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additional VIN numbers for Daytonas, compared to the ship list

Started by held1823, October 20, 2011, 11:26:49 PM

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nascarxx29

440  P31 Power windows  R22 Am 8 track  N88 Cruise control.
Dodge Executive Garage Daytona 355104
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

held1823

Quote from: nascarxx29 on October 22, 2011, 04:28:45 PM
Depending on your amount of columns available you might want to include furthest back previous owner info where as you can find it. And include the Nascar drivers owned street driven daytonas not on regular shiplist . Need anything just ask.

it wont show on the photos above, but i did add the nascar drivers in a new column on the file. the number of available columns can go into the thousands. there could be a column for every option possible, but that task is not one id want to tackle.

as far as listing owner names, that might ruffle a few feathers. it's one thing to build a "dealer inventory" list, but quite another to track a car over the years. i'm afraid that disclosing any personal information might keep someone from sharing even the most basic stuff. if someone wants to take a list to that level, that would be up to them.  


Quote from: Alaskan_TA on October 22, 2011, 06:32:47 PM
Can you email the Excel file? I use Works for this type of thing, but I may be able to convert it in a few hours. With Works the grid can be copied & pasted.:cheers:

i'll email it this evening.

Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on October 22, 2011, 03:01:53 PM
Thanks for your work on this... great thread!  After you are done tweaking the list, and believe it is ready for it's "Initial Release"... If you want, I can assemble the images into printable 850x1100 images like the example below with the first three images combined.  Try printing the sample below, and see if you like it...



that would work great for anyone wanting a hard copy. i posted the images the way i did, just to fill in all the blank posts i had already created when trying to copy and paste it the first time. i can email you the file itself, with the updates from today, rather than you trying to work with the cropped and resized stuff i posted.
Ernie Helderbrand
XX29L9B409053

held1823

Quote from: nascarxx29 on October 22, 2011, 05:10:03 PM
Theres a daytona in the stripe color shiplist SPD 519 VON 926115 Commerce Garage Ohio Sales Show black stripe XX29L9B286583.Still looking for the 217 car
                       SPD 519 VON 926217 Pierce Dodge Littleton Co Shows red stripe XX29L9B2386554

let me know if you come up with anything else on these, dave. im not sure whether to add the two VIN's to the list or not, since they are so far out of sequence?

Quote from: FJMG on October 22, 2011, 05:58:24 PM
Just to help you fill in; I have seen the sheets for the following;
409030 - T5, tan
414639 - V2, black
And from a Book, a DVD and from speaking with people who have seen the car when it first arrived,
414638 - T5, tan
And from this site;
414659 - V2, black
414660 - X9, black

thanks, this info has been added.

Quote from: 69 DAYTONA on October 22, 2011, 07:27:32 PM
#409060 Goeke...F6, white/4-spd

#356538 Shope...R4, blk/AT

dang, larry. you'd think id have added these two from memory, especially since one of them is sitting less than a mile from my house

Ernie Helderbrand
XX29L9B409053

held1823

oooops. wrong button. no wonder the edit wouldn't show up....
Ernie Helderbrand
XX29L9B409053

69 DAYTONA

Quote from: held1823 on October 22, 2011, 08:59:15 PM
Quote from: nascarxx29 on October 22, 2011, 05:10:03 PM
Theres a daytona in the stripe color shiplist SPD 519 VON 926115 Commerce Garage Ohio Sales Show black stripe XX29L9B286583.Still looking for the 217 car
                       SPD 519 VON 926217 Pierce Dodge Littleton Co Shows red stripe XX29L9B2386554

let me know if you come up with anything else on these, dave. im not sure whether to add the two VIN's to the list or not, since they are so far out of sequence?

Quote from: FJMG on October 22, 2011, 05:58:24 PM
Just to help you fill in; I have seen the sheets for the following;
409030 - T5, tan
414639 - V2, black
And from a Book, a DVD and from speaking with people who have seen the car when it first arrived,
414638 - T5, tan
And from this site;
414659 - V2, black
414660 - X9, black

thanks, this info has been added.

Quote from: 69 DAYTONA on October 22, 2011, 07:27:32 PM
#409060 Goeke...F6, white/4-spd

#356538 Shope...R4, blk/AT

dang, larry. you'd think id have added these two from memory, especially since one of them is sitting less than a mile from my house



:>)))

xs29j8Bullitt

From the (incorrect) broadcast sheet found in my Daytona...

356519  -  R4  -  Black  -  4 Speed
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

held1823

Ernie Helderbrand
XX29L9B409053

nascarxx29

 The oldest dated record of past owner history.Is what I would like to see.If I was looking into a certain cars history  :Twocents:
The wingcar period from 80s & on cars changed hands so much and so often .Im still looking a finding other buildsheets in my albums
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

held1823

Quote from: nascarxx29 on October 22, 2011, 09:54:42 PM
The oldest dated record of past owner history.Is what I would like to see.If I was looking into a certain cars history :Twocents:The wingcar period from 80s & on cars changed hands so much and so often

sorry, i misread it the first time. i agree, that would be pretty cool, but man, would it ever be a task. any takers?
Ernie Helderbrand
XX29L9B409053

nascarxx29

Most of that exchanged type of info .I find right here who owned it where it sat and in what cond etc.By first second third hand accounts etc.Take Larrys F6 daytona we know its life history and seen archive pictures :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Not every car and story is that through
This was a great account of a one owner story
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,84260.0.html vin with history
Former stolen daytona
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,35673.msg391232/topicseen.html#msg391232 vins with history
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

xs29j8Bullitt

Three from the Internet...

The second is the "Debris Field" Daytona from eBay  (XX29L9B402977)

The third is the "Ravine Remnants" Daytona
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

nascarxx29

Another my friend in TX gave me the heads up about this car way back 355107.
Old club recorded number lists
http://www.colinsclassicauto.com/domestic_affairs_0610.pdf



1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

Buildsheets 390014 .And recently reunited to the 510 daytona buildsheet

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

held1823

when i first started this thread, it was just a curiousity thing that had no real implications. the more i've thought about, along with the responses to the topic thus far, have got me thinking about continuing to work on it. this might even be a bonus for me, as i need the practice working with the excel software. the spread sheet now is laid out a little differently than in the photos i posted earlier in this thread. i've filled in at least fifty holes, just from the replies and searching some of the older threads. hopefully, this doesn't become an obsession. when i give up, i'll repost the final product, and perhaps someone else will take up the torch and build a comprehensive, and public, database of the cars. our own little daytonapedia, so to speak.
Ernie Helderbrand
XX29L9B409053

nascarxx29

 :2thumbs: :2thumbs: On your one place daytona resource Im trying to get the ads to go with most or all of the shiplist cars in my new photobucket account and give all access .I got alot never posted to share
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

Another good reference 69 charger registry has a gallery many thumbnail pics of daytonas.That I or others might be able to put vins with by recognizing the car.


http://www.1969chargerregistry.com/gallery/daytona?page=1
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

tan top

 :o  this is awesome stuff !! nice job on the list !! (held1823)  :bow: makes for good ! intresting reading  :yesnod:  , love this kind of stuff  :yesnod: :popcrn:
have a couple of daytona fender tag pictures saved , some where  , lost a lot when i had to have the hard drive replaced & never backed that file up  :slap:!
will post them here as & when , if you have no info on them  

XX29L9B409058   is looking like its V2  
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Investment-Grade-s-Match-1969-Dodge-Charger-Daytona-/280756597502?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item415e65b2fe  
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

held1823

it will take some time, but a lot of the original information is out there. i just have to uncover it. there are 100 pages of posts to sort through for this forum alone. amazingly (sadly?), half of them so far seem to concern clones (psttt troy, two words: aero-clone section). the ship list could knock SPD numbers out in a hurry, but where would the fun be in that...

i've decided to focus only on the cars as they left chrysler, and leave any ownership history completely off of this list. doing so should allleviate any and all concern about privacy, since no one was even an owner at that point in time. below is a sample of where things stand at the moment. short of clear photos of 500 fender tags, this is the extent of detail i intend to gather up. options, stripe colors, and the like, are far beyond my enthusiasm level at this time.
Ernie Helderbrand
XX29L9B409053

nascarxx29

Those uncertain vins came later I dont think many of them were even on the old lists like this
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

Quote from: tan top on October 24, 2011, 03:25:08 AM
:o  this is awesome stuff !! nice job on the list !! (held1823)  :bow: makes for good ! intresting reading  :yesnod:  , love this kind of stuff  :yesnod: :popcrn:
have a couple of daytona fender tag pictures saved , some where  , lost a lot when i had to have the hard drive replaced & never backed that file up  :slap:!
will post them here as & when , if you have no info on them  

XX29L9B409058   is looking like its V2  
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Investment-Grade-s-Match-1969-Dodge-Charger-Daytona-/280756597502?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item415e65b2fe  

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,51033.0.html 409058
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

held1823

the 356523 big willie car is on that page. has anyone accurately determined which ship list number is correct for that car - #17 or #364?

would you choose #364, simply because it is closer to the second willie car on the list (356525, car #386)?

356523 shows both new york (Gramatan(spelling?)) and texas (Vario) origins, while 356525 shows as california (Earl Ike). if it wasnt confusing enough, the third willie car (356535, car #214) shows north carolina. willie's LA group sure seems to have gotten around. 

regardless of which one is really the 356523 car, what becomes of the other ship-listed number? some other car, had to be that second ship number. does that ship list number join #92 and #115, in the orphanage?
Ernie Helderbrand
XX29L9B409053

nascarxx29

 :Twocents: Big Willies car got around his current 440 Daytona on ebay sold 10 minutes from me going by the list @ Cherry Hill Dodge On another note his magazine ad Hemi Daytona had Warren Fox dodge on it 1/4s..Hard to say for sure where it orginated from.If I can find I got a ad from Vern Holmes CA 426 daytona PW
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

held1823

has it been determined where 381550 was actually shipped to? new york (470), or oregon (64)?


Ernie Helderbrand
XX29L9B409053

nascarxx29

379743   275   ny      DeFranco Dodge Peekskill, NJ   8/28/1969   
379753   332   ny      Culver Dodge Rochester, NY   8/29/1969   
381550   470   ny      McEvoy Dodge Rochester, NY   9/4/1969   duplicate
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

hemigeno

Quote from: held1823 on October 26, 2011, 01:25:52 AM
has it been determined where 381550 was actually shipped to? new york (470), or oregon (64)?



As far as I know, 381550 is not a duplicate listing.  #470 on the list is 381554 if I'm not mistaken.

I haven't had time to go through this thread as carefully as I'd like, but it's a good thing for multiple people to be checking and re-checking the list.  I still don't feel like my spreadsheets are 100% complete, and I've been incrementally working on it since the Shipping List was first published in 2003-4.

For what it's worth, for about 3-4 years now Troy P. and I have been gradually developing a Daytona Registry that will allow users to search the respective Shipping & Dealer Invoice list for certain cars, sort through registered cars for certain option combinations (no publication of owner's names, etc.), and a bunch of other cool features.  It's obviously been in the works for a long time, but hopefully someday soon we can have a roll-out of the initial website for everyone to kick around.  One of the problems in developing such a thing is the more I stew on it, the more ideas I come up with.  Troy probably cringes every time the phone rings and it's me on the other end.