help with fender tags(72 ralley charger)

[694spdRT]

Just because the A57 isn't on the fender tag it doesn't mean it isn't a Rallye.  I am going to do a rotisserie on a 1972 Dodge Charger Rallye 440 Hemi Orange car.  It is a true rallye car.  Just look for the obvious as stated above.  The bulge hood and tips on the fender tag.

I like that 74 Charger SE 400 with pistol grip.  Sounds like a cool car.  I have a 73 SE 400 4 bbl, pistol grip, and factory sunroof car.

I love them 4 speed cars.  There is a guy locally here that is restoring a black on black with red reflective stripe 340 4 speed rally.  I just sold him seats and a mint decklid.  He is looking for a triple black charger SE.  Think I might do some trading with him.

That 74 SE 400 4 speed also has a factory reflective stripe. 

[41husk]

I am in the process of purchasing a 72 ralley for my next project it is WH23U2G122947,  unless I am mistaken, W=Charger H= coup 23=2 door coup U=440 2=1972 G=Stlouis mo.  this has the RT tail lights Ralley doors and bulge hood.  Is there anything else I should be looking for?

[chargerkid]

Husk,

Was that the rallye that was on the trailer in the swap meet for Monster Mopar Weekend?  Or was it the one that TY owned?

Chargerkid

[41husk]

Niether, This one is in North Carolina and is petty blue and a pretty major project.  I always loved the ralley and the RT 3rd Gens.  I had a 72 cloned to look like a  71 RT  I sold to finish the 68.  I will start on this one as soon as the Challenger is finished   I won't be able to go pick it up until wrestling season is over in about a month.  I have way to many irons in the fire

[41husk]

What Does the A57 stand for?

[Arthu®]

07161 - Assembly Line #
208791 - Seq. # on Line
807 - this is the engine code (can't find my book)
043 - code for rear end and brakes (again, can't find my book)

Ok you are mostly correct but here is what it exactly means as per what Galen Govier says.
07         Gate Sequential Number
   161    Base Sequential Number
208791  Line Sequential Number
807       Engine Assembly: 1972 400ci 4 barrel V8, Automatic Transmission, Air Conditioning, Color: Blue, 255hp
043       Axle Assembly: 1971-72 B-Body, 3.23:1 Gear Ratio, Sure Grip, 10" Drum Brakes, 8.75" Ring Gear, 1 7/8 Pinion, 7290 Yoke.

Arthur

[Arthu®]

What Does the A57 stand for?

A57 was the code for the option package for the Rallye Charger. As it wasn't a seperate model you would get the code on the fender tag. But as Chagerkid already said, nothing can be less true with Mopar. It very well can still be Rallye Charger even if it doesn't have the code. But let's just say that most of em did have the code on the tag.

Anyways this was what the A57 Rallye Package included:
Dark argent grille, power bulge hood with black performance treatment, simulated door louvers, louvered taillights, rallye instrument panel, F70 x 14" WSW tires, front & rear sway bars and the package was not available on the Charger SE.

Arthur

[41husk]

Mine has the A57 Maybe some one can help with some of the other?
1st row: N23  N41  R11  V21   26  END
2nd row: J54  L31  MO8  M21  M25
3rd row: C56  C11  G37  H51  J25  J52
4th row: VLW  U  A57  B41  851  C16
5th row  I83  E6XW  6W1  922 264292
6th row: E86  D34  (The rest is VIN)

This is as best I can make out.

[TruckDriver]

This is most of it......

1st row: N23 (electronic ignition)  N41 (duel exhaust w/o tips)  R11 (music master radio am) V21 (performance hood treatment) 26 (?) END

2nd row: J54 (sport hood 70-1) L31 (HD/fender mount turn signal) MO8 (simulated door louvers 72) M21 (roof drip rail moldings) M25 (wide sill mold)

3rd row: C56 (bucket seats) C11 (?) G37 (O/S duel chrome race) H51 (single air/W heater) J25 (3spd variable wipers) J52 (inside hood release)

4th row: VLW (viynl top code?)  U (build for USA)  A57 (rallye package)  B41 (Front disc brakes) 851 (?) C16 (console w buckets)

5th row  I83 (?) E6XW (?) 6W1 (?) 922 264292 (?)

6th row: E86 (440-4 hp)  D34 (Torqueflite Trans.) (The rest is VIN)

[Arthu®]

I83 = TB3 = Super Blue Body Paint Code
E       Trim Grade = E-Class
  6     Trim Style & Seats = Vinyl, Bucket
    XWTrim Color = White & Black
6W1 = EW1 = White Upper Door Frame Paint
922 = Scheduled Production Date = wednesday september the 22nd 1971.
264292 = Vehicle Order Number
VLW = V1W = Full White Vinyl Roof
U = Build to specifications for US order
851 = B51 = Power Brakes
C11 = Probably G11 = Tinted Glass - All Windows
26 = 26" Radiator

That should cover it or did I miss something?

Arthur

[694spdRT]

Arthur

Do you know what the code 071 is on the top line of a '74 lynch road fender tag? It is right after the line sequential number.

Thanks

[Arthu®]

hmmm only have that code for 1973. It is for a 440-4 Barrel in a B-body. with an automatic and heater with air conditioning.

Arthur

[694spdRT]

hmmm only have that code for 1973. It is for a 440-4 Barrel in a B-body. with an automatic and heater with air conditioning.

Arthur

The car is a 400 4 speed so the code must have changed between those years. I cannot make out all of the last six digits but it goes like this

Assembly #      Sequence#     071     189416

I am not totally sure on the "6" as it is hard to read so it may be something else.

Any thoughts on those other codes?

Thanks

[41husk]

Thanks that helps! 

[Arthu®]

Hmm that is the first time I have ever seen a typo on a Fender Tag.

The code it should be is 701.
701             Engine Assembly: 1974 B-Body, 400ci 1-4 Barrel V8, Manual Transmission, Air Conditioning, Color: Blue, 250hp (High Performance)
189             Axle Assembly: 1974 B-Body, 3.23:1 Gear Ratio, Non Sure-Grip, 10" drums, 8.75" Ring Gear, 1 7/8 Pinion, 7290 Yoke.
416             Transmission Assembly: 1974 B/E-Body, A833, 4-Speed Manual Transmission (odd but what the book says it should be for a 360ci engine, the code for the 400ci V8 is 417. Or maybe the guy that did you tag was only half awake).

Arthur

[TruckDriver]

Hmm that is the first time I have ever seen a typo on a Fender Tag.
The code it should be is 701.

Hey, you got a rare car now.... send it to Barret-Jackson and get 60,000 

[694spdRT]

Hmm that is the first time I have ever seen a typo on a Fender Tag.

The code it should be is 701.
701             Engine Assembly: 1974 B-Body, 400ci 1-4 Barrel V8, Manual Transmission, Air Conditioning, Color: Blue, 250hp (High Performance)
189             Axle Assembly: 1974 B-Body, 3.23:1 Gear Ratio, Non Sure-Grip, 10" drums, 8.75" Ring Gear, 1 7/8 Pinion, 7290 Yoke.
416             Transmission Assembly: 1974 B/E-Body, A833, 4-Speed Manual Transmission (odd but what the book says it should be for a 360ci engine, the code for the 400ci V8 is 417. Or maybe the guy that did you tag was only half awake).

Arthur

Sorry Arthur,

I typed the number backwards in my first post and then kept referring back to the wrong number every time.  It is 701 on the tag. I am positive the last number is not 417, maybe 418. It is funny the car is coded out as a 3.23 open rear. The 2nd owner swears it is a 3.55 gear set and he has owned it since '78...The original owner bought it to pull a boat so he could have had the dealer change it. I hope to be the third owner someday soon. 

[41husk]

can you tell me whar rear and gears are in my 72 from the fender tag?

[Arthu®]

No sorry 41husk only the Lynch Road build cars got those codes, and some of the normal cars if you have an special axle package such as a track pack. But otherwise you can't tell it from the fender tag. This only goes for the 69-74 Tags. the pre 69 tags are a complete different bunch.

Arthur

[Arthu®]

Sorry Arthur,

I typed the number backwards in my first post and then kept referring back to the wrong number every time.  It is 701 on the tag. I am positive the last number is not 417, maybe 418. It is funny the car is coded out as a 3.23 open rear. The 2nd owner swears it is a 3.55 gear set and he has owned it since '78...The original owner bought it to pull a boat so I he could have had the dealer change it. I hope to be the third owner someday soon. 

Mind the fact that it can be very true that the book is wrong on this. The white books are far from perfect even though the part numbers are most of the time much better than the option code books.

Yeah it can very well be changed out by the dealer, they did seem to do quite a lot of dealer changes back than.

Arthur

[41husk]

does anyone know if the A57 package included any particular rear end?

[Arthu®]

Nope except the tires and the front & rear sway bars it was just cosmetical.

Arthur