Not going to impress Mopar fans.

[67440chrg]

To me I think he has took what could be a nice car and made it less desirable. He would do better with his sale with out the smart comment.
On EBay #260894160721 a 74 duster some one put a 355 sbc in.He said it could be put back Mopar if you want to make it slow. Does it bother you to see Mopars with other power plants? I see AMCs with sbc engines allot and would not buy one unless it was cheap enough to go back Mopar. Sorry for no link not great at adding them yet.

[vancamp]

never have cared for cross breeding brands.

[TruckDriver]

Here's the link to the car   I dont care for cross breeds either 

1974 Plymouth Duster Link

[adauto]

Crossbreeds suck, there's a few that run around here. And they all got bowties.

[Cooter]

Ooooooh. "you Mopar fanatics is can be converted back to a mopar engine if you want to slow the car down!!!! "  Hmmmmmm, Sledgehammer? Jason is it?

[adauto]

JASON is the man, he knows how to build some fast $hit! That Dart of his is one wicked machine (IMO). 

[greenpigs]

  Not just Mopar either but any make needs to have a brand specific motor in it. Sure I know some Oldsmobile & Pontiac had SB chevy motors & Buick V6 & other factory combinations of bastards. If your building a "Hot Rod" to me it needs a motor from whatever brand the car is.

[RallyeMike]

You can blow up two 355 Chevy's for every Mopar engine and still come out $ ahead, so it makes some sense if you can get over the breed loyalty. I think it's fine if makes other people happy. To me, that car would just be a project to put a 360 or 440 into, and sell the Chevy plant.

[Fred]

Never been a fan of crossbreeds. 

[Ghoste]

A great looking body that could be made much faster by putting a Mopar engine in.  Not a crossbreed fan here either.

[1970Moparmann]

A great looking body that could be made much faster by putting a Mopar engine in.  Not a crossbreed fan here either.

AGREE!   

[68X426]

Hell I have a problem when a Dodge motor is put in a Plymouth. 

So don't even ask me about brand x.

[NYCMille]

It's a tough call actually... I'll be honest, I've been thinking about building another car and it will be a Mopar - HOWEVER - it will literally cost me half the money to power it with a new LS motor and then the a new style HEMI. Not sure which way to go yet, but I'm just saying... 

[miller]

It really depends on what is being cross breed.... a 1969 Charger with a sbc... no, a 1908 American LaFrance car with a 46 liter BMW Airplane engine... yes please!

Vid of this awesomeness....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLyYYazGlx0

[Troy]

While I am strongly opposed to "hacking up" anything rare/historical... I think brand loyalty (much like fanaticism in sports) is a joke. The first hot rodders used whatever was cheapest, fastest, or most reliable (sometimes all of the above) to bring their imagination to reality. I like engine swaps. I'd prefer to stay with the same brand but I won't limit myself to it. If something else allows all the goals to be met (cost, speed, reliability, whatever) then I say go for it! If the factory never built what you dream of then how else are you supposed to make it happen?

Race cars are supposed to win. If the owner/mechanic has a formula to do that then that is what they should do. Now, if they lose every race it could be a sign of poor decision making skills.

Sometimes people use whatever they have to make something unique. I have some street rod friends who sit around and dream up combinations based on whatever cars are in the yard at the time. The amount of skill and knowledge it takes to create a one-off vehicle (not a cookie-cutter "kit") is mind boggling.

Besides, it's a 74 Duster - what else would you use it for? Once you gut and mangle it to make a race car does it really matter?

Troy

[NYCMille]

I totally agree... and you're right on track Troy. How awesome would a wicked little A-body be with a high revving, big power aluminum small block that puts out 600 hp. Stuff in the right suspension, wheels, tires and brakes and you'd have one wicked little performance car.

[BlueSS454]

I'm not a fan of crossbreeding something rare and/or desirable or a numbers matching car, however on a nothing car...whynot?
I'd love to put a Hemi in a Chevelle just to do it for the shock value/reaction  .  The problem is, I can't afford to do it.  My dad and I talked about it years ago.  There is gobs of room under the hood.  The biggest issue is fabricating the engine mounts and making sure you get the proper pinion angle so it doesn't vibrate.  I know there is a way to mate the GM TH400 to a Chrysler block.

[Mike DC]

   
Are we hot-rodders or classic car restorers?  This subject brings up the difference.


I would be a lot more willing to say "keep it original" if you could get the same stuff for Mopar that you can get for other brands.  Streetable aluminum smallblocks, cheap used overdrive auto trannies that bolt up to our big blocks, lightweight alloy steering boxes/racks, etc.

[tan top]

You can blow up two 355 Chevy's for every Mopar engine and still come out $ ahead, so it makes some sense if you can get over the breed loyalty. I think it's fine if makes other people happy. To me, that car would just be a project to put a 360 or 440 into, and sell the Chevy plant.

thats true  !! 

[moparstuart]

  if you want to be cheap , then buy a chevy ,   

        Any time i see a car at a car show and the drive train is a different manufacture i just lose any respect for the car       shake my head and walk away  . 

[maxwellwedge]

If you want cheap - put a Hamster and a pound of cheese under the hood.

Us Mopar guys have always been the underdogs. The cool part of that is keeping it all Mopar and showing up the others.

[67440chrg]

The only crossbreeding I don't mind to much is a Plymouth or Dodge engine in a AMC. There are not many AMC engines out there to be had. I saw a Gremlin with a 440 ones it was a cool little car.

[Tilar]

Doesn't look bad for a neutered Duster.

[TruckDriver]

The only crossbreeding I don't mind to much is a Plymouth or Dodge engine in a AMC. There are not many AMC engines out there to be had. I saw a Gremlin with a 440 ones it was a cool little car.

Well, AMC used Chrysler & GM transmisions, Ford ignitions (I believe some Mopar too), and misc other multi car make things to built their cars. AMC even had a 327 for the Jeep Wagoneer's that I believe was built by GM. I'm not a 100% on that, so if someone knows for sure, let me know. 

[vancamp]

Doesn't look bad for a neutered Duster.

[Darkman]

   
Are we hot-rodders or classic car restorers?  This subject brings up the difference.

Why couldn't you be both? There are more and more cars with modifications on them nowadays, that the true "restorations" are left to the folks with really fat wallets.

As was said, hot rodders used anything and everything available. Drag racers do the same to an extent. They try to get the most amount of horsepower as cheaply as possible. These engines are rebuilt completely after a couple of runs so why not use something readily available and cheaper

I personally wouldn't do it unless it was to achieve what I want with my build. The build I am doing is a cruiser/driver with attitude, and nothing shows more attitude than a big block Mopar.

[Memphis Mopar]

Whne I get done with my charger project I want to do a 69 camaro with a Hemi. License plate reads CHEMI 

[moparstuart]

street rodders are the worst  , they spend all that time and money on building flawless cars and then throw a cheapo 350 chevy motor in them .

   I was drooling over these two beautyful chryslers and then     when i saw the 350 motors in them both .

[moparstuart]

    when they could have dont this   all mopar

[daveco]

It occasionally goes the other way, big block mopar in a '60s ford truck was a popular swap back in the day. I've seen a 440 powered Malibu R/T.

This is the only photo of the Malibu I could find, Woodburn (Oregon) around 1981.

[67440chrg]

Its back but with no mention off the brand x power plant or any smart remarks.

[greenpigs]

Guess wonder dummy figured out he was ticking off 98.7% of the potential buyers.

He would be better off selling the powertrain separately then selling the car as a roller.

[1970Moparmann]

He dropped the price by $4k also. 

I bet his Ebay message box was filled up!

[b5blue]

I had an FJ-40 Land-cruiser by Toyota in the 70's. Back then a common swap was to use a SB Chevy, making it a "Toy-let".  They make an adapter set to install SB Chevy into my Jeep Cherokee....I could NEVER do it. (Now a SB Mopar I am thinking of.... )

[jb666]

There's a local with a '71 Duster and a crazy built SBC under the hood.. He gets to hit the track on Mopar Day AND Super Chevy Day.. He's got the best of both worlds 

When asked why he went with a SBC... his response is always the same "Saved a TON of $$ and it's reliable"  , that wins the heart of fans every time.

[Chryco Psycho]

I thought there was rule that anything before the 50s Had to have a small block chev in it 

[Cooter]

I read an article somewhere about a '67-'68 Camaro with a 2JZ import 6 cylinder, turbo'd. Made something like 850 HP and was fairly reliable. When asked why, the gent replied: "It makes this kind of power all day long, gets 24 MPG highway, and it woulda taken alot more $$$ to get a 555 C.I. BBC where this one is."

[Rolling_Thunder]

it is what it is...    it was built to be cheap but he seems to think it's made of gold...         I dont personally care about cross breeding engines and cars - as long as it makes sense...     How many guys have put hemis into old model Ts ?  who complains then?    That isnt even a duster anymore IMO - its a tube frame, race interior, aftermarket this and that...     who really cares?    The owner is just some checy guy who wanted something different...       

I'll put it this way -  if it is a caged car and uses engine plates to mount it - who cares what engine it is? 


I have a Tremec trans behind me hemi...    it's from a O.E. Ford / GM application.    Guys who put 4L65Es from Keisler behind their big blocks say they are awesome...    so crossbreeding doesn't bother me unless it makes no sense.     

[Budnicks]

  I don't care for cross breeds either... Even in the Street Rods I don't really care for all the SBC's in every 32 Ford type deal, but I do like seeing a Hemi in a Early Ford or what ever...LOL... Maybe because it's much more rare to see that combo... But now after saying that... To each their own, do what makes you happy, unless it's a rare car then don't do it at all... Here's a hybrid you may like, it's not mine...

[Cooter]

What was that song by Bruce "The Boss" Springsteen? "Ram Rod"?

Lyrics went something like dis....

"She's a hot steppin' Hemi with a 4 on the floor"
"She's a roadrunner engine in a '32 Ford"..
"Well, late at n ight when I'm dead on the line"..
"I swear I think of your pretty face when I let her unwind"..


IT would seem that the newest "Bandwagon"/"Me too" Engine of choice just so happens to be a 5.7 Liter Hemi in every f*ckin' thing ever concieved.
5.7 SBC or 5.7 SBC(hrysler) Coincidence? I think not...

[usdodge]

It always seemed you couldn't find the aftermarket part for mopars that you could find for the ovals and the bowties in the older days. The mopars for the most part were faster right outta the box. The aftermarket part manufactures were just trying to help the slower cars even up the score. You really didn't need a ton of money to whip there ass again in two or three weeks. All you had to do was go down to the dealership (dodge or plymouth) pick up the Direct Connection manual, now called mopar performance(written by Pentastar Engineers and part of the RamChargers racing team) go home read it , take your engine apart and hog out the heads and intake, like they show and say in the book, put it back together and whip their asses again. All on factory parts. My case in point, my Road Runner. It has different pistons, and an aftermarket intake, with a different carb, in and on the 440. Makes 750 hp at the rear wheels, and runs 9.20 consistantly. Not a lot of dough in it.   And no Bottle Baby, or trailer queen

[Budnicks]

  I think this would look great in a street rod too... Preferably a 34 Plymouth...