Re: Selling my Daytona is "underway", guess who was the first to call on it...

[UFO]

I found a penny... purchase price lowered to $1799.99... 

Just to help you get your money back,how about I give you 2,000 for the car? 

[xs29j8Bullitt]

I found a penny... purchase price lowered to $1799.99... 

Just to help you get your money back,how about I give you 2,000 for the car? 

... depends, 2,000 of what?... 

If you mean $2,000... maybe if you send it in a very purdy delivery envelope...   say the glove box in a shiny new 2012 Challenger 392 SRT8...   

[moparstuart]

I found a penny... purchase price lowered to $1799.99... 

Just to help you get your money back,how about I give you 2,000 for the car? 

... depends, 2,000 of what?... 

If you mean $2,000... maybe if you send it in a very purdy delivery envelope...   say the glove box in a shiny new 2012 Challenger 392 SRT8...   

and the green with envy model   

[Charger-Bodie]

As far as the Structure goes, Id like to see what Doug S. has for input. He is a frame and unibody tech by trade if I dont have my wires crossed... 

[xs29j8Bullitt]

As far as the Structure goes, Id like to see what Doug S. has for input. He is a frame and unibody tech by trade if I dont have my wires crossed... 

I would very much like to know his thoughts/opinions on the repair concept... Doug???  Ya lurking here? 

Frame specs are already in hand... Thanks to a generous (unnamed) contributor!

[xs29j8Bullitt]

The current concept...

[held1823]

morbid curiosity makes me have to ask, why would you black out the dimensions?

[xs29j8Bullitt]

morbid curiousity makes me have to ask, why would you black out the dimensions?

When I received the data, I did not ask if it was OK to freely distribute it... I will ask the contributor when I next talk to him.  I see copies of these being sold on eBay also...

Maybe I should not have posted it at all...    Sorry if anyone takes offense... none meant.  

eBay Auction:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/69-Dodge-Coronet-Charger-Super-Bee-NOS-Frame-Dimensions-/320544634610?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item4aa1f2f6f2

[Troy]

I think all those dimensions are in the FSM. I had them when I was researching my "tweaked" black 68 Charger. I guess I'll have to look again to see where I put them.

Looks really solid Allen!

Troy

[held1823]

morbid curiousity makes me have to ask, why would you black out the dimensions?

When I received the data, I did not ask if it was OK to freely distribute it... I will ask the contributor when I next talk to him.  I see copies of these being sold on eBay also...

Maybe I should not have posted it at all...    Sorry if anyone takes offense... none meant.  

no, it certainly was not offensive. i assumed that would have been your reasoning. the idea that someone (if other than tru-way) is trying to sell it on ebay is funny, since it is available from several places, including http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/upload2/6556156-Frame69Coronet.jpg

[xs29j8Bullitt]

morbid curiousity makes me have to ask, why would you black out the dimensions?

When I received the data, I did not ask if it was OK to freely distribute it... I will ask the contributor when I next talk to him.  I see copies of these being sold on eBay also...

Maybe I should not have posted it at all...    Sorry if anyone takes offense... none meant.  

no, it certainly was not offensive. i assumed that would have been your reasoning. the idea that someone is trying to sell it on ebay is funny, since it is available from several places, including http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/upload2/6556156-Frame69Coronet.jpg

There it is... I tried to find an uncensored one about a year ago on the Internet, and failed to.  

BTW, do you happen to know of a website with 1970's era copies of the Winged Warriors newsletters (or at least the Aero Car owners lists they also published?  I am making a final push to locate the original engine and transmission for the Daytona, so I do not want the VIN number posted all over the Internet until I have located the parts or decided that there is little to no chance to do so.  At that point I will reveal the sequential number like I did with my Charger 500 after tracking it back to 1971...  The reason being is to try to avoid a situation like has happened to two friends, whose engines were bought for "investments", and basically held for ransom.  Similar to the little drama a few years ago where Rick E's numbers-matching Charger 500 engine was bought off of craigslist and offered to Rick for a obscene marked-up price...

[held1823]

no idea on the old club newsletters. (the one man who would know will surely see this thread)

im not even clear on the distinction between the DSAC and WW clubs, back then. i had thought dad was a member of DSAC for a year or two, back in the early 80's , but when i recently gave the specifics of dad's car to doug s., he only found mention of it in the old WW club. this was a surprise, as dad remembers talking to monroe s. back then, and even recalled him by name. did the two clubs share info?

i wish you well on finding the engine to yours. i've read the thread about the c500 engine that you refer to, so i understand 100% why the VIN is undisclosed. hopefully it didn't meet the same fate as the engine in dad's car, which had six of the eight rods exit the block, just above the oil pan.

[djcarguy]

A 1969 B-Body donor car will be used to insure the parts are identical, 1968 & 1970 models have some differences.   A non-air 1969 B-Body damaged in the rear would be an ideal donor... if any knows of one available, please let me know.

Here are the pics of the front frame section damage:
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                     WHILE BACK,MOPAR JOHN POSTED A PIC OF A 69 CORNET 4 DOOR HE WAS PARTING AND HAD CUT IN HALF SHOWING THE FRONT END.MAY BE WORTH A PM TO SEE??ALL THE BEST ON SAVING YOUR DAYTONA ,IT TOOK A SOLID HIT.LIKE THE YELLOW BIRD AND C 500,TOO.  DJ IN OREGON

[djcarguy]

     ALSO TROY OR SOMEONE HAD A ADD ON HERE TRYING TO SELL FRONT CLIP AND FIREWALL... BEEN A FEW MONTHS AND DID NOT WANT TO SHIP LARGE PARTS..........GOOD LUCK     DJ

[xs29j8Bullitt]

no idea on the old club newsletters. (the one man who would know will surely see this thread)

im not even clear on the distinction between the DSAC and WW clubs, back then. i had thought dad was a member of DSAC for a year or two, back in the early 80's , but when i recently gave the specifics of dad's car to doug s., he only found mention of it in the old WW club. this was a surprise, as dad remembers talking to monroe s. back then, and even recalled him by name. did the two clubs share info?

i wish you well on finding the engine to yours. i've read the thread about the c500 engine that you refer to, so i understand 100% why the VIN is undisclosed. hopefully it didn't meet the same fate as the engine in dad's car, which had six of the eight rods exit the block, just above the oil pan.

...yeah you are right... but like "Wiki-Leaks", there is a history to be considered.

The engine being driven a foot or so back into the firewall during the collision in 1979 probably did not do it much good too...    It should be an interesting story... beginning with why the Daytona was on a median traveling at a high rate of speed!     

[xs29j8Bullitt]

A 1969 B-Body donor car will be used to insure the parts are identical, 1968 & 1970 models have some differences.   A non-air 1969 B-Body damaged in the rear would be an ideal donor... if any knows of one available, please let me know.

Here are the pics of the front frame section damage:

WHILE BACK,MOPAR JOHN POSTED A PIC OF A 69 CORNET 4 DOOR HE WAS PARTING AND HAD CUT IN HALF SHOWING THE FRONT END.MAY BE WORTH A PM TO SEE??ALL THE BEST ON SAVING YOUR DAYTONA ,IT TOOK A SOLID HIT.LIKE THE YELLOW BIRD AND C 500,TOO.  DJ IN OREGON
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     ALSO TROY OR SOMEONE HAD A ADD ON HERE TRYING TO SELL FRONT CLIP AND FIREWALL... BEEN A FEW MONTHS AND DID NOT WANT TO SHIP LARGE PARTS..........GOOD LUCK     DJ

Thanks for the leads DJ... I will follow up on them! 

[nascarxx29]

These kinds of list .I have from most of the clubs 75-
few pages back a door jamb sticker showed cooksons transmission city dallas was there any follow up to who had the trans serviced there

[xs29j8Bullitt]

These kinds of list .I have from most of the clubs 75-
few pages back a door jamb sticker showed cooksons transmission city dallas was there any follow up to who had the trans serviced there

Yes Dave, exactly those lists are what I need.  I know it showed up in at least one list, maybe more...

The guy that I bought it from has been unable to remember the last name of who he got it from.

I will call Cookson's tomorrow, but is unlikely they will know after 30+ years...

The car/owner may be mentioned in the WW newsletters too, but I do not know if he or the car were ever mentioned...

[xs29j8Bullitt]

I think all those dimensions are in the FSM. I had them when I was researching my "tweaked" black 68 Charger. I guess I'll have to look again to see where I put them.

Looks really solid Allen!

Troy

Thanks Troy...  The more I look at the car, it is clear that it was above average for a 10 year old car when it was wrecked in 1979.  Unfortunately it spent a great deal of 1984 thru 1989 stored outdoors in a horse pasture.  I have been told that a old bath tub was placed near the rear of the Daytona as a water trough, and horses that were being ridden were tied to the wing as a hitching post...    At least they did not use it like a Hemi `Cuda that a friend told me of... the trunk was used to salt-down slaughtered hogs...   

[djcarguy]

WENT BACK IN ADDS,, SORRY caps no yell,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it was admin..troys add with pics bumped to augest 17 2011..drive frame rail sold and is ac cowl with no inner fenders...  lots of pics. thinks it 69 coronet??  i have a 75 valient no ac frame,cowl?   haha kidding sure not near same,,good luck.  dj

[held1823]

the WW list that dave posted above shows a 376559, which does not appear on the list of 500 cars on a different thread?

[xs29j8Bullitt]

the WW list that dave posted above shows a 376559, which does not appear on the list of 500 cars on a different thread?

We will see what Dave says, but I am guessing that these owner lists were compiled before the 500 +/- car shipping list was available to the clubs.  It might be  an R/T cloned into an "XX", or one that got omitted by mistake.  Might be a clue in the covered up area...    wonder why it was covered? ....Dave?  Can you post the entire page, or better yet the entire list? 

[xs29j8Bullitt]

These kinds of list .I have from most of the clubs 75-
few pages back a door jamb sticker showed cooksons transmission city dallas was there any follow up to who had the trans serviced there

I called Cookson's Transmission and talked to the owner.  He remembers the car, but only because it was so outrageous... he even remembered the color was still red at the time.

Dave since the car was wrecked in 1979, can you send me the entire WW Daytona list from that year?... Or post the complete list?

[nascarxx29]

Will see what I can dig up

[xs29j8Bullitt]

Will see what I can dig up

Thanks Dave...

I just talked to the guy that I bought it from, and he is going to go to the house where the car was stored when he bought it... the wrecked front end and possibly the engine & trans were there when he picked the car up...  probably long gone by now!!!