Sometimes I Wish I Liked Mustangs!

[bobs66440]

Well, I do like some Mustangs but...I just got a Mustang resto catalog in the mail (I used to have a '70) and was amazed by the prices of almost everything in there compared to Mopar stuff!! I mean, I realize a lot is made in China or wherever, but geez! $65 for a PAIR of new interior door panels??!! PAIR??!! And $115 for a new front/rear bumper? Mine are $600! Each! New interior window crank is less than $10!!  Mustang exterior rear view mirror..$17.95. My car... $125.00! C'mon now!

You can practically build an entire car from that catalog for relative pennies!

That's my main gripe with the Mopar hobby. It just seems like we pay insane amounts of cash for the same stuff others are getting for mere dollars. I realize that Mustangs are relatively plentiful and there's a larger demand, but sheesh!

Rant over...

[TK73]

When I fist got the '08 GT I picked up some Mustang parts mags and was FLOORED  .  Everything you needed for every year '64.5 to '08 at the time.

[HalfastJav]

Yeah  makes me wish i coulda kept this one........  Far cheeper than Dodge and my damn AMC 

[TK73]

Yep...

Yet another car I should have bought from you when I had the chance...   

[69bronzeT5]

That's what I love about my 5.0Ls......cheap to fix and upgrade!!!

[Fred]

My favourite Mustang is the 67 fastback (Bullitt) One day I might get one.

[greenpigs]

I kick the idea of getting a 65-67 notchback around every now & then, with a 300 /6 with a manual 5 speed for a daily driver. Yeah I know they didn't come with that powertrain but it would be enough for putting back and forth to work and get OK gas mileage.

[Dino]

I wish I like chevy for the same reason, much cheaper.  Now a nice '69 Chevelle wouldn't look bad in the driveway though...

Mopar is pretty expensive compared to the other makes, but we do have the nicest cars on the block. 

[68blue]

I would like to build up a 69 Mustang Mach1 someday. Always thought they were the best looking of the lot.

[Rolling_Thunder]

Yep - my friend picked up a 65 - been working on swapping in a 5speed i gave him to replace the worn out 3 speed...    his has the 200 I6...   should make a nice driver. 

Gotta love the prices...    I recently thought about going to the dark side and scoped out a 67 Vert Lemans - but the thing was just way too rusty...     

[RamZCharger]

I have a '65 289 with a 5 speed that I just drove from Houston to Dallas.  At 70 mph she was turning only 2000 rpms.  This was the first time I have checked mpg and I got almost 21.  After 270 miles I still had a quarter tank of gas.

And yes, parts are amazingly priced compared to my 68 Charger  .  But thank goodness for AMD nonetheless.

[Lennard]

I just got a pallet in full with sheetmetal for a '66 Fastback including two full quarterpanels from Ponyparts and the total was somewhere around $700 for everything. That's the price of one AMD Charger full quarter.

[Troy]

There were a lot more cars made and it seems like there was a lot crossover between models.

On a Mustang there may be as many as 3-4 manufacturers for any given part and the quality is all over the place. Most items have a "good-better-best" selection. You have to realize that some of the "cheap" parts are so cheap that they're nearly worthless! However, even the highest quality part is still generally cheaper than anything made for a Mopar. NOS parts are still available but I have found they there were several release dates - often with minor changes - through the years so even those aren't always "correct". Some parts still aren't available through the aftermarket for certain years/options - but that list is very short. Other than sheet metal, interior components are probably the biggest price difference from Mopars. I haven't found a set of bumpers that fits right yet. I got my Shaker (waiting to finish the motor before installation) and most sheet metal used. I bought as much NOS as I could. I think I'll still have about half as much in this car as any of my Mopars.



Troy

[chargerboy69]

I have always liked your 70 Troy. . she is one sweet Mustang. 

[Chatt69chgr]

I ordered a spring to go inside the lower radiator hose to keep it from collapsing from Virginia Classic Mustangs.  I guess I'm now on their mailing list as I got a new catalog from them the other day.  I did the same thing as previously stated.  Went through the catalog looking at the prices of everything and comparing them to what I've paid for my resto parts for my 69 Charger.  Mustang parts are dirt cheap in comparison.  Now I wouldn't trade my 69 for a Mustang but I also like the 67 Mustang used in Bullitt as well as the 69 Mach 1.  Set those up with the new Coyote engine and you would have a real nice car.

[bobs66440]

Virginia Classic Mustangs.  I guess I'm now on their mailing list as I got a new catalog from them the other day. 

Right, me too.

This is the one I had. It was a coupe, but pretty nice nonetheless..

[Cooter]

Ok, C'mon now guys, Where's the "Buy American" people NOW?! Those parts for the mopars cost so much because they weren't made overseas for $2.00/Day labor. Chinese parts are complained about constantly, yet when it's time to pay the "American" price, it's too much compared to the Chinese Ford crap parts.


They have a "kit" out now to convert the coupes from '69-'70 to fastbacks, and it costs Wait for it.........$6000.00 and it's about 6 MAJOR pieces, the rest are about 10"X12" pieces. But, it's "American made"....Chinese would be around $1200.00 for the "kit"..Sure, it wouldn't fit worth a damn, but it's cheaper...

Anybody know why a Kellogg, or Callais (Spelling?) Stroker crank cost anywhere from $2000-$3500.00??, when an "Eagle" stroker "Kit" with everything from Crank to piston rings cost what? Like $2000.00.......Overseas gentlemen...Remember this next time you are looking through the Ford Mustang Chinese parts book...

[Bobs69]

My favourite Mustang is the 67 fastback (Bullitt) One day I might get one.

I like them too.  However the new ones look enough like the old one for me.  That's why I'm glad the new Chargers are nothing like ours.

[Fred]

I wish I like chevy for the same reason, much cheaper.  Now a nice '69 Chevelle wouldn't look bad in the driveway though...

Mopar is pretty expensive compared to the other makes, but we do have the nicest cars on the block. 

[Patronus]

Eh, I had 3. 68 Fastback, 68 Coupe, 64 1/2 hardtop..
The only one I could stomach now:

[HalfastJav]

Uhh  you guys checked prices lately?  nuttins cheep no more cept cookie cutters.......

[68r/t]

Ok, C'mon now guys, Where's the "Buy American" people NOW?! Those parts for the mopars cost so much because they weren't made overseas for $2.00/Day labor. Chinese parts are complained about constantly, yet when it's time to pay the "American" price, it's too much compared to the Chinese Ford crap parts.


They have a "kit" out now to convert the coupes from '69-'70 to fastbacks, and it costs Wait for it.........$6000.00 and it's about 6 MAJOR pieces, the rest are about 10"X12" pieces. But, it's "American made"....Chinese would be around $1200.00 for the "kit"..Sure, it wouldn't fit worth a damn, but it's cheaper...

Anybody know why a Kellogg, or Callais (Spelling?) Stroker crank cost anywhere from $2000-$3500.00??, when an "Eagle" stroker "Kit" with everything from Crank to piston rings cost what? Like $2000.00.......Overseas gentlemen...Remember this next time you are looking through the Ford Mustang Chinese parts book...

So please tell which parts are Made in America for mopars,  when I,m looking through my Mopar parts book I,m sure 99% of it is made in China but we still get pumped up the backside for them, but it comes down to numbers  and there are  hell of alot more Mustangs and Camaros out there then Mopars.
I was just glad that the repo stuff was out there when I did my Charger even if I paid four times that of the brand x guys.
Man you sure do like to rant.

[Cooter]

Ok, C'mon now guys, Where's the "Buy American" people NOW?! Those parts for the mopars cost so much because they weren't made overseas for $2.00/Day labor. Chinese parts are complained about constantly, yet when it's time to pay the "American" price, it's too much compared to the Chinese Ford crap parts.


They have a "kit" out now to convert the coupes from '69-'70 to fastbacks, and it costs Wait for it.........$6000.00 and it's about 6 MAJOR pieces, the rest are about 10"X12" pieces. But, it's "American made"....Chinese would be around $1200.00 for the "kit"..Sure, it wouldn't fit worth a damn, but it's cheaper...

Anybody know why a Kellogg, or Callais (Spelling?) Stroker crank cost anywhere from $2000-$3500.00??, when an "Eagle" stroker "Kit" with everything from Crank to piston rings cost what? Like $2000.00.......Overseas gentlemen...Remember this next time you are looking through the Ford Mustang Chinese parts book...

So please tell which parts are Made in America for mopars,  when I,m looking through my Mopar parts book I,m sure 99% of it is made in China but we still get pumped up the backside for them, but it comes down to numbers  and there are  hell of alot more Mustangs and Camaros out there then Mopars.
I was just glad that the repo stuff was out there when I did my Charger even if I paid four times that of the brand x guys.
Man you sure do like to rant.

I like to whoop ass too...What's your point?  Last time I checked AMD was a US company...Just tellin' the truth. You don't like it, then that's your problem, not mine...I call it like I see it...It sure is funny how a thread can be totally neg. if EVERYBODY agrees, yet let one come in positive, OR Vise Versa, and they are singled out because they don't agree with the rest. If you offered your own opinion instead of hopping the bandwagon, you might "Rant" as well, so be careful about having an original opinion....

[68r/t]

Ok, C'mon now guys, Where's the "Buy American" people NOW?! Those parts for the mopars cost so much because they weren't made overseas for $2.00/Day labor. Chinese parts are complained about constantly, yet when it's time to pay the "American" price, it's too much compared to the Chinese Ford crap parts.


They have a "kit" out now to convert the coupes from '69-'70 to fastbacks, and it costs Wait for it.........$6000.00 and it's about 6 MAJOR pieces, the rest are about 10"X12" pieces. But, it's "American made"....Chinese would be around $1200.00 for the "kit"..Sure, it wouldn't fit worth a damn, but it's cheaper...

Anybody know why a Kellogg, or Callais (Spelling?) Stroker crank cost anywhere from $2000-$3500.00??, when an "Eagle" stroker "Kit" with everything from Crank to piston rings cost what? Like $2000.00.......Overseas gentlemen...Remember this next time you are looking through the Ford Mustang Chinese parts book...

So please tell which parts are Made in America for mopars,  when I,m looking through my Mopar parts book I,m sure 99% of it is made in China but we still get pumped up the backside for them, but it comes down to numbers  and there are  hell of alot more Mustangs and Camaros out there then Mopars.
I was just glad that the repo stuff was out there when I did my Charger even if I paid four times that of the brand x guys.
Man you sure do like to rant.

I like to whoop ass too...What's your point?  Last time I checked AMD was a US company...Just tellin' the truth. You don't like it, then that's your problem, not mine...I call it like I see it...It sure is funny how a thread can be totally neg. if EVERYBODY agrees, yet let one come in positive, OR Vise Versa, and they are singled out because they don't agree with the rest. If you offered your own opinion instead of hopping the bandwagon, you might "Rant" as well, so be careful about having an original opinion....

Where the heck do you think AMD panels are made?
My opinion stands  "your a whoop ass ranter"

[Cooter]

Where the heck do you think AMD panels are made?
My opinion stands  "your a whoop ass ranter"

Tell you what 68r/t,  and have a nice day!

[68r/t]

Where the heck do you think AMD panels are made?
My opinion stands  "your a whoop ass ranter"

Tell you what 68r/t,  :FY: and have a nice day!

Cheers, I already have

[TK73]

Took a quick look online... where are  the AMD parts made?

[Dino]

Took a quick look online... where are  the AMD parts made?

Taiwan

[TK73]

Ah, so parts made in the Republic of China are better than the parts made in the Peoples Republic of China?   

[Dino]

Ah, so parts made in the Republic of China are better than the parts made in the Peoples Republic of China?   

Well that goes without saying 

I could be wrong, and will be corrected no doubt, but I believe that the parts are stamped on US made or designed dies, making them the better part supplier. 

[Cooter]

Aside from the troll above, The point I was trying to make was the fact that while there ARE more Mustang lovers out there, there are just as many overseas companies selling cheaper parts. So cheap that the American companies don't even try..Wanna guess how much it was to get ONE Exhaust manifold into casting?? In The USA???After everybody gets there "Fair" living off the top?? Try $10K...Then, the first thing the very ones that wanted this manifold (BEGGED for it actually), did was cry and whine about the price...

[BananaDan]

The egg roll and dumplings I ate last night were made by Americans.  And they tasted good too.   

On topic, I'd dig a Mustang one day.  Of course the ones I want cost too much these days...

Bullit Fastback
GT350 Shelby
Boss 302
Mach 1

[Chatt69chgr]

I was down a Books-a-Million today browsing the magazines and saw an article saying that Ford was going to go away from the classic look for the Mustang to something newer in 2014.  The picture they showed was pretty ugly---kind of like some mustang features grafted onto a 4 cyl jelly mold grocery getter.  If this happens, I would say that the $$ of Mustangs made previous to this will go up.

[greenpigs]

The Mustang has a huge following and I don't see them changing the current body style anytime soon aside from tweaks.

[Lennard]

BLA BLA BLA...  Last time I checked AMD was a US company...Just tellin' the truth. You don't like it, then that's your problem, not mine...I call it like I see it...It sure is funny how a thread can be totally neg. if EVERYBODY agrees, yet let one come in positive, OR Vise Versa, and they are singled out because they don't agree with the rest. If you offered your own opinion instead of hopping the bandwagon, you might "Rant" as well, so be careful about having an original opinion....

The Mustang parts I was talking about in my reply are made by Dynacorn. Last time I checked Dynacorn was a US company!

[BananaDan]

I heard they were going to change the body style again too for the 50th anniversary.  I hope they do a good job, they finally look good again after years of not.  I didn't like the body style from the 90s.

[F8-4life]

I always thought mopar stuff was more $$$ because less chrysler products were made, so less buyers for reproduction parts. So they raise the price per part to pull the same profit margins.

[TK73]

Ah, so parts made in the Republic of China are better than the parts made in the Peoples Republic of China?   

Well that goes without saying 

I could be wrong, and will be corrected no doubt, but I believe that the parts are stamped on US made or designed dies, making them the better part supplier. 

Good deal!!

[TK73]

Aside from the troll above, The point I was trying to make was the fact that while there ARE more Mustang lovers out there, there are just as many overseas companies selling cheaper parts. So cheap that the American companies don't even try..Wanna guess how much it was to get ONE Exhaust manifold into casting?? In The USA???After everybody gets there "Fair" living off the top?? Try $10K...Then, the first thing the very ones that wanted this manifold (BEGGED for it actually), did was cry and whine about the price...

After the initial parts if demand is good the price, of course, comes down.

[TK73]

I heard they were going to change the body style again too for the 50th anniversary.  I hope they do a good job, they finally look good again after years of not.  I didn't like the body style from the 90s.

Could be ... '14 will be 5 years of the current body (Which I like!!)

Kinda wish I had the newer body style, it's sleeker than the '05 style.  Still gotta pay off my '08 though...

[bill440rt]

I always thought mopar stuff was more $$$ because less chrysler products were made, so less buyers for reproduction parts. So they raise the price per part to pull the same profit margins.

Simple economics. Supply vs demand.  

Several of the repro companies may be US based, but their products are still made overseas.