hurst mechanism question

[nelson_audet]

i would like to know if the hurst mechanism is the same for the 4 speed 1969 charger and the 1970 charger. if i want to install pistol grip on my 69 charger, do i must change the hurst shifter mechanism

thx

[resq302]

I might be wrong but I am almost positive that they are.  They both use the bolt in type handle.

[70sixpkrt]

The hurst mechanism in my 70 Charger is a slip in.

[BIGBLCK11]

They are different.  I referenced the shifters in your other thread on this.  The three shifter fingers are longer.  You can put the handle in and see, you fingers will be up against the dash.

[nelson_audet]

They are different.  I referenced the shifters in your other thread on this.  The three shifter fingers are longer.  You can put the handle in and see, you fingers will be up against the dash.

ok this is the only problem with my finger?  but the shifter pistol grip can be atach to my 69 hurst mechanism? the principe are the same?
thx

ps : i talk to the guy who sold the car to me and he bought a brand new mechanism hurst in 2006 ...

[Chryco Psycho]

You can narrow the handle a little slide it into the shifter & drill a hole where the dimple is & insert a bolt through the handle to retain it in the shifter

[BIGBLCK11]

If the shifter mechanism was from 2006, then it would be the bolt-in type.  Like Chryco Psycho said, you can alter a slip-in handle if you have one or just buy a bolt-in.  I am pretty sure it will still go into gear, you just have to palm it and watch your fingers.  You will need the handle either way, unless you opt not to do it.  So, you could just try it if you have one.  Worst case scenario, you have to buy the correct shifter mechanism and still use that handle.  Even if it will shift OK, what would be the point, you would have to hold on to the shifter arm at a lower point or palm it, which wouldn't be great to drive all the time IMO.

[nelson_audet]

yep. i have asked my question to a guy on ebay who sell all the hurst stuff.. and his answer is the same... the pistol grip will fit on my mechanism but i must check my hand ... i will perhaps knock it on the dash in 1 and 3 gear...anyway i will try it when i will receive the pistol grip in arround 2 week... if it doesn t work good, i will perhaps buy the mechanism for 70 pistol grip...

for change the mechanism , i must remove the tranny from the car? or it can be change on the car via the hole in the floor?

[BIGBLCK11]

for change the mechanism , i must remove the tranny from the car? or it can be change on the car via the hole in the floor?

You can change the handle from the top via the hole.  You do not have to remove the tranny to swap the mechanism, but you will need to do it from underneath the car.  You will also be adjusting the linkage to the tranny underneath at that point.  Good luck.

[nelson_audet]

ok thanks a lot! i will check if the pistol grip fit on my mechanism.. and if the pistol grip don t fit, i will perhaps leave my car for this year with the corect 69 shifter... and wait until next year for make the convertion . anyway it will probably fit but i will perhaps knock my finger if i shift too aggressive

[John_Kunkel]

The '70 B body Hurst mechanism is a one-year-only and has a shorter throw than the '68-'69. I put a '70 B body pistol-grip handle in my '68 RR (on the left in the pic below) and my knuckles could contact the dash on a hard 2-3 shift....changing to the '70 mechanism (on the right in the pic below) gave lots of clearance.

[nelson_audet]

The '70 B body Hurst mechanism is a one-year-only and has a shorter throw than the '68-'69. I put a '70 B body pistol-grip handle in my '68 RR (on the left in the pic below) and my knuckles could contact the dash on a hard 2-3 shift....changing to the '70 mechanism (on the right in the pic below) gave lots of clearance.

thanks a lot for your post..

ok so your finger knock on the dash but you have fixed ,without modification, the pistol grip on your 68 mecanism. ? 

[John_Kunkel]

Yes, the pistol-grip handle plugs into the '68-'69 mechanism without modification.

[nelson_audet]

finaly i have checked and i have a bolt in mecanisme on my car....

the pistol grip reproduction look like to have 2 hole for fit in the bolt in system

[nelson_audet]

finaly i have installed my pistol grip into my bolt on mecanism. But i knock the shifter on the console plate when i shift the 4th gear and the second gear. and when i shift the first gear, some time because of the weight of the shifter, it goes to neutral.....

so for the look it is number 1 !!!!! for the driving feeling it is 0