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Need pictures!! 1968 Disc Brake Booster/Master Cylinder

Started by Magnumcharger, October 05, 2011, 06:17:53 AM

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Magnumcharger

I just bought all of the above parts, along with a complete set of discs from a 1968 Charger R/T. The booster is apart, and in need of a rebuild.
From what I've seen online, it looks like there is different boosters used for disc brakes. Maybe a Bendix booster, and another kind as well.

I just need to verify if the one I've got is the right one to send away to get overhauled.
Thanks.
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

Magnumcharger

This is why I'm confused:
These pictures show a different style of booster associated with disc brake equipped B-Bodies. Mine seems to look a whole lot "flatter", if that's the right term to describe it.
Look at the one in the background compared to the foreground booster.

As well, this diagram shows a booster in cross-section. Looks very different from my own.
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

Magnumcharger

Okay...found out the answer for myself...not the answer I was looking for! :icon_smile_blackeye:

I bought the disc brakes, which were fine. The booster is a Midland-Ross unit, designed for drum brakes. Even the Master Cylinder is the wrong one (although it should work).

I posed all of these questions to Wayne..."The Ram Man".
http://www.theramman.com/
He quickly filled me in.

Now...I need the proper Bendix booster, which is actually four parts: Master Cylinder/Booster/Plate/and Linkage.

Anybody got one for sale? :icon_smile_big: :scratchchin:
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

Magnumcharger

And the parts I need:
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

Magnumcharger

A few more pics of what I need:
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

Magnumcharger

Last group of shots:
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

gtx6970

master cylinders I have here.

boosters on the other hand can be kind of tricky to locate

Chatt69chgr

Bendix Boosters are made of unobtainium.  The linkage is hard to find too--they show up on ebay.  A C-body booster is the same except for the length of the push rod.  Prior Brake can rebuild these and put in the right length push rod.  O/W, you can use a different booster that Cardone has which is a functional equivalent but not "correct" as it were.

I see that the Master shown has the brake lines going toward the inner fender panel.  Isn't that only correct for the Hemi application?  Shouldn't they be going toward the engine for the 440 setup?  Seems like the version with the lines going toward the engine were available from NAPA for a while.

Inline Tube has the brass brake valves.

hemi71x

If your interested in this Bendix booster, it can be purchased from me.
I recently removed it from a 1965 Chrysler Imperial.
It has been recently rebuilt, as there is a "rebuilt" sticker on it, but i wouldn't have a clue when it was rebuilt.
But it certainly isn't a 46 year old part, that never has anything done to it.

RF-4C Phantom 69-370 Zweibrucken, Germany

tan top

i'm no expert  , but think the bendix booster was the only one for discs on a  second generation , the  other one midland & ross  was / is for power drums  !!  A - bodys  though use a midland & ross  for Discs  :scratchchin:
:popcrn:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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Just 6T9 CHGR

Quote from: hemi71x on October 05, 2011, 03:18:53 PM
If your interested in this Bendix booster, it can be purchased from me.

Looks like a C body booster..... :scratchchin:  

Which can be modified to work in a B body by changing the push rod (at an extra cost)

Here are as few "correct" B Body boosters in our classifieds

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,84933.0.html

Chris' '69 Charger R/T


UFO

What is this booster?
Bendix w/drums?
Obviously a drum brake car.

Chatt69chgr

hemi71X posted a booster out of a 65  that sure looks like the same as fits a 68 chgr.  Would need to be rebuilt again to have the correct push rod installed.  Cost is something like $110 at Prior Brake in TX.  There is a plastic part inside these that is sometimes broken.  If so, they can't rebuild it.  They will tell you if that's the case.  If you buy this one and send it in and they can't rebuild it for this reason then get the core back since you may find another that has good insides but is badly rusted on the outside.  You could mix and match the parts and end up with a nice one.

As I stated earlier,  unless you want to have the correct Bendix booster, you can get a functional equivalent from Cardone that will bolt up and work but won't have the same outward appearance. 

Magnumcharger

I just pulled out my original drum brake booster and put it along side my newest booster, supposedly the one that came in a disc brake equipped 1968 Charger. As you'll see, they are very different, and actually have different bolt patterns to mount them on the firewall.

I'm in the process of working a deal with Wayne (The Ram Man) in Texas for a rebuilt booster, trading these in for credit.
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

hemi71x

Magnumcharger:
If you need some more photo's for picture reference, i just removed this Bendix booster and master cylinder assembly, off a 70 B body, Plymouth Belvedere, disc brake car, last weekend.

RF-4C Phantom 69-370 Zweibrucken, Germany

Magnumcharger

1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

gtx6970

Quote from: Magnumcharger on October 16, 2011, 10:41:57 AM
I just pulled out my original drum brake booster and put it along side my newest booster, supposedly the one that came in a disc brake equipped 1968 Charger. As you'll see, they are very different, and actually have different bolt patterns to mount them on the firewall.

I'm in the process of working a deal with Wayne (The Ram Man) in Texas for a rebuilt booster, trading these in for credit.

The one on the bottom right( in gloss black) is a drum brake booster someone added a disc master cylinder

Here is an original 67-70 B-body disc master cylinder if you need reference pics

gtx6970


gtx6970

comparison between the 2