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...long time winged car owners

Started by 69 DAYTONA, November 09, 2011, 10:22:36 PM

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69 DAYTONA

...the attraction to winged cars puzzles me...I bought my 1st one 31 years ago and have rarely been without one since...what is it about winged cars that makes them so difficult to part with...they aren't really pretty, they aren't any faster, what is it that makes them so desireable...why are there so many owners that have had their cars for decades

...whats your reason ?

pix...1983

Aero426

Larry, I would say for me that the race mystique has always played a big part of my attraction to the cars.   Also, there are few other cars that generate the shock value of a wing car.    I'd put a Ford retractable in the same catagory.  It will always draw a crowd, not that I have to have that, but it's nice to be noticed.    Aside from a wing car and the other Ford aero cars, there really are not a lot of other cars I desire to own.     Sure, there are other conventional cars I'd enjoy,  but not replace the wing car.    The aero cars were a one time shot really never to be repeated.

As far as looks go, the right Daytona or Superbird with the right stance is a thing of beauty to me.  

RECHRGD

I'm not a wing car owner and until recently was not a big fan.  The rarity of these cars is the driving force to the value and popularity of them.  Back when they were on the car lots, they (in general) were considered butt ugly and very hard to sell.  Yes, the racing heritage is the force behind the current and future allure to them.   I had the opportunity this year to join a wing car get together at Indy and fell into the historic attraction to them.  They are a great part of American automotive history and are now being recognized for that.  Although I still think my '68 Charger is a better looking car, I sure wouldn't kick a wing car out of my garage, maybe even trade it for one (plus some coin).   Bob
13.53 @ 105.32

nascarxx29

I got hooked my neighbor had a superbird when I was around 12
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

held1823

i guess i'd be considered a wing car heir. i prefer the overall styling of a coronet to that of a regular charger, in large part due to the cool hood and convertible options available on coronet models. its pretty hard to beat an A12 super bee in the "looking fast while sitting still" category, but the wing cars do exactly that. The head-on view of larry's old F6 car above, is automobile nirvana to me. how can you not call that face beautiful? (not larry's, although his porn 'stach is kinda cool.) i grew up around that very car, as it belonged to my childhood barber when brand new. this small town had both the F6 car above and my parents B5 daytona. i was just shy of five years old, and still recall the day they bought the daytona, which has been a member of our family since september of 1969. There was at least one Superbird bought new here, and several "used car" daytonas and superbirds, so seeing a wing car on the streets around town was not at all uncommon.  

i was born and raised in the mopar camp and have had some nice ones in the past, those being a 1968 coronet r/t convertible, 1969 gtx, and 1970 super bee. this town once made car craft magazine's list of top 10 cruising spots in the nation, and some serious muscle roamed the local streets. i certainly had the iron to fit in with the attention getters, yet find it amazing that i would often ask mom for her keys to the daytona, come friday night. THAT, speaks volumes for the allure of a wing car. marriage, two kids, divorce, and career changes have all came and gone, but one constant is my absolute love affair with wing cars.

my own wing car attraction has nothing to do with the rarity or value of the car. i couldnt begin to count the times over the last forty years that someone has tried to buy the car. it amuses me when people comment about a car being left to sit, rather than being sold to someone with an appreciation for what it is. bringing up the monetary value is the quickest way to cast doubt on a true "appreciation" of these cars. most long term owners have held on to the cars with little regard to their value. i could be debt free simply by selling the car, but how could i ever replace something that has been in my life, for nearly all of my life? more than one member of this forum has often mentioned their desire to "find a wing car like the one that dad used to own". what could top being able to walk out to the barn, to accomplish exactly that?
Ernie Helderbrand
XX29L9B409053

69 DAYTONA

...I find myself entranced in the historical facts of these cars unlike any other...can't learn enough about them...I'm always amazed at how many people I know with a winged car that have owned it forever and ever...others may come and go, but the winged cars seem to hang around

...for me, this forum has been sort of like a time machine, old pix, old friends, familiar faces and pix of cars I remember from 20-30 years ago..some things never change

...personally, I do like the looks, Daytona over Superbird

TiMopar

I have wanted a Daytona since I was about 12, when I saw the Big Willie American Racing wheels advert, and I didn't even know what it was. For me it has nothing to do with value or rarity, it's just the Shark-like shape. Being in England, they weren't around to buy and have always been worth more money than I had. I have had the opportunity to buy a couple of Birds, and as much as I like them, it just wasn't a Daytona. Not ever likely to own one now, but feel fortunate to have what I have and to have owned Mopars when they were not 'valuable' and too precious to use as intended.

41husk

I have been in love with the wing cars since they came out.  I own a nice replica, but still hope some day to be a real XX owner.  I will say being around the few winged car events that I have, the owners are not nose in the air better than non owner people.  I think that is the perception of many people.  Infact, you are some of the most helpful in the hobby and I thank you!  I have learned so much in just the last couple of years.
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

FJ5WING

 the value has nothing to do with why I own a wing car. When I was single digits young a neighbor across the street had a White or light Yellow Daytona because I remember the Black wing and no vinyl top. Then we moved out of the city and I was attending vocational school and would ride past two wing cars parked behind a gas station on the bus ride between tech school and conventional school. I would always dream of driving one of those cars.

Once I began driving and had the money for a car the wing cars were forgotten as my brother had turned me Ford. several years later when I weary of always seeing "other" Mustangs I talked with a Mopar buddy who mentioned that I should get a Superbird if I didnt want to see my cars twin on every corner.(IF only he said Hemi Daytona :brickwall:)
so there you have it, I was now wing car shopping and within a few short months I was rowing a pistol grip and opening up barrels by the six-pac. :icon_smile_wink:
I guess the rarity makes it why I desired one but not because I wanted an investment, I was 20 years old and had no idea what an investment was.  :smilielol: kinda happy that Im in for under 10K but this restoration is putting a dent in that bonus. :P
wingless now, but still around.

Dave Kanofsky

Does 14 years qualify me as a long time wing car owner?  
If it does, then it was the engineering that pulled me into Wing Cars.  

I agree with Doug, "As far as looks go, the right Daytona or Superbird with the right stance is a thing of beauty to me."  That's why mine always have bigger tires and a little extra lift in the springs.
"God sent his Son into the world not to judge the world, but to save the world through him." John 3:17, NLT

Racers For Christ Chaplain (www.teamrfc.org)

hemi68charger

Quote from: 69 DAYTONA on November 09, 2011, 10:22:36 PM
...they aren't really pretty, they aren't any faster,,,

I agree, they aren't any prettier....... That would be like calling Buddy Baker or Dale Earnhardt cute.......  They are just mean-looking. A Charger by itself, sitting there, whether it be with a 318 or Hemi, looks like it's hauling butt...

Now, but a nose and wing on it!!!  OH Lordy, that's one mean-lookin'-muther...  Plus, my Dad had one new and I remember it....

That's me.
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

dreamcatcher

I guess I am not really a long time owner (just about 4 years).But Christine will never leave while I still draw a breath.Mine of coarse is just a tribute car.But I wanted something I could  drive and enjoy with out too much worry.It is really my first mopar.I like cars that stand alone...like fords boss cars.Dare to be different.So when I wanted to try a mopar..I figured...go for the gusto.And really...I like the lines of the car.I guess it is a love it or hate it body style and I love it.Although I still think the most beautiful car ever built is a 68 charger R/T...but I don't have one  :'( .....yet!
1970 Superbird Tribute 440 auto
1968 Charger 426 6 pack auto
1971 Chevelle SS Tribute 350 4 speed
1970 Mustang 351 C 4 speed
1969 GTO 400 Ram air III 4 speed
1972 Charger (soon 5.7 hemi auto)
1973 Charger 440 auto (U code)
If you've never been scared (even a little) then you've never gone as fast as you could have!

moparstuart

As a youth my brother wanted a super bird really bad , In 76 he got his license and had three 70 road runner in his first year of driving .  He looked at a lime green bird to buy but couldnt not arrange for the financing .  He still loved and admiried them his whole life  .  In 84 when i turned 16 the mopar fever had rubbed off on me .  I bought a 70 charger R/T and joined a brand new Mopar club in the kansas city area .  Just so happened the club president had Three super birds and his son also had one .  I would go over to the club presidents house many times after school to just talk and drool over his superbirds .  This gentlemen became my addopted mopar father and was a great mentor to me .  I fell in love with everything about super birds ,  chased the price increases and just never had any cash to buy a real one  .  Saw a picture of a couple created convertible superbirds and knew i would build my own  .
  Have always loved the Super bird more then the daytona  , we were always a plymouth family and have always loved the superbirds more .   In 1995 i bought the real superbird parts to build my car before i even had the car  . It was a long hard haul to get the car done but now its my pride and joy and we take the car everywhere we can afford  . 


     
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

nascarxx29

 :Twocents: Another reason for early wingcar addiction reading mateial and kenner SSP superbird exposure

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

pettybird

For me?  It was just a good 'ol fashioned case of the brainwashin':






moparstuart

Quote from: pettybird on November 10, 2011, 01:40:34 PM
For me?  It was just a good 'ol fashioned case of the brainwashin':






you poor thing , and your still not right   :icon_smile_big: :nana:
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

pettybird

right!  if only they had just stuck to brainwashing me about cars!

learical1

Quote from: pettybird on November 10, 2011, 02:57:43 PM
right!  if only they had just stuck to brainwashing me about cars!

Just think.  If your uncle hadn't stuck his arm out of that elevator back in 1980, some other family may have found and adopted you and you could have turned out normal. :D :slap:
Bruce

moparstuart

Quote from: learical1 on November 10, 2011, 03:05:38 PM
Quote from: pettybird on November 10, 2011, 02:57:43 PM
right!  if only they had just stuck to brainwashing me about cars!

Just think.  If your uncle hadn't stuck his arm out of that elevator back in 1980, some other family may have found and adopted you and you could have turned out normal. :D :slap:
they could have lost him at the grand canyon  like me 
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

learical1

Quote from: moparstuart on November 10, 2011, 03:07:41 PM
Quote from: learical1 on November 10, 2011, 03:05:38 PM
Quote from: pettybird on November 10, 2011, 02:57:43 PM
right!  if only they had just stuck to brainwashing me about cars!

Just think.  If your uncle hadn't stuck his arm out of that elevator back in 1980, some other family may have found and adopted you and you could have turned out normal. :D :slap:
they could have lost him at the grand canyon  like me 

Grand Canyon, Washington DC, either way it's a bunch of empty space trying to look impressive. :smilielol:
Bruce

hemi68charger

Quote from: moparstuart on November 10, 2011, 03:07:41 PM
Quote from: learical1 on November 10, 2011, 03:05:38 PM
Quote from: pettybird on November 10, 2011, 02:57:43 PM
right!  if only they had just stuck to brainwashing me about cars!

Just think.  If your uncle hadn't stuck his arm out of that elevator back in 1980, some other family may have found and adopted you and you could have turned out normal. :D :slap:
they could have lost him at the grand canyon  like me 

Oh come on Joe Dirte, it all worked out in the end........... You got the girl and hemi..............
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

moparstuart

Quote from: hemi68charger on November 10, 2011, 03:17:06 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on November 10, 2011, 03:07:41 PM
Quote from: learical1 on November 10, 2011, 03:05:38 PM
Quote from: pettybird on November 10, 2011, 02:57:43 PM
right!  if only they had just stuck to brainwashing me about cars!

Just think.  If your uncle hadn't stuck his arm out of that elevator back in 1980, some other family may have found and adopted you and you could have turned out normal. :D :slap:
they could have lost him at the grand canyon  like me 

Oh come on Joe Dirte, it all worked out in the end........... You got the girl and hemi..............
:smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

WINGR

 That was some rare Roadrunner he had there, probably one of a kind. :smilielol:

WINGR

moparstuart

Quote from: WINGR on November 10, 2011, 04:28:55 PM
That was some rare Roadrunner he had there, probably one of a kind. :smilielol:

WINGR
one of one 67 hemi road runner   :icon_smile_big:
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

maxwellwedge

Quote from: Aero426 on November 09, 2011, 10:44:34 PM
Larry, I would say for me that the race mystique has always played a big part of my attraction to the cars.   Also, there are few other cars that generate the shock value of a wing car.    I'd put a Ford retractable in the same catagory.  It will always draw a crowd, not that I have to have that, but it's nice to be noticed.    Aside from a wing car and the other Ford aero cars, there really are not a lot of other cars I desire to own.     Sure, there are other conventional cars I'd enjoy,  but not replace the wing car.    The aero cars were a one time shot really never to be repeated.

As far as looks go, the right Daytona or Superbird with the right stance is a thing of beauty to me.  

What Doug said!   :2thumbs: