Is the facelifted new Charger selling quicker than the 06 ones?

[Ghoste]

It seems to me like I see the newest version all over the place and when the first of the sedan versions came out I never saw them at all for a long time after they were out.  Has anyone else experienced this?  When I never saw the 06 around I thought it could have been regional and this could be the same.  I'm also now wondering though if the first time out the car just looked so generic and boring to me that I couldn't pick it out from all the other Euro sedan wannabe's.  Maybe the facelift added some distinction to the car to set it apart?

[WhiteLightninn]

The new Charger looks very good, so i wouldn't be surprised if they were selling

[Kern Dog]

I hope that they are selling well. They look great and the engineering behind them is improving. The new Durango looks great too. That front end styling is the best that they have ever done.

[1969chargerrtse]

I hope that they are selling well. They look great and the engineering behind them is improving. The new Durango looks great too. That front end styling is the best that they have ever done.

[Brock Samson]

At ALLPAR they are saying that Availability is somewhat limited for the refreshed models i've seen a half Doz. 
I really like that they finally got around to refreshing the LXs.

[MRCHARGER]

The new Charger does not spend much time on the lots here in metro-Detroit. One day there are 3 on the lot, then 2 days later they're gone. I'm sure it varies depending on where you live, but they seem to be very popular. Although I, like many, would love for it to have been a 2 door, I understand the new Charger completely. I had an 08 with a Hemi and it is everything a Charger should be with 2 exceptions. It is designed so well at this point that you don't even notice the extra pair of doors. In the modern era there has to be a cool family sedan with an attitude (like the original) and the '11 Charger is it. My kids had the same affection for the 08 that I have for my 68. As the Chargers of days gone by become unobtanium for today's youth the new Charger will become their car of passion. "The dream car that had to be built" lives on and this latest effort is far more successful than the ones in the late 70's and mid 80's.

[Old Tired Rebel]

 Are they going to end the Charger line?

[Silver R/T]

If you like Evo 8 front end go for it

[Rolling_Thunder]

I actually like the new styling - the 300 & 200s especially.

[Iron Chef]

I hope that they are selling well. They look great and the engineering behind them is improving. The new Durango looks great too. That front end styling is the best that they have ever done.

I bought a 2011 Durango R/T, fully loaded in Blackberry.  Absolutely outstanding.  The fit and finish is beautiful, interior super comfortable and the 5.7 Hemi gives it enough power to pull respectively and get out of its own way.  It's my daily driver.  All the chrome trim is...get this...REAL METAL...not chromed plastic.  If this is what being owned by an Italian company means, Chrysler is in good shape.  Oh...and I'm averaging 20MPG. 

My new ride:

[Kern Dog]

I feel wierd writing this, but that Durango kicks ass! Nice choice. I'm going to keep badgering the wife once the CRV craps out!

[UH60L]

I hope that they are selling well. They look great and the engineering behind them is improving. The new Durango looks great too. That front end styling is the best that they have ever done.

So, you like the RAM truck front end then, eh?  Sorry, but the two biggest things still wrong with the '11 sedan are:

1: it's a sedan

2: the front end looks like a truck, and not a pretty truck.....

[daveco]

That Durango really looks nice

[Iron Chef]

I feel wierd writing this, but that Durango kicks ass! Nice choice. I'm going to keep badgering the wife once the CRV craps out!

Why feel weird?  A nice looking vehicle is a nice looking vehicle no matter what it is.  Dodge has done its homework with this one.  Keep bugging the wife...you'll be glad you did.

That Durango really looks nice

Thanks!  The only things I've done to it are tinted the windows, cut off the back resonators and put 4" Magnaflow tips on it.  Gives it a nice growl.  Maybe some wheels and tires down the road, but so far I'm very pleased.  The back-up camera and adaptive cruise control are awesome options.

[morepower]

the new ones deffinately look better so i wouldnt be suprised to hear they are selling better. im still not satisfied with them but at least they tried to change them some.

[mauve66]

i have yet to see one not in a movie

and i don't see any chrome on that durango............

[stripedelete]

I have also not seen a new Durango in the wild.  They look good.  They seemed to have toned down the whole cartoon / characterture (sp?)  look in the entire line-up.

(which will make the lessen the need to refresh the car two days after introduction)

[morepower]

yeah that durango doesnt look half bad. and its not as big as the previous model either. I give it a thumb up

[64dartgt]

There is a kit car outfit that makes body panels you bond on to make a camaro look like a 57 Chevy (Belaro) or a T-bird look like a 40's Ford.  Maybe they can make some panels to make the front of the new Charger look like a 69!  The back end looks nice enough already.

Did anyone really like the old Chrysler 300 grill with the big cross on it enough to want it brought back to be the face of every vehicle in the line up for twenty years?   

[Brock Samson]

that grill is on the way out... the trucks (Rams) will keep it though...

[Kern Dog]

Some say that the 2011 Charger front end looks like a Catfish!
I like the look. Yeah, I also like the look of the Ram truck line. I have owned a 2002, a 2006 and a 2007.

[bill440rt]

The '11's definitely have some upgrades, especially with the interior & creature comforts.
But, I might be one of the few that actually like the previous models compared to the '11's.

[elanmars]

I think this doesn't look bad-

[Brock Samson]

 The proportions are certainly better i like that for sure.. but the chance of DODGE selling both a two door chally and a two door charger are zilch,.. put another way, if you had to choose which two door would be sold - would you rather they keep and update the Challenger or introduce a new Two-door Charger?..   

[UH60L]

The proportions are certainly better i like that for sure.. but the chance of DODGE selling both a two door chally and a two door charger are zilch,.. put another way, if you had to choose which two door would be sold - would you rather they keep and update the Challenger or introduce a new Two-door Charger?..   

Having driven a new challenger and loved every minute of it, I would definitely choose a two door charger.  While I love the new challenger (they did a great job with it), challengers were never my thing.  I always wanted a '68 or '69 charger, and finally got a '69.  I would buy a modern two door retro charger faster than a guy on here will slam you for suggesting they build one, and that's pretty darn fast......   

Of course, it couldn't JUST be a two door version of what the '11 car looks like, it would have to have a '68 or '69 front end, proper dual scallops on the doors, be longer so they could put the front side markers on the fenders, and among other things, it would have to be offered in auto or manual tranny.  (heck, I'd even like a wing window, call me crazy....)

[stripedelete]

The proportions are certainly better i like that for sure.. but the chance of DODGE selling both a two door chally and a two door charger are zilch,.. put another way, if you had to choose which two door would be sold - would you rather they keep and update the Challenger or introduce a new Two-door Charger?..   

Having driven a new challenger and loved every minute of it, I would definitely choose a two door charger.  While I love the new challenger (they did a great job with it), challengers were never my thing.  I always wanted a '68 or '69 charger, and finally got a '69.  I would buy a modern two door retro charger faster than a guy on here will slam you for suggesting they build one, and that's pretty darn fast......   

Of course, it couldn't JUST be a two door version of what the '11 car looks like, it would have to have a '68 or '69 front end, proper dual scallops on the doors, be longer so they could put the front side markers on the fenders, and among other things, it would have to be offered in auto or manual tranny.  (heck, I'd even like a wing window, call me crazy....)

But if you were the guy that made the decision to build both at the same time, you would find yourself in the unemployement line. 
 

[TheGhost]

Wouldn't mind picking up an '11 Rallye in a couple of years, that's for sure.  Local dealers can't keep the new Chargers on the lots.

[UH60L]

The proportions are certainly better i like that for sure.. but the chance of DODGE selling both a two door chally and a two door charger are zilch,.. put another way, if you had to choose which two door would be sold - would you rather they keep and update the Challenger or introduce a new Two-door Charger?..   

Having driven a new challenger and loved every minute of it, I would definitely choose a two door charger.  While I love the new challenger (they did a great job with it), challengers were never my thing.  I always wanted a '68 or '69 charger, and finally got a '69.  I would buy a modern two door retro charger faster than a guy on here will slam you for suggesting they build one, and that's pretty darn fast......   

Of course, it couldn't JUST be a two door version of what the '11 car looks like, it would have to have a '68 or '69 front end, proper dual scallops on the doors, be longer so they could put the front side markers on the fenders, and among other things, it would have to be offered in auto or manual tranny.  (heck, I'd even like a wing window, call me crazy....)

But if you were the guy that made the decision to build both at the same time, you would find yourself in the unemployement line. 
 

You'll notice that the question I responded to was: If you ahd to choose between the current challenger or a new 2 door charger....NOT both at the same time, nor did I mention that at all.

[stripedelete]

The proportions are certainly better i like that for sure.. but the chance of DODGE selling both a two door chally and a two door charger are zilch,.. put another way, if you had to choose which two door would be sold - would you rather they keep and update the Challenger or introduce a new Two-door Charger?..   

Having driven a new challenger and loved every minute of it, I would definitely choose a two door charger.  While I love the new challenger (they did a great job with it), challengers were never my thing.  I always wanted a '68 or '69 charger, and finally got a '69.  I would buy a modern two door retro charger faster than a guy on here will slam you for suggesting they build one, and that's pretty darn fast......   

Of course, it couldn't JUST be a two door version of what the '11 car looks like, it would have to have a '68 or '69 front end, proper dual scallops on the doors, be longer so they could put the front side markers on the fenders, and among other things, it would have to be offered in auto or manual tranny.  (heck, I'd even like a wing window, call me crazy....)

But if you were the guy that made the decision to build both at the same time, you would find yourself in the unemployement line. 
 

You'll notice that the question I responded to was: If you ahd to choose between the current challenger or a new 2 door charger....NOT both at the same time, nor did I mention that at all.

Geeez! Lighten up Francis.   You were included in a conversation,  not a personally attacked.   

My point was it would be a bad business decision to make both two doors.   First it would split the Fiat's 2wd retro market share not double it, which your comment reinforces.   Second, it would pretty much double the costs.   In the end making it (2dr charger) is a bad business move.  Which is why you'll never see a 2dr Charger produced.  At least at the same time as a Challenger.  But probably never ( for the reasons Brock points out).

You see? No need to be defensive. We were just three cars guys having a conversation.  This same exchange could have taken place in a waiting room, a car show, or a bus, with strangers, or with friends.   




 

[Rustymuscle]

To reply to the original question, unfortunately no. The newly redesigned and refreshed Chargers are not outselling the previous iterations. According to Detroit News, "Dodge's muscular, all-new Charger has failed to ignite sales with a 17 percent drop in sales for the first six months, including a 15 percent falloff in June."

Frankly, it's because 1) the economy has tanked and nobody is buying much of anything these days, and 2) it looks less "gangsta" so it doesn't have that "urban" appeal.

[Brock Samson]

  that sound like an opinion to me. 

[UH60L]

The proportions are certainly better i like that for sure.. but the chance of DODGE selling both a two door chally and a two door charger are zilch,.. put another way, if you had to choose which two door would be sold - would you rather they keep and update the Challenger or introduce a new Two-door Charger?..   

Having driven a new challenger and loved every minute of it, I would definitely choose a two door charger.  While I love the new challenger (they did a great job with it), challengers were never my thing.  I always wanted a '68 or '69 charger, and finally got a '69.  I would buy a modern two door retro charger faster than a guy on here will slam you for suggesting they build one, and that's pretty darn fast......   

Of course, it couldn't JUST be a two door version of what the '11 car looks like, it would have to have a '68 or '69 front end, proper dual scallops on the doors, be longer so they could put the front side markers on the fenders, and among other things, it would have to be offered in auto or manual tranny.  (heck, I'd even like a wing window, call me crazy....)

But if you were the guy that made the decision to build both at the same time, you would find yourself in the unemployement line. 
 

You'll notice that the question I responded to was: If you ahd to choose between the current challenger or a new 2 door charger....NOT both at the same time, nor did I mention that at all.

Geeez! Lighten up Francis.   You were included in a conversation,  not a personally attacked.   

My point was it would be a bad business decision to make both two doors.   First it would split the Fiat's 2wd retro market share not double it, which your comment reinforces.   Second, it would pretty much double the costs.   In the end making it (2dr charger) is a bad business move.  Which is why you'll never see a 2dr Charger produced.  At least at the same time as a Challenger.  But probably never ( for the reasons Brock points out).

You see? No need to be defensive. We were just three cars guys having a conversation.  This same exchange could have taken place in a waiting room, a car show, or a bus, with strangers, or with friends.   




 

And my point was, I answered a question about selling an apple or an orange, and you keep insisiting that the question I answered had something to do with selling apples and oranges.

I have no reason to "lighten up", and I didn't accuse anyone of anything.  IE, no need to keep stating something that has nothing to do with my original post.

Nothing defensive about it, I was correcting you, because you were, and are, wrong concerning the question at hand.  Nothing personal, you just happen to be incorrect. 

Please read what was asked higher up in the thread, and stop with the "it would be a bad business decision to make both two doors", that was not the question.  Your becoming borderline trollish with this.......

[stripedelete]

The proportions are certainly better i like that for sure.. but the chance of DODGE selling both a two door chally and a two door charger are zilch,.. put another way, if you had to choose which two door would be sold - would you rather they keep and update the Challenger or introduce a new Two-door Charger?..   

Having driven a new challenger and loved every minute of it, I would definitely choose a two door charger.  While I love the new challenger (they did a great job with it), challengers were never my thing.  I always wanted a '68 or '69 charger, and finally got a '69.  I would buy a modern two door retro charger faster than a guy on here will slam you for suggesting they build one, and that's pretty darn fast......   

Of course, it couldn't JUST be a two door version of what the '11 car looks like, it would have to have a '68 or '69 front end, proper dual scallops on the doors, be longer so they could put the front side markers on the fenders, and among other things, it would have to be offered in auto or manual tranny.  (heck, I'd even like a wing window, call me crazy....)

But if you were the guy that made the decision to build both at the same time, you would find yourself in the unemployement line. 
 

You'll notice that the question I responded to was: If you ahd to choose between the current challenger or a new 2 door charger....NOT both at the same time, nor did I mention that at all.

Geeez! Lighten up Francis.   You were included in a conversation,  not a personally attacked.   

My point was it would be a bad business decision to make both two doors.   First it would split the Fiat's 2wd retro market share not double it, which your comment reinforces.   Second, it would pretty much double the costs.   In the end making it (2dr charger) is a bad business move.  Which is why you'll never see a 2dr Charger produced.  At least at the same time as a Challenger.  But probably never ( for the reasons Brock points out).

You see? No need to be defensive. We were just three cars guys having a conversation.  This same exchange could have taken place in a waiting room, a car show, or a bus, with strangers, or with friends.   




 

And my point was, I answered a question about selling an apple or an orange, and you keep insisiting that the question I answered had something to do with selling apples and oranges.

I have no reason to "lighten up", and I didn't accuse anyone of anything.  IE, no need to keep stating something that has nothing to do with my original post.

Nothing defensive about it, I was correcting you, because you were, and are, wrong concerning the question at hand.  Nothing personal, you just happen to be incorrect. 

Please read what was asked higher up in the thread, and stop with the "it would be a bad business decision to make both two doors", that was not the question.  Your becoming borderline trollish with this.......

OK

[64dartgt]

If I had a pressing need for a car instead of a truck I'd really have to look hard at the new Charger.  I love the new back end and the side treatment...not thrilled about the grill.   If I needed a car it would be becuase my commmute went from 4 miles to 30 and I would need a winter friendly car.  An orange hemi Charger with AWD would suit me nicely.  If it wasn't for the snow I would own a new Challenger already, but I would never get up the hill I live on in the snow.  On second thought...a hemi AWD Charger only gets 15/23 mpg...my 2006 Tundra gets 13/16...so perhaps it wouldn't be worth the change.  An Avenger would be a better option at nearly 30pmg.  I rented one once.  It is a pretty nice car.  It only had a 4 in it though.  The 6 has 283 hp and gets 29mpg.   Too bad they lost the AWD option it seems.  They also have weird new marketing names....Lux...heat...mainstreet and express...WTF?

[ACUDANUT]

Fiat, owning Chrysler makes me want to but a Ford.

[mauve66]

i don't care who owns them, i understand the global economic thing, but at least make something i want and can afford