Seatbelts

[Darkman]

I require some assistance.

I am trying to decide on a seatbelt setup for my 68 Charger. I want to have the retractable "3 Point" seatbelt at the front (like the XV Setup). I have read/seen that some of you guys have used that system. My Charger has the roof mounting point so I won't have to "reinforce" or change anything for that.

The rear is fine as I will be installing 3 "3 point retractable" belts and they can be tucked into the seats nicely and won't be so visible.

My concern is the look of a seatbelt on a 2 door pillarless car when both windows are down. Does it defeat the purpose of having a "pillarless" car then? Does it look "strange"?

Those of you that have this system, could you please post up some photos of the outside of the car with the windows down so I can see what it looks like? Thanks in advance

[Fred]

Here you go Darkman, hope this helps.
I'm very happy with mine. They feel great and work well.

[Fred]

I did have to move the bottom anchor point as pictured to make it easier to climb in the back.
And also to enable the front seat to slide back all the way.

[Darkman]

Thanks Fred!

[charger Downunder]

Here ya go Darkman
Klippan brand of belt used.
Front k7654 k7655 Retractor angle 75-90 On pillar plus two drop links K7099.
Rear sides  two k5186 180-180 under parcel shelf centre belt k1637

[bobs66440]

Nice work on the rear sets! I did a similar set up on a '70 Mustang and it worked great.

[Darkman]

It just gets better and better!

That is exactly what I was after

[Darkman]

Well the rear seats are no problems.

It's the front belts that are going to give me greif. I think the 3 point seatbelt (as the Aussie guys have posted) affects the "pillarless" look. So my otions are to:

1 - install racing type seats with harness attached to the floor behind the seat (I was planning on these types of seats anyway)

2 - find seats that have integrated retractable seats that fold forward

3 - modify and engineer an anchor point in the body of the car (and install the setup that Charger Downunder has in the rear)

4 - go with lap belts (which I want to avoid for safety reasons)

Let me know your thoughts

[Fred]

I don't mind how mine look because the back windows are always up anyway as no one sits in the back.
And with the back windows up they're not nearly so conspicuous. Barely notice them.

[318duster]

Here ya go Darkman
Klippan brand of belt used.
Front k7654 k7655 Retractor angle 75-90 On pillar plus two drop links K7099.
Rear sides  two k5186 180-180 under parcel shelf centre belt k1637

Great job on the rear shoulder belts. Im looking to do the same for my Duster. Where did you get the under parcel shelf mount belts? Anything I google about Klippan comes up located in Australia. Any help for an American or Canadian dealer is most appreciated.

Thanks

[charger Downunder]

You must have belt places that produce them to your countries standard. You may have to ring around.

[318duster]

Thank you.

[440]

I hate the look of retractable belts on a Charger. Mine look exactly like ChargerDownunder except my belts are tan, it's not as bad with a black interior though. I thought about swapping the front belts out with black ones just so you don't see a tan belt hanging down.  Stupid Australian belt regulations

[Ghoste]

Me too, there's something out of place looking about them. 

[Fred]

As mentioned at the beginning of this thread, I don't have a problem with it.
It is what it is.
But they work really well and they're extremely comfortable   

[JB400]

Shoulder straps makes it kinda look like it has a cage in it.

[FLG]

Well the rear seats are no problems.

It's the front belts that are going to give me greif. I think the 3 point seatbelt (as the Aussie guys have posted) affects the "pillarless" look. So my otions are to:

1 - install racing type seats with harness attached to the floor behind the seat (I was planning on these types of seats anyway)

2 - find seats that have integrated retractable seats that fold forward

3 - modify and engineer an anchor point in the body of the car (and install the setup that Charger Downunder has in the rear)

4 - go with lap belts (which I want to avoid for safety reasons)

Let me know your thoughts

Either 2 or 3

Option 1 is just as bad as option 4.

For one, you never want to attach safety harnesses at that steep of an angle. In an accident they can now compress your spine and cause even more damage. Secondly, you dont want to use a harness without a roll bar or cage. In a roll over your 3 point system allows you some movement, so if the roof comes down on you your not going to be crushed. Harnesses without a roll bar will keep you in your seat and basically besides your arms and legs all you can move is your head, in a rollover if the roof is coming down on you, youll no longer have anywhere to go.

If your serious about racing seats and a harness, get a roll bar or scrap the idea. And if you are serious go with 6 point, ive got 6 in the race car and have driven with people with 5....your manhood will appreciate the 6 point.

Example

[charger Downunder]

As mentioned at the beginning of this thread, I don't have a problem with it.
It is what it is.
But they work really well and they're extremely comfortable    




With the drop link no more belt cutting into the side of your neck and that feels good.

[Fred]

As mentioned at the beginning of this thread, I don't have a problem with it.
It is what it is.
But they work really well and they're extremely comfortable   

With the drop link no more belt cutting into the side of your neck and that feels good.