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'69 500 and '70 500 differences

Started by cavemanno1, July 29, 2011, 03:09:06 PM

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cavemanno1

can someone clear this for me?
how come the '70 500 has got a normal '70 grill and back window and the '69 500 has got a coronet grill and flash back window?
i know the '69 500 for improving aerodynamics but the '70 is like the other '70s!
i saw a '70 500 with 383!i thought they came with a 440 or hemi in '69!

thanks,

Peter

Sublime/Sixpack

The 500 badge in 1970 didn't mean much at all, just a trim option I believe. Mopar had the 1969 Daytona and 1970 SuperBird for racing.
1970 Sublime R/T, 440 Six Pack, Four speed, Super Track Pak

Mike DC

   
Yes, the 1969 and 1970 "500" models were essentially unrelated. 


The 1969 car was a very limited edition car they made just to legalize a set of body modifications for NASCAR racing.  There were only a few hundred of these cars ever produced for the dealerships to sell as street cars.  They had heavy body modifications to the rear window and front end.  These rare cars are worth a mint today.  (The winged 1969 Charger Daytonas were made a few months later in a similar way to the Charger 500 program.)


The 1970 "500" was a trim option with only a few minor deviations from the base model 1970 Charger.  There's nothing wrong with it, but it does not radically alter & increase the value of the car like it does for a '69. 


Brock Samson

 
Quote from: cavemanno1 on July 29, 2011, 03:09:06 PM
can someone clear this for me?
how come the '70 500 has got a normal '70 grill and back window and the '69 500 has got a coronet grill and flash back window?
i know the '69 500 for improving aerodynamics but the '70 is like the other '70s!
i saw a '70 500 with 383!i thought they came with a 440 or hemi in '69!

thanks,

Peter



 
   Perhaps they were "banking" on the reputation of the '69 500 to help burnish sales.
I know - strange isn't it that for the first half of '69 a 500 was the NASCAR super speedway streamliner and in '70 it's a basic appearance group.

The 500 in '70 could be had up to a 383 with the duals and four barrel carb and a fourspeed, Even the Special Edition Package but it wasn't ever Avail. with the 440 magnum,  SIX-PACK or the 426 HEMI only Avail. on the R/Ts.
There were a lot of inconsistencies with the numbers of '69 500 and DAYTONAs produced, Originally the '69 500 was supposed to be only avail. with the HEMI but the 440 Magnums were offered. I imagine when they added the Daytona pieces late in the '69 season a lot of Hocus Pocus was going on with the Production numbers.

Seem product planning got a hold of the "500" name that was so special in '69 and decided to use it.

Kern Dog

My 70 Charger left the factory as a 500 model. It was a 318 model with bucket seats, a center console and deluxe hubcaps.
Looking back, the 500 model was a trim option on a few other models including the Polara and Coronet. The 1969 Charger 500 was a one year, one model package with regards ONLY to achieve higher racing speeds through improved aerodynamics. The 69 500 cars started out as R/T cars and were converted offsite at the Creative Industries facility. The 70 Charger 500 was not based on a performance model, so these cars could have been equipped with a 225 slant six, a 318 2 barrel, a 383 2 barrel or a 383 4 barrel. The 440-4, 440 six pack and Hemi were not available in a 70 Charger 500. Those engines were reserved for the R/T.

cavemanno1

thanks a lot guys!it was bugging me for a while!

Peter