With the long overdue release of, "Star Wars", on blu-ray, a poll.....>>>>>

[Johnny SixPack]

I'm not a fan of the constant changing Lucas has wrought upon the original trilogy, but I know he owns the right, and he can do as he pleases.

Just wondering what others here think.

Not even going to go into the prequel trilogy and emo-Vader, or Jar-Jar, or Ninja-Yoda.  

Why, cause that's another poll.    


Johnny

[chargerboy69]

I am ready to see the series on Blu Ray.

There are a few things I like about the re-released  versions and things I do not.  For the most part Empire is just fine, I do not feel he screwed it up at all.  A New Hope he added that stupid Jabba scene at  Docking Bay 94 which sucks.  Other than that scene, I like A New Hope.  Jedi on the other hand, he should have left alone.  He added that stupid song in Jabbas Palace which totally sucks.  And then he added the celebration on at the end of Jedi, which sucks too.

I also thought replacing Jeremy Bullochs voice with Temuera Morrisons was also not the best thing to do either.

But when you surround yourself with yes-men, you are bound to screw things up.

[Johnny SixPack]

I am ready to see the series on Blu Ray.

There are a few things I like about the re-released  versions and things I do not.  For the most part Empire is just fine, I do not feel he screwed it up at all.  A New Hope he added that stupid Jabba scene at  Docking Bay 94 which sucks.  Other than that scene, I like A New Hope.  Jedi on the other hand, he should have left alone.  He added that stupid song in Jabbas Palace which totally sucks.  And then he added the celebration on at the end of Jedi, which sucks too.

I also thought replacing Jeremy Bullochs voice with Temuera Morrisons was also not the best thing to do either.

But when you surround yourself with yes-men, you are bound to screw things up.

Have you heard about the added Vader scream when he's throwing the Emperor near the end?

Supposed to tie in with Hayden's, "NOOOOOOOOOoooooooo!", when he hears about Padmé's death.

[bull]

Lucas is a one-trick pony who should only conceptualize and stay away from writing and directing. In other words, he's good at coming up with general ideas for stories but the more he's involved in the production the worse it gets. The best movie he's "done" was not directed by him (Empire), which means there apparently was a point in time when he knew his limitations and functioned within them. He should have gotten an F for his thesis, THX1138, he all but ruined Indiana Jones, and had he not been exposed to the genius of classmate Steven Spielberg in college he would probably be selling used cars right now.

That said, I will give him kudos for beating every buck out of that one-trick pony for 34 years straight. It's amazing (and somewhat pathetic) that people just keep handing him money every time he adds four seconds of footage to one of these six movies.

Anyway, in case that doesn't explain my position: no, I don't give a rip about Star Wars on BluRay.

[bull]

I'll give him one more compliment to help offset the lashing above. He does know how to make things look and sound good. I always groan at the things he has his characters say and do but they always look and sound good doing it.

[Darkman]

I am ready to see the series on Blu Ray.

There are a few things I like about the re-released  versions and things I do not.  For the most part Empire is just fine, I do not feel he screwed it up at all.  A New Hope he added that stupid Jabba scene at  Docking Bay 94 which sucks.  Other than that scene, I like A New Hope.  Jedi on the other hand, he should have left alone. He added that stupid song in Jabbas Palace which totally sucks.  And then he added the celebration on at the end of Jedi, which sucks too.

I also thought replacing Jeremy Bullochs voice with Temuera Morrisons was also not the best thing to do either.

But when you surround yourself with yes-men, you are bound to screw things up.

with the highlighted parts. I do like the effects with the explosions and some of the added creatures and stormtroopers when they discovered the "life pod had droids in them"

[chargerboy69]

I am ready to see the series on Blu Ray.

There are a few things I like about the re-released  versions and things I do not.  For the most part Empire is just fine, I do not feel he screwed it up at all.  A New Hope he added that stupid Jabba scene at  Docking Bay 94 which sucks.  Other than that scene, I like A New Hope.  Jedi on the other hand, he should have left alone.  He added that stupid song in Jabbas Palace which totally sucks.  And then he added the celebration on at the end of Jedi, which sucks too.

I also thought replacing Jeremy Bullochs voice with Temuera Morrisons was also not the best thing to do either.

But when you surround yourself with yes-men, you are bound to screw things up.

Have you heard about the added Vader scream when he's throwing the Emperor near the end?

Supposed to tie in with Hayden's, "NOOOOOOOOOoooooooo!", when he hears about Padmé's death.

I heard that too. 

I can see him releasing the originals on Blu- Ray in another year or two.  Just another way to keep making money on the same series.

[Chryco Psycho]

I cannot expess how little I care   

[kab69440]

I think The Federation should send a small fleet of Galaxy X battle cruisers through a wormhole, and back in time to whatever galaxy Star Wars took place in. Once they have obliterated everything there, none of us will have to worry about the story or how it keeps changing. The rip in the Space/ Time Continuum can be repaired forever with a calculated burst of anti-matter from the warp drive's core. Life can then go on, and we can go back to our cars.

[68RT4ME]

I think The Federation should send a small fleet of Galaxy X battle cruisers through a wormhole, and back in time to whatever galaxy Star Wars took place in. Once they have obliterated everything there, none of us will have to worry about the story or how it keeps changing. The rip in the Space/ Time Continuum can be repaired forever with a calculated burst of anti-matter from the warp drive's core. Life can then go on, and we can go back to our cars.

That is all very true but, considering that Scotty has now passed away, who would be able to Aline the Dilithium Chrystals properly enough to create that anti-matter burst? Yes I know Gordi is a top notch engineer but he's not in the same league as Scotty and I don't have the same confidence in him to be able to pull it off.

[Mike DC]

Lucas is a one-trick pony who should only conceptualize and stay away from writing and directing. In other words, he's good at coming up with general ideas for stories but the more he's involved in the production the worse it gets. The best movie he's "done" was not directed by him (Empire), which means there apparently was a point in time when he knew his limitations and functioned within them. He should have gotten an F for his thesis, THX1138, he all but ruined Indiana Jones, and had he not been exposed to the genius of classmate Steven Spielberg in college he would probably be selling used cars right now.

That said, I will give him kudos for beating every buck out of that one-trick pony for 34 years straight. It's amazing (and somewhat pathetic) that people just keep handing him money every time he adds four seconds of footage to one of these six movies.

Anyway, in case that doesn't explain my position: no, I don't give a rip about Star Wars on BluRay. angel

I agree with most of the rant except the part about people handing him money every time he adds four seconds of footage to the movies.  


People bitch about Lucas selling lots of different versions of his movies but the truth is he doesn't.  He really hasn't done anything abnormal for any other movie series in the industry.  There are probably just as many total versions & formats of "E.T." for sale as there are of "Star Wars" but Spielberg doesn't get any real blowback over it.  There are probably even more cuts of "Close Encounters" but it doesn't raise any eyebrows.  Same with "Bladerunner" and a bunch of others.  


People remember that Lucas releases another copy of his movies with each new format, while conveniently forgetting that so does every other franchise in Hollywood.  And people also forget that they bitch just as loudly every time he doesn't release something on a new format.

[Brock Samson]

i was never a star wars geek, but i do wish someone would release the edited 20 minutes of 2001.

[bull]

I agree with most of the rant except the part about people handing him money every time he adds four seconds of footage to the movies.  


People bitch about Lucas selling lots of different versions of his movies but the truth is he doesn't.  He really hasn't done anything abnormal for any other movie series in the industry.  There are probably just as many total versions & formats of "E.T." for sale as there are of "Star Wars" but Spielberg doesn't get any real blowback over it.  There are probably even more cuts of "Close Encounters" but it doesn't raise any eyebrows.  Same with "Bladerunner" and a bunch of others.  


People remember that Lucas releases another copy of his movies with each new format, while conveniently forgetting that so does every other franchise in Hollywood.  And people also forget that they bitch just as loudly every time he doesn't release something on a new format.

I disagree. Other directors/producers spread it around a little with different stories but Lucas seems to do nothing but revise Star Wars. There was a 20th Anniversary ET release but that's the only one I'm aware of. Close Encounters? Yea, there are 3-4 versions of that one floating around if you count the Collector's Edition and the BluRay release. Meanwhile, Lucas' Star Wars re-release and expanded universe list looks pretty long to me:

First off there's the original trilogy, then the prequel trilogy, then came the pre-special edition of episodes 4 and 5, then came the original trilogy special edition (which made a theatrical run followed by a video release), then the Star Wars DVD box set, the special BluRay release (which features several new alterations) and Lucas has announced a yet-to-come 3D version of all six films. Remember, this is all being done to 3 or 6 movies at a time, not just one. Also, I don't know if you want to count the following or not (I do) but there have been several made-for-TV specials including the Star Wars Holiday Special, Caravan of Courage: An Ewok Adventure, Ewoks: The Battle for Endor, The Great Heep, Star Wars: The Clone Wars and Lego Star Wars: The Quest for R2-D2.

Let's not forget all the animated Star Wars TV shows such as Star Wars: Droids, Star Wars: Ewoks, Star Wars: Clone Wars, a continuation of the previous with the word "The" added called Star Wars: The Clone Wars, and apparently there's going to be an animated comedy Star Wars show that has yet to be named.

And of course there are hundreds of books, comic books and games too. You'd think the guy would get tired of himself.

[kab69440]

I think The Federation should send a small fleet of Galaxy X battle cruisers through a wormhole, and back in time to whatever galaxy Star Wars took place in. Once they have obliterated everything there, none of us will have to worry about the story or how it keeps changing. The rip in the Space/ Time Continuum can be repaired forever with a calculated burst of anti-matter from the warp drive's core. Life can then go on, and we can go back to our cars.

That is all very true but, considering that Scotty has now passed away, who would be able to Aline the Dilithium Chrystals properly enough to create that anti-matter burst? Yes I know Gordi is a top notch engineer but he's not in the same league as Scotty and I don't have the same confidence in him to be able to pull it off.

LaForge is THE MAN!  Always there with with a solution to whatever problem Riker has barrelled(sp?) them headlong into.(Were I a Starfleet Admiral, that clown would be cleaning latrines with a 20th Century toothbrush.) Even if the job is over his head(doubt it...) he still has Lieutenant Commander Data and Acting Ensign Crusher to assist him.

[Mike DC]

I disagree. Other directors/producers spread it around a little with different stories but Lucas seems to do nothing but revise Star Wars. There was a 20th Anniversary ET release but that's the only one I'm aware of. Close Encounters? Yea, there are 3-4 versions of that one floating around if you count the Collector's Edition and the BluRay release. Meanwhile, Lucas' Star Wars re-release and expanded universe list looks pretty long to me:

First off there's the original trilogy, then the prequel trilogy, then came the pre-special edition of episodes 4 and 5, then came the original trilogy special edition (which made a theatrical run followed by a video release), then the Star Wars DVD box set, the special BluRay release (which features several new alterations) and Lucas has announced a yet-to-come 3D version of all six films. Remember, this is all being done to 3 or 6 movies at a time, not just one. Also, I don't know if you want to count the following or not (I do) but there have been several made-for-TV specials including the Star Wars Holiday Special, Caravan of Courage: An Ewok Adventure, Ewoks: The Battle for Endor, The Great Heep, Star Wars: The Clone Wars and Lego Star Wars: The Quest for R2-D2.

Let's not forget all the animated Star Wars TV shows such as Star Wars: Droids, Star Wars: Ewoks, Star Wars: Clone Wars, a continuation of the previous with the word "The" added called Star Wars: The Clone Wars, and apparently there's going to be an animated comedy Star Wars show that has yet to be named.

And of course there are hundreds of books, comic books and games too. You'd think the guy would get tired of himself.

If you wanna argue that Lucas has overdone the number of "Star Wars" productions in general, then I would agree. But I have to defend him when people complain that he releases too many different formats & versions of his movies.   Most other artists could do the same constant reworking of a classic piece without getting picked on like Lucas.  

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Lucas doesn't increase the number of versions for sale each time he makes a change.  He may add 4 seconds of film each time, but he doesn't do another advertising campaign touting another 4 seconds.  You finally hear that something else has been tweaked when the stuff hits the shelves and the fanboys start talking about it on the net.  


There are tons of musicians that re-release their classic albums every time a new format comes out.  Very often, the are still tweaking the mixes & audio on those decades-old recordings with each new format release.  But people generally don't bitch about it like they do at George Lucas.  People don't always accuse these artists of milking their stuff for a buck every time they re-release their albums for a new format and there's a few minor changes.  


When Lucas finally released the original 1970's versions of "Star Wars" on DVD, they were packaged with the new CGI'd & original versions in the same purchase (and the price was consistent with buying just one movie, not two.)  The original versions of "Star Wars" being released on DVD doesn't seem like a cash grab as much as a chronic public outcry finally being addressed.

As for the 3-D versions  . . .  well, once again, what's different from any other filmmaker?  James Cameron is doing the same thing with "Titanic" for 2012.  People will call that a cash grab too but so what?  Titanic (and "Star Wars") were last in theaters almost 15 years ago.  The target demographic of Hollywood is only 14 years old.  Would you think a 1967 movie was "just in theaters recently" if it was re-released, heavily reworked, in the early 1980s? 

[bull]

Well, again, all those artists you mentioned do not camp on one story/song/whatever for their entire careers. You don't see 6 Titanic animated TV shows, or a Titanic Christmas special, etc. Cameron and most everybody else in the business moves on to do on other things and create a 'body of work' rather than continually rehash, re-release, redo and revisit every possible angle of a single storyline that can be explored. Speaking of Cameron, here's a guy who could probably have made a career out of the Alien saga but he did one sequel and handed it off to work on other stuff. Maybe he released an Aliens special edition, I don't know but that's the point. He moved on to other things so if an Aliens special edition exists it is not his only gig. But hey, Lucas has made a great living squeezing the life out of Star Wars and thousands of people keep getting excited about it (thus this thread) and keep handing him money while the rest of us groan. I'd probably do the same thing if I could, although I'd like to think I'd explore other venues eventually. This is why I consider him a one-trick pony. Other than collaborate on, and essential decimate, the Indiana Jones saga, Lucas has done next to nothing but work on more Star Wars unless you count 'Howard the Duck,' 'More American Graffiti' and a few other lemons.

[Brock Lee]

If George Lucas continues to change Star Wars at this rate in the year 2028 it will just become Spaceballs.

[69_500]

Either way I can say that I'll be buying it when it comes out. I have the original 3 (episodes 4-6) on VHS still. Then all 6 episodes on DVD when they came out in and now I'll get them on blu-ray too. Like te movies and so does my 7 year old son.

[ACUDANUT]

I cannot expess how little I care   

X2

[ACUDANUT]

I'm waiting for the "Brady Bunch". 

[Mike DC]

Well, again, all those artists you mentioned do not camp on one story/song/whatever for their entire careers. You don't see 6 Titanic animated TV shows, or a Titanic Christmas special, etc. Cameron and most everybody else in the business moves on to do on other things and create a 'body of work' rather than continually rehash, re-release, redo and revisit every possible angle of a single storyline that can be explored. Speaking of Cameron, here's a guy who could probably have made a career out of the Alien saga but he did one sequel and handed it off to work on other stuff. Maybe he released an Aliens special edition, I don't know but that's the point. He moved on to other things so if an Aliens special edition exists it is not his only gig. But hey, Lucas has made a great living squeezing the life out of Star Wars and thousands of people keep getting excited about it (thus this thread) and keep handing him money while the rest of us groan. I'd probably do the same thing if I could, although I'd like to think I'd explore other venues eventually. This is why I consider him a one-trick pony. Other than collaborate on, and essential decimate, the Indiana Jones saga, Lucas has done next to nothing but work on more Star Wars unless you count 'Howard the Duck,' 'More American Graffiti' and a few other lemons.

I don't disagree with most of this.  But at the same time, Sci-Fi stuff in the huge scope of "Star Wars" is more suited to continuing shows than something like "Alien" franchise.  SW functions as much like a fantasy franchise as sci-fi.  Fantasy franchises are generally branched out into more productions when they are popular.  In this sense SW is one of top (maybe THE top?) fantasy franchise in modern times.  I think SW is bigger in scope that "Star Trek" and that franchise has withstood a helluva lot of productions for decades. 

What else can you do with Titanic after the boat sinks? 

Love it, hate it, tired of it . . .  "Star Wars" is here to stay.  I will always keep copies of the 1977-83 movies on my shelf as the formats change.

[bull]

Well, again, all those artists you mentioned do not camp on one story/song/whatever for their entire careers. You don't see 6 Titanic animated TV shows, or a Titanic Christmas special, etc. Cameron and most everybody else in the business moves on to do on other things and create a 'body of work' rather than continually rehash, re-release, redo and revisit every possible angle of a single storyline that can be explored. Speaking of Cameron, here's a guy who could probably have made a career out of the Alien saga but he did one sequel and handed it off to work on other stuff. Maybe he released an Aliens special edition, I don't know but that's the point. He moved on to other things so if an Aliens special edition exists it is not his only gig. But hey, Lucas has made a great living squeezing the life out of Star Wars and thousands of people keep getting excited about it (thus this thread) and keep handing him money while the rest of us groan. I'd probably do the same thing if I could, although I'd like to think I'd explore other venues eventually. This is why I consider him a one-trick pony. Other than collaborate on, and essential decimate, the Indiana Jones saga, Lucas has done next to nothing but work on more Star Wars unless you count 'Howard the Duck,' 'More American Graffiti' and a few other lemons.

I don't disagree with most of this.  But at the same time, Sci-Fi stuff in the huge scope of "Star Wars" is more suited to continuing shows than something like "Alien" franchise.  SW functions as much like a fantasy franchise as sci-fi.  Fantasy franchises are generally branched out into more productions when they are popular.  In this sense SW is one of top (maybe THE top?) fantasy franchise in modern times.  I think SW is bigger in scope that "Star Trek" and that franchise has withstood a helluva lot of productions for decades. 

What else can you do with Titanic after the boat sinks? 

Love it, hate it, tired of it . . .  "Star Wars" is here to stay.  I will always keep copies of the 1977-83 movies on my shelf as the formats change.

Yes and no about the Aliens thing. It has gone on without Cameron and Ridley Scott to two other sequels and it finally merged with Predator. There have comics books and whatnot too. But you see my point, that Scott and Cameron moved on but Aliens kept going. Roddenberry kept pushing Star Trek too and it has become its own world so in a sense he had a similar outlook. But he did "V" I believe and maybe some other stuff. Similarly, I got tired of his presence in Star Trek because he was actually holding it back. No disrespect to him but now that he's gone Star Trek has improved greatly. I often wonder how much better Star Wars would be without Lucas. Concepts only, George. No directing or writing please.