Re: Selling my Daytona is "underway", guess who was the first to call on it...

[moparstuart]

 sue has all the news letters on CD ROM if you wanna buy them 

[xs29j8Bullitt]

sue has all the news letters on CD ROM if you wanna buy them 

Thanks Stuart... I did not know that, I will buy a full set! 

[nascarxx29]

I got a 1975-1994 WW CD beats going thru boxes of newsletters I got every newsletter for DSAC from #1 my friend was 17th member.DSAC doest have newsletters on CD

[Aero426]

I got a 1975-1994 WW CD beats going thru boxes of newsletters I got every newsletter for DSAC my friend was 17th member.DSAC doest have newsletters on CD

We have a lot of DSAC back issues still available on hard copy.   

[xs29j8Bullitt]

I got a 1975-1994 WW CD beats going thru boxes of newsletters I got every newsletter for DSAC my friend was 17th member.DSAC doest have newsletters on CD

We have a lot of DSAC back issues still available on hard copy.   

  I bought a full set from you a year or two ago... excellent reading, still got a ways to go. 

BTW, any thoughts on my repair concept?...  Also, do you have any NOS or used parts for sale, or did everything you advertised a while back sell?

[xs29j8Bullitt]

I got a 1975-1994 WW CD beats going thru boxes of newsletters I got every newsletter for DSAC from #1 my friend was 17th member.DSAC doest have newsletters on CD

I found the CD on there webpage, but not certain how to order... called, but got an answering machine.  I will call again this evening.

[nascarxx29]

If that car was ever advertised in hemmings I got every issue from #1

[moparstuart]

I got a 1975-1994 WW CD beats going thru boxes of newsletters I got every newsletter for DSAC from #1 my friend was 17th member.DSAC doest have newsletters on CD

I found the CD on there webpage, but not certain how to order... called, but got an answering machine.  I will call again this evening.

you can email sue also     tell he i sent you    sue george(hemixx29@q.com)

[nascarxx29]

Become a member  http://wwnboa.org/

[held1823]

the WW club takes paypal for membership dues, so perhaps they will also accept paypal for the $20 cd? they might have to send you an invoice through paypal, since there is no direct link from the merchandise page. for money order purchases, the bottom of the page states this:

Send Orders To:
Winged Warriors/N.B.O.A.
International Headquarters
216-12th Street
Boone, IA 50036-2019


i bought a bunch of DSAC newsletters from Doug (through Ebay) a few years ago, but have no idea where I've put them. Doug, is it safe to assume that it was all of the back issues that were available, at that time?

on a side note, i hope santa brings dave a scanner, for Christmas...

[xs29j8Bullitt]

If that car was ever advertised in hemmings I got every issue from #1

Thanks Dave!    My Daytona's VIN is on that list! 

[xs29j8Bullitt]

I got a 1975-1994 WW CD beats going thru boxes of newsletters I got every newsletter for DSAC from #1 my friend was 17th member.DSAC doest have newsletters on CD

I found the CD on there webpage, but not certain how to order... called, but got an answering machine.  I will call again this evening.

you can email sue also     tell he i sent you    sue george(hemixx29@q.com)

Will do... thanks again Stuart... any other neat reference material I should know about?

[nascarxx29]

The archive CD is pretty good as far as available wing car archive material.It has Nascar Street Classics on it.CD has classifieds ads vin lists members names etc .Good for back tracking owner historys.The shiplist is another good reference piece 1/2 way down the page.I also have  60-s parts# books on CD

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,75320.0.html

[xs29j8Bullitt]

The archive CD is pretty good as far as available wing car archive material.It has Nascar Street Classics on it.CD has classifieds ads vin lists members names etc .Good for back tracking owner historys.The shiplist is another good reference piece 1/2 way down the page
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,75320.0.html

I have both the Daytona & Superbird shipping lists... I guess Galen is the only holder of a C500 shipping list?  I have traced the Superbird all the way back and the C500 back to 1971... 

[nascarxx29]

Good reference material parts llustrations.You can never have enough reference material for 30+ year cars


http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,26247.0.html

[Aero426]

i bought a bunch of DSAC newsletters from Doug (through Ebay) a few years ago, but have no idea where I've put them. Doug, is it safe to assume that it was all of the back issues that were available, at that time?

I am sure I have more than the small batch of 40 newsletters that I put on Ebay.     I whittled down a LARGE pile of back issues a couple years ago, but I still have more left, easily going back into the 80's. 

[nascarxx29]

As for the charger 500 list I got the newsletter one no dealers just club cars.
The dealer 500 list has been a topic before whos got one and how complete
.http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,67342.msg756953/topicseen.html#msg756953
Our first computer crashed taking the scanner software with it.No scanner got digital camera with signature time stamp cant get off  
I have every DSAC newsletter from#1.If you know a particular month of what you looking for will try to post it

[Troy]

Allen, I did have a (mostly) complete front clip from a 69 Coronet. It was missing the radiator support. I couldn't manage to sell it so I started parting it out. I sold both inner fenders and one frame rail. The upper and lower cowl pieces, firewall, and door hinge mount area are still attached as one piece at this time. It came apart rather easily.

I think you'd be better off with the complete clip so that you can guarantee that it's all straight (ok, as straight as 1969 quality control will allow) and so you only have a few connection points to deal with. There are a LOT of spot welds in some areas so it's best to leave those intact. I think the trickiest area will be the A pillars.

Troy

[moparstuart]

allen this is a great thread with pictures on a fire wall  cowl low on the windshield post cut replacement

    great photos         http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/showthread.php?t=4469&highlight=junk+yard+dog&page=6  



 cowl cut front clip replacement is a standard in my salvage industy .  


  pictures  further on in the thread 
    http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/showthread.php?t=4469&highlight=junk+yard+dog&page=8

 

[xs29j8Bullitt]

I think you'd be better off with the complete clip so that you can guarantee that it's all straight (ok, as straight as 1969 quality control will allow) and so you only have a few connection points to deal with. There are a LOT of spot welds in some areas so it's best to leave those intact. I think the trickiest area will be the A pillars.

Troy

Thanks for the update Troy...  Yes, I would like a complete frame front end clip like you suggest.  Back last Winter I was still planning a part-by-part repair, and bought a Firewall & Cowl Assy for $300 and expected the shipping to be about $125.  Instead it cost:  $300 (Firewall) + $30 (pallet) + $455 (freight shipping) = $785... later the shipping company billed another $50 because of a typo they made, but refunded the charge when I    The $455 quote was the lowest one I could find, other low priority quotes ranged as high as $800.  After that, my search has been limited to about a day's drive, or about 500 mile radius.

The non-air firewall & cowl assy that I bought:

allen this is a great thread with pictures on a fire wall  cowl low on the windshield post cut replacement

    great photos         http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/showthread.php?t=4469&highlight=junk+yard+dog&page=6  



 cowl cut front clip replacement is a standard in my salvage industy .  


  pictures  further on in the thread 
    http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/showthread.php?t=4469&highlight=junk+yard+dog&page=8

 

Thanks for the links Stuart...

[Aero426]

As far as the Structure goes, Id like to see what Doug S. has for input. He is a frame and unibody tech by trade if I dont have my wires crossed...  

Allen, how much damage is there to the actual firewall?   Looks like there are some extra holes in it? 

Obviously the aprons are damaged and will be replaced.    Once you do your rough pulls and the now sacrificial aprons are removed, how much damage is there to the firewall and frame rails?   I assume they can be worked and saved as original components.   If the rail has hard kinks bent a certain amount of degrees, we then think about replacing it.  

Your plan for a jig and fixtures as we discussed on the phone a while back is a good one.    If you were going to replace the entire rails, I would want to go back all the way as you have highlighted in red on the frame diagram.  I can only see so much from the pics.  But in any event, I would replace only what truly needs replacing.   A talented metal man can work wonders.    It's only metal, and metal has memory.

[Aero426]

I think all those dimensions are in the FSM. I had them when I was researching my "tweaked" black 68 Charger. I guess I'll have to look again to see where I put them.

Looks really solid Allen!

Troy

Indeed there are dimensions in the FSM.   The ones in the aftermarket frame book may be a little more user friendly in term of actually using them in a repair.

[moparstuart]

 if the firewall is just sheet metal damage  , we did this to mine to make it a a/c fire wall

[xs29j8Bullitt]

As far as the Structure goes, Id like to see what Doug S. has for input. He is a frame and unibody tech by trade if I dont have my wires crossed...  

Allen, how much damage is there to the actual firewall?   Looks like there are some extra holes in it? 

Obviously the aprons are damaged and will be replaced.    Once you do your rough pulls and the now sacrificial aprons are removed, how much damage is there to the firewall and frame rails?   I assume they can be worked and saved as original components.   If the rail has hard kinks bent a certain amount of degrees, we then think about replacing it.  

Your plan for a jig and fixtures as we discussed on the phone a while back is a good one.    If you were going to replace the entire rails, I would want to go back all the way as you have highlighted in red on the frame diagram.  I can only see so much from the pics.  But in any event, I would replace only what truly needs replacing.   A talented metal man can work wonders.    It's only metal, and metal has memory.

Doug, the firewall is toast IMO... the external cowl panel is buckled, but repairable... but the cowl structure may have hidden damage.  The firewall is buckled and bent all over, basically the utility pole center-punched the nose and drove the engine back into the firewall.  The frame rails are both bowed and buckled/kinked... they need replacing.  A few days ago I discovered the front floor pan buckled at the driver's feet.

The firewall pic below is from when I bought the car, and is out of focus.  I plan take better pics in the next few days.  The extra holes in the firewall are apparently from an aftermarket under-dash air conditioner that must have been installed at one time.

[Aero426]

That wrinkle in the floor will come out.   It's a matter of reversing direction and sequence.    Last damage in is first damage out.    The structural panels pretty much need to stay together while the corrective pulls are being made.  The old panels are sacrificial so you can get the remaining unibody back into spec.    Most shops today are familiar with drive on racks that do a single pull, or maybe a double pull.    Multiple pulling will simplfy the process.    Think of if you could grab it with multiple hands.    The attached photo is an extreme example of multiple pulls!