: Aero426 on November 21, 2011, 08:27:16 PM
Seal the concrete and be done with it.    You could even stain it if you want a nicer look.   I'd do either of those before I'd lay down a consumer grade epoxy paint product.  

Why qualify that with 'consumer grade'?

I don't usually cheap out if there is a better product, particularly with something I have to live with forever.
1968 505" EFI 4-speed
1968 D200 Camper Special, 318/2bbl/4spd/4.10
---
Torque converters are for construction equipment.

elacruze

Quote from: ACUDANUT on November 21, 2011, 08:08:47 PM
Sorry, I don't get it. :Twocents:

Smooth concrete is nice-for a while. Even if you maintain and clean it, eventually it looks like crap and then you can't put a coating on  it due to contamination.

Why have plain when you can have something that looks nice and cleans easily?
1968 505" EFI 4-speed
1968 D200 Camper Special, 318/2bbl/4spd/4.10
---
Torque converters are for construction equipment.

meepmeep70

by no means expert,but isn't there a certain amount of time needed that the concrete is putting out moisture,so you have to wait to coat/seal? just putting it out there :Twocents:

Darkman

Ideally you would like to give concrete 28 days to cure fully
Make it idiot proof, and somebody will make a better idiot!

If you think Education is difficult, try being stupid!

elacruze

Moving right along...

Somebody got the wall wrong, the winders are supposed to be high enough that you can't look in from outside, so I got a poured tie-beam for free!
1968 505" EFI 4-speed
1968 D200 Camper Special, 318/2bbl/4spd/4.10
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Torque converters are for construction equipment.

elacruze

Didn't realize I'd fallen behind. I'll take current photos tomorrow.

1968 505" EFI 4-speed
1968 D200 Camper Special, 318/2bbl/4spd/4.10
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Torque converters are for construction equipment.

Fred

I can see there's plenty of height for a hoist. Are you planning on one?


Tomorrow is promised to no one.......drive your Charger today.

elacruze

Quote from: Fred on December 29, 2011, 07:57:15 PM
I can see there's plenty of height for a hoist. Are you planning on one?

Yes, but not immediately.
1968 505" EFI 4-speed
1968 D200 Camper Special, 318/2bbl/4spd/4.10
---
Torque converters are for construction equipment.

Fred

Quote from: elacruze on December 29, 2011, 08:49:32 PM
Quote from: Fred on December 29, 2011, 07:57:15 PM
I can see there's plenty of height for a hoist. Are you planning on one?

Yes, but not immediately.

Made a big mistake not thinking about a hoist when I built my second garage. Something I will always regret.


Tomorrow is promised to no one.......drive your Charger today.

RIDELIKEHELL

Awesome! I'd love to have that climate here right now! Weather is slowing things down again :'(

:cheers: Man!
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elacruze

Latest-Stucco finished, electrician comes tomorrow.

1968 505" EFI 4-speed
1968 D200 Camper Special, 318/2bbl/4spd/4.10
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Torque converters are for construction equipment.

Steve P.

Is there enough ceiling height for a lift?? It looks like the peek is only 11 feet or so..  :scratchchin:
Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

elacruze

Quote from: Steve P. on January 10, 2012, 05:01:58 PM
Is there enough ceiling height for a lift?? It looks like the peek is only 11 feet or so..  :scratchchin:

The peak is 11', so if I put a lift in I'll have about 5' under the car...not perfect but I couldn't go 15'.
1968 505" EFI 4-speed
1968 D200 Camper Special, 318/2bbl/4spd/4.10
---
Torque converters are for construction equipment.

Steve P.

You'll need a comfortable chair on wheels to sit in while working under the car.. hahaha.. Hey, what ever works!!!    ;)
Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

nvrbdn

the garage is lookin great. :2thumbs:
70 Dodge Charger 500
70 Duster (Moulin Rouge)
73 Challenger
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twodko

The finish is really nice looking. Is it stucco......exterior plaster? It should be nice and cool in there too using masonry construction. Good stuff.
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472 R/T SE

Is there a limit between your home & the property line?  Up here it's 5', & they stack 'em on top of each other at that.

Lookin' good man.  I'm envious.  I could hook you up on that chair with wheels.  That height would be perfect for me.   ;)

elacruze

Stucco, yes concrete paste over block. Impact rated windows and Dade County spec doors-all required. I put the windows up high so any ...unauthorized... passersby can't just look in, and they don't open, for security. Plus being high they'll add light when the power is out lol. I don't know when or if I'll get a lift, but I'll have shelf space high enough not to interfere with getting the car inside.
I'll insulate the roof with Styro/alum.
1968 505" EFI 4-speed
1968 D200 Camper Special, 318/2bbl/4spd/4.10
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Torque converters are for construction equipment.

Steve P.

Many insulation companies bought and built special trucks for spraying FOAM INSULATION during the building boom. Now these trucks are sitting eating money. I would call around and see what kind of deal they will make to spray it. NOTHING insulates like foam. It closes EVERY LITTLE NITCH AND GAP...   :2thumbs:
Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

elacruze

Quote from: Steve P. on January 10, 2012, 11:55:23 PM
Many insulation companies bought and built special trucks for spraying FOAM INSULATION during the building boom. Now these trucks are sitting eating money. I would call around and see what kind of deal they will make to spray it. NOTHING insulates like foam. It closes EVERY LITTLE NITCH AND GAP...   :2thumbs:

oh, but it's so ugly! Actually the builder suggested that-if I was enclosing the trusses I would, but I'm not sure. TBA.
1968 505" EFI 4-speed
1968 D200 Camper Special, 318/2bbl/4spd/4.10
---
Torque converters are for construction equipment.

RIDELIKEHELL

Nice work! looking good! :cheers:
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Steve P.

Not really.. That depends on if it is finished or not.. Atic of the house, not much need. A space that will be finished with drywall or other board, they shave it clean with the wood of your trusses. Flat and nice.... Same as they do all walls... Another fantastic thing it does is quiets everything way down. (Air compressor, air tools, music etc. )  Keeps the complaints down too..   ;)

PLUS, in Florida it is a bug benefit because they consider the foam another fastener for your roof. Your insurance will be less.. Lots of benefit to using it. For me, the biggest reason is comfort.... If I am too hot or cold I am DONE!!
Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

elacruze

Been a long time...garage is finished, and today I got the shelving up. Took a long time to find shelving heavy enough for a garage that didn't take up floor space. I'll include info with photos.

I found these online;

http://johnsterling.com/dualtrak.html

To find the 'heavyweight' stuff you have to look in their .pdf pricelist. All their stuff is available at Home Depot, the heavyweight by special order. HD retailed the stuff at about 4/5ths of the manufacturer's list price.
1968 505" EFI 4-speed
1968 D200 Camper Special, 318/2bbl/4spd/4.10
---
Torque converters are for construction equipment.

elacruze

These are the wall standards. How this works is you mount the hangtrack from the top, and the standards hang from it with the option to screw to the wall, which I did. You could do this with less expense by eliminating the hangtrack.
1968 505" EFI 4-speed
1968 D200 Camper Special, 318/2bbl/4spd/4.10
---
Torque converters are for construction equipment.

elacruze

Hangtrack chalklined and tapconned.
1968 505" EFI 4-speed
1968 D200 Camper Special, 318/2bbl/4spd/4.10
---
Torque converters are for construction equipment.

elacruze

UP!

Can't hit my head, strong enough to put engine blocks on (but I won't). I used 3/4" White Oak plywood for the shelving.

The entire project cost me a tad more than $500 including all the hardware, wood, tapcons etc.
1968 505" EFI 4-speed
1968 D200 Camper Special, 318/2bbl/4spd/4.10
---
Torque converters are for construction equipment.

twodko

Hey hey hey!
Wondering where you went......I figured maybe the big sand box. Garage is great, congrats! Good to hear from ya.

Tom
FLY NAVY/Marine Corps or take the bus!

c00nhunterjoe

its not a garage until there is a car parked in it.  :popcrn:

elacruze

Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on July 20, 2012, 07:05:57 PM
its not a garage until there is a car parked in it.  :popcrn:

:/

yeah working on the kid's motorcycle in there at the moment...tomorrow.
1968 505" EFI 4-speed
1968 D200 Camper Special, 318/2bbl/4spd/4.10
---
Torque converters are for construction equipment.

nvrbdn

sweet storage shelfing. :2thumbs: whats the weight capacity of those?
70 Dodge Charger 500
70 Duster (Moulin Rouge)
73 Challenger
50 Dodge Pilot House

RIDELIKEHELL

I'm on holidays next week and the shelving is my next step and that stuff looks pretty sweet....... :scratchchin: Great looking garage man :2thumbs:
AMD POSTER BOY

1968 CHARGER R/T  http://www.youtube.com/user/ridelikehell73

elacruze

Quote from: nvrbdn on July 22, 2012, 09:02:48 PM
sweet storage shelfing. :2thumbs: whats the weight capacity of those?

The long brackets with the support are good for 500 pounds each! So it says on the tag. If you used all the holes in the wall standards to fasten them, I have no doubt it would support it. With the standards close enough together you could store an engine up there.
1968 505" EFI 4-speed
1968 D200 Camper Special, 318/2bbl/4spd/4.10
---
Torque converters are for construction equipment.

elacruze

Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on July 20, 2012, 07:05:57 PM
its not a garage until there is a car parked in it.  :popcrn:

1968 505" EFI 4-speed
1968 D200 Camper Special, 318/2bbl/4spd/4.10
---
Torque converters are for construction equipment.

67440chrg

Great job on your garage.It looks like it could stand through anything. I want the truck parked in front of it. I just bought 5 acres and will start a building soon. It is all steel or wood frame here.