Buddy Baker's 200mph run

[Aero426]

I love that 88# car, isnt it petty blue which is the same as corporation blue?

Corporation Blue is accepted as Petty Blue on the street cars, but it's really not exactly the same as the race car color.    If you want to step into a real hornets nest,  ask ten model car builders what the "correct" shade of Petty Blue is.  

[learical1]

Doug, that picture of Lee Roy reminded me of several stories about why Ford ran the exhaust out the rear instead of the usual side exit for some races.  Rumors about messing with the ability of another car to draft or the rear car in a draft overheating because hot exhaust was passing through the radiator.    Don't mean to hijack this thread, but enquiring minds (at least mine) want to know the straight dope.

[Aero426]

As far as I know Bruce, it was to make drafting more difficult.   I don't know if there was a performance advantage.   I have never seen a document as such.     I have to say, those pipes out the back are a good looking setup.

[RTDaddy]

Herb Nab ran those pipes out the back specifically to overheat a car drafting Leeroy.  Nascar out-lawed the practice because it was thought the drafting driver might get "gassed" by the CO2, (and it tended to defeat the "slingshot.").

"IF YOU'RE UNDER CONTROL, YOU AIN'T GOING FAST ENOUGH."

[Aero426]

It worked equally well for Dodges too.    These were allowed in USAC into at least 1972. 

[tan top]

It worked equally well for Dodges too.    These were allowed in USAC into at least 1972.  

am i right in thinking  this yellow & black daytona   , must be the  chrysler engineering #88 daytona   never realised it before 

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,85143.175.html

[Aero426]

It worked equally well for Dodges too.    These were allowed in USAC into at least 1972.  

am i right in thinking  this yellow & black daytona   , must be the  chrysler engineering #88 daytona   never realised it before  

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,85143.175.html

It's not the same car.    The #88 was given to Don by Ronney Householder in 1971 to run on his own.  You will see it as car #5.    It has nothing to do with any car that Don White drove before 1971.

Don's #3 Daytona was a car he drove in 1970 for Ray Nichels as the factory Dodge in USAC.   No doubt it was his long track Charger 500 in 1969 (he had two cars) and likely was a '68 Charger race car the year before.    In 1971, Ray Nichels sold this car to Butch Hartman's team.  So it then became a #75 Hartman car joining the very competent Nichels built car they already had.   I was told that the Hartman's paid $25k  (heap big money for a three year old car),  because the car was perceived to have the latest tweaks as the factory ride.   Whereabouts today are unknown.  

The 1970 car that I am blathering on about can always be identified by the two square cooling openings below the headlights.   It often has a little lip of metal added to the top of the LH headlight opening to grab a little more air, and it often ran the square cooling ducts attached to the drivers.    The cooling vents are the give-away.   On the wing upright is the word "Chiquita", as a "flying banana" reference.

[tan top]

It worked equally well for Dodges too.    These were allowed in USAC into at least 1972.  

am i right in thinking  this yellow & black daytona   , must be the  chrysler engineering #88 daytona   never realised it before  

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,85143.175.html

It's not the same car.    The #88 was given to Don by Ronney Householder in 1971 to run on his own.  You will see it as car #5.    It has nothing to do with any car that Don White drove before 1971.

Don's #3 Daytona was a car he drove in 1970 for Ray Nichels as the factory Dodge in USAC.   No doubt it was his long track Charger 500 in 1969 (he had two cars) and likely was a '68 Charger race car the year before.    In 1971, Ray Nichels sold this car to Butch Hartman's team.  So it then became a #75 Hartman car joining the very competent Nichels built car they already had.   I was told that the Hartman's paid $25k  (heap big money for a three year old car),  because the car was perceived to have the latest tweaks as the factory ride.   Whereabouts today are unknown.  

The 1970 car that I am blathering on about can always be identified by the two square cooling openings below the headlights.   It often has a little lip of metal added to the top of the LH headlight opening to grab a little more air, and it often ran the square cooling ducts attached to the drivers.    The cooling vents are the give-away.   On the wing upright is the word "Chiquita", as a "flying banana" reference.

oh right !!  thanks for sharing the info (Aero426)  appreciated ! love reading about this kind of Aero stuff 

[C5HM]

As far as I know Bruce, it was to make drafting more difficult.   I don't know if there was a performance advantage.   I have never seen a document as such.     I have to say, those pipes out the back are a good looking setup.

Doug, Per the dyno sheets I have seen from H&M, the long dumps were good for another 20-30 HP.