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Why the Bad Vibes?

Started by Brock Samson, July 29, 2011, 01:57:59 PM

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Brock Samson

 OK - I know I'm not the only one to notice a bunch of mean and ill tempered threads and responses to threads. Used to just be general lee friendly helpful around here and welcoming - sometimes with gentle humor and encouragement.

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MoparManJim

Have you notice I stop posting alot also? Anymore I just lurk around here.. I don't know why. Heck, I don't even post model car updates on here anymore either like used to. I just mostly post on facebook and that is mostly about it. heck, I didn't even start a charger thread on here for my own charger in the Charger area for when I started to work on mine afew weeks back. I wanted to start one BUT just couldn't get myself to starting a thread though on here.

68X426

Quote from: Brock Samson on July 29, 2011, 01:57:59 PM
OK - I know I'm not the only one to notice a bunch of mean and ill tempered threads and responses to threads.

:shruggy: Really? I think this is a happy place.


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1958 Dodge Pick Up, 383, loud
1966 Dodge Van, /6, slow

A383Wing

I go to my "happy place" when I take my pain meds....  :D

Cooter

I would reply to this, but it would only get responses like you mentioned above...(READ: Sarcastic, Bullsh*t, and basically, trying to get a laugh at others expense, type replies)...

Some here don't "NEED" to be on here to Build, understand, or even fabricate things.. They can do it all and only are on here to try and help others...I think if most folks would remember this fact, and post accordingly, there would be less of said threads...
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

Brock Samson

 Well on the good foot,
a new Jeep Gran Cherokee SRT/8 just finished second in the 2011 Bullrun Rally with Robbie Gordon driving between a Nissan GTR and a Merc. AMG...
I'm trying to find a good news wrap up to post..  :shruggy:

ACUDANUT

Maybe no-one is getting laid ? :shruggy: :brickwall: :scratchchin: :rofl: :nana:

Richard Cranium

I am Dr. Remulac

Cooter

" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

learical1

Bruce

Brock Samson


Richard Cranium

I am Dr. Remulac

twodko

Cooterman,

You summed it up very nicely!  :2thumbs:
FLY NAVY/Marine Corps or take the bus!

stripedelete

Quote from: Cooter on July 29, 2011, 06:10:04 PM
I would reply to this, but it would only get responses like you mentioned above...(READ: Sarcastic, Bullsh*t, and basically, trying to get a laugh at others expense, type replies)...

Some here don't "NEED" to be on here to Build, understand, or even fabricate things.. They can do it all and only are on here to try and help others...I think if most folks would remember this fact, and post accordingly, there would be less of said threads...

Or just stop using the "Show unread posts since your last visit" funtion.  This will prevent those actually in "NEED" from seeing  the Off Topic, Humor, and Car Guy Discussion, sections where most of the aforemention posts/threads reside. 

Just something to think about :Twocents:




NHCharger

Quote from: ACUDANUT on July 29, 2011, 06:39:40 PM
Maybe no-one is getting laid ? :shruggy: :brickwall: :scratchchin: :rofl: :nana:

That's my excuse. :lol:

I haven't been on the board for three weeks and this is the first thread I see. Did I miss some thread to thread combat :shruggy:

I think it's a combination of things. Mostly all the bad news on tv these days can wear you down physically and mentally. That's why I hide in my shop and listen to Sabbath and Deep Purple while working on my cars.
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resq302

I think it is everyones nerves at end due to the economy and possibility of people losing jobs, etc.  I just took Bluto's (John Belushi) advise from Animal House and "start drinking.....HEAVILY".  Evary theng iz guuud now!   :smilielol:   Aww crap.... Im outta beer.
Brian
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1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

RallyeMike

QuoteSome here don't "NEED" to be on here to Build, understand, or even fabricate things.. They can do it all and only are on here to try and help others...I think if most folks would remember this fact, and post accordingly, there would be less of said threads...

Honestly, I don't think people not remembering that selfless smart guys are here to help everyone has anything to do with bad vibes, though it may be part of what I think the overall issue is: Most of the problem is when people don't respect others opinions, reactively post in negative way, and that pretty much lights the fuse.

That, and all the dead people threads. Talk about bad vibes!
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snakecharmer777

im a lurker from way back i do appreciate the info but try not to post because there is an underlying air of supremecy from the old timers just giving my 2 cents on what someone else noted

resq302

I try to help out when I can.  I have only posted on death notice because I figured it pertained to our chargers and that was used in a TV series.  Even for the one thread I posted about his death, I got ragged on because I used the "won't be down for breakfast" that everyone was "accustomed to".
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

kab69440

Quote from: snakecharmer777 on July 31, 2011, 12:03:54 AM
im a lurker from way back i do appreciate the info but try not to post because there is an underlying air of supremecy from the old timers just giving  :lol:my 2 cents on what someone else noted



Dang, man! You have been gone for a while!  How's that seven second Mach 1 of yours coming along? Welcome back, by the way!
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1969chargerrtse

Quote from: 68X426 on July 29, 2011, 05:08:26 PM
Quote from: Brock Samson on July 29, 2011, 01:57:59 PM
OK - I know I'm not the only one to notice a bunch of mean and ill tempered threads and responses to threads.

:shruggy: Really? I think this is a happy place.
:iagree:
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b5blue

  Down with Frumpy Grumpy Pants People! This is where I get my Good Vibrations! (Beach Boys playing in the background.) (Really playing right now.)  :lol:

tan top

Quote from: b5blue on July 31, 2011, 06:39:02 AM
 Down with Frumpy Grumpy Pants People! This is where I get my Good Vibrations! (Beach Boys playing in the background.) (Really playing right now.)  :lol:

:yesnod:

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Richard Cranium

Quote from: tan top on July 31, 2011, 07:05:33 AM
:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hnf8CbswEss


Hmmmm.....

"This video contains content from SME, UMPG Publishing and EMI, one or more of whom have blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.
Sorry about that."


Try this one instead......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulGdqcez2JM
I am Dr. Remulac

tan top

Quote from: Richard Cranium on July 31, 2011, 07:22:18 AM
Quote from: tan top on July 31, 2011, 07:05:33 AM
:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hnf8CbswEss


Hmmmm.....

"This video contains content from SME, UMPG Publishing and EMI, one or more of whom have blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.
Sorry about that."


Try this one instead......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulGdqcez2JM


hmmmm , that odd must of clicked on wrong one , was deffo good vibrations :scratchchin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hrg7-8xvYDY
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

NHCharger

Quote from: snakecharmer777 on July 31, 2011, 12:03:54 AM
but try not to post because there is an underlying air of supremecy from the old timers

Don't let my title fool you, I'm not that bad of a guy ;)
72 Charger- Base Model
68 Charger-R/T Clone
69 Charger Daytona clone
79 Lil Red Express - future money pit
88 Ramcharger 4x4- current money pit
55 Dodge Royal 2 door - wife's money pit
2014 RAM 2500HD Diesel

greenpigs

Quote from: Brock Samson on July 29, 2011, 01:57:59 PM
OK - I know I'm not the only one to notice a bunch of mean and ill tempered threads and responses to threads. Used to just be general lee friendly helpful around here and welcoming - sometimes with gentle humor and encouragement.


It could be with so many new members it is hard to remember each ones sense of humor or lack of. Then toes get stepped on and others jump on the bandwagon, like they do with everything else.
1969 Charger RT


Living Chevy free

Richard Cranium

Quote from: greenpigs on July 31, 2011, 10:27:54 AM


It could be with so many new members it is hard to remember each ones sense of humor

It may be hard for some to believe, but I don't like humor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWpU8sX10_4
I am Dr. Remulac

snakecharmer777

7 sec mach 1 :eek2: :eek2:you have me confused with someone else i have a 71 rr a 72 sattelitte and a 68 plymouth suburban oh wait a min i get it you were being sarcastic well back to b- bodies-only

MoparManJim

Quote from: greenpigs on July 31, 2011, 10:27:54 AM
Quote from: Brock Samson on July 29, 2011, 01:57:59 PM
OK - I know I'm not the only one to notice a bunch of mean and ill tempered threads and responses to threads. Used to just be general lee friendly helpful around here and welcoming - sometimes with gentle humor and encouragement.


It could be with so many new members it is hard to remember each ones sense of humor or lack of. Then toes get stepped on and others jump on the bandwagon, like they do with everything else.

I don't care if I get slam for this comment I am about to post.. but future more I don't care. If the old members doesn't have a good sense of humor or even the newer members doesn't have a sense humor either, then they shouldn't be on here at all. Because when a person doesn't have a sense of humor, it makes that person down right a very dull person to be with or around or to even inter react with all together. 

Now like Brock said also, and I would also like to add to that as well. If people want to dang well slam people for them turning there chargers into General Lee's (owners choice), well the people that are slamming those people better take a step back and look at there own charger. Because that is what the General Lee is downright... a "charger" under that paint and with those other people slamming the General, they are also slamming there own charger as well under that paint job ( let be it a custom paint job or factory paint job) they have on there car.  :yesnod: :icon_smile_wink: 

I know when you get a lot of people on a forum or club, it's very hard to remember each person and there sense of humor, I also know people try to change there ways to be around these people, for me, I won't try to change my ways to be around them or enter react around them either. They will just have to accept me of the way I am or they can just get lost.  :lol:

Just because I haven't been posting to much recently (or the last few weeks), doesn't mean I'm not still here or around here. Because I am  :lol: . The thing is, I been posting updates, just not on here is all.  :smilielol:

Kern Dog

Heck yeah !!!
I cannot stand dull people. It amazes me that there are people that take no joy in poking a little fun, breaking some balls and tossing in some sarcastic comments now and then. I thrive around witty and intelligent insults! The more original the better! I don't mind being insulted either, as long as it is clever and original.  The witless guys that get torqued off at any little thing would be a real bore to be around in person. They would be better off sticking to jobs as Morticians where their interactions with real humans is limited.

stripedelete

Ya, is the issue bad vibs? Or is it thin skins?

skip68

My panties fit loose and hardly ever get in a bunch.  My skin is as thick as they come and my sense of humor is as dry as they get.
When I'm in charge of this site you will see nothing but happy post and happy people like me.   
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kab69440

Quote from: snakecharmer777 on July 31, 2011, 01:48:02 PM
7 sec mach 1 :eek2: :eek2:you have me confused with someone else i have a 71 rr a 72 sattelitte and a 68 plymouth suburban oh wait a min i get it you were being sarcastic well back to b- bodies-only


Way back when, you (or another user with this same username) used to pop into the old chat room trying to stir the pot. Man, that was some funny stuff you used to come up with!
Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not;  a sense of humor to console him for what he is.      Francis Bacon

WANT TO BUY:
Looking for a CD by  'The Sub-Mersians'  entitled "Raw Love Songs From My Garage To Your Bedroom"

Also, any of the various surf-revival compilation albums this band has contributed to.
Thank you,    Kenny

Jesus drove a Honda. He wasn't proud of it, though...
John 12: 49     "...for I did not speak of my own Accord."

Darkman

The biggest issue is that sarcasm cannot be detected in posts. People only interpret the words as they are written, not in the context they were meant! That is why I try to use smilies to help put the words in context. It is annoying though when people constantly come on here to have a dig at people, their cars and their choices. "Can't we just all get along?"

Chuck (Skip68), this forum would be dull without your contributions  :2thumbs:
Make it idiot proof, and somebody will make a better idiot!

If you think Education is difficult, try being stupid!

Richard Cranium

Quote from: MoparManJim on July 31, 2011, 02:13:59 PM
Just because I haven't been posting to much recently (or the last few weeks), doesn't mean I'm not still here or around here. Because I am  :lol: .


The crash English course you've been taking at summer school seems to be working out. Good job.  :2thumbs: ;)
I am Dr. Remulac

MoparManJim

Quote from: Richard Cranium on July 31, 2011, 05:57:16 PM
Quote from: MoparManJim on July 31, 2011, 02:13:59 PM
Just because I haven't been posting to much recently (or the last few weeks), doesn't mean I'm not still here or around here. Because I am  :lol: .


The crash English course you've been taking at summer school seems to be working out. Good job.  :2thumbs: ;)

:o  What the heck are you talking about? I didn't take no English course.. you bone head.  :lol:  
And I'm out of school, been out for well over 10 years..  :shruggy: :lol: :icon_smile_big:

Whats the mater, you can't pick on me about my bad spelling anymore?  :lol:  

It's called right click and find the correct word.  :smilielol:

A383Wing

Jim was probably the oldest teenager and the tallest in the 6th grade

twodko

"That's why I hide in my shop and listen to Sabbath and Deep Purple while working on my cars."

Now this is my kinda supreme commander! I know youse got some Elvin Bishop, Marshall Tucker Band and Stix in there too. I'll have one rolled for ya.  :cheers:
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MoparManJim

Quote from: A383Wing on July 31, 2011, 07:05:05 PM
Jim was probably the oldest teenager and the tallest in the 6th grade

Hey! how did ya know? :o :smilielol:  

Now being serious, I wasn't the oldest in the class back in the day. There was I believe a few (bout 4 probably) older kids then me in the class and maybe 2 taller ones.  

PS I love your avatar of the Caddy Shack golfer!  :2thumbs: :coolgleamA:

snakecharmer777

yes that was me way back when and yes i signed on as a ford fanatic as well as a woman with a hemi challenger the chat room was really fun back then we had doc from  begium and troy was always fun i wish i could have bought his triple black charger stratocaster from frisco  my point is things have changed not necessarily for the best  there should be a way to liven this place up again i know times suck but dammit i own one of the best mopars ever made and my head is held very high

ACUDANUT

Quote from: NHCharger on July 31, 2011, 09:46:58 AM
Quote from: snakecharmer777 on July 31, 2011, 12:03:54 AM
but try not to post because there is an underlying air of supremecy from the old timers
.

Don't forget, some of these "old timers", have only been members here (less than a year) and only have U-Tube video's to offer.
:angel:

bill440rt

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A383Wing


skip68

I love you all so much it hurts.   And that's a fact!   
So, boxers or briefs???   I prefer boxer briefs just in case anyone was wondering what kind of man I am.   
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Richard Cranium

Quote from: MoparManJim on July 31, 2011, 06:00:47 PM
Quote from: Richard Cranium on July 31, 2011, 05:57:16 PM
Quote from: MoparManJim on July 31, 2011, 02:13:59 PM
Just because I haven't been posting to much recently (or the last few weeks), doesn't mean I'm not still here or around here. Because I am  :lol: .


The crash English course you've been taking at summer school seems to be working out. Good job.  :2thumbs: ;)

:o  What the heck are you talking about? I didn't take no English course.. you bone head.  :lol:  
And I'm out of school, been out for well over 10 years..  :shruggy: :lol: :icon_smile_big:

Whats the mater, you can't pick on me about my bad spelling anymore?  :lol:  

It's called right click and find the correct word.  :smilielol:


And all this time I thought you were  either Corky or a just 7th grader building who spends all his spare time building models and hanging out here. Now I see that you're a 28 year old who spends all his spare time building models & hanging out here. See what a difference proper grammar and punctuation makes? 



:icon_smile_big:
I am Dr. Remulac

b5blue

OH HERE WE GO!  :eek2: Richard.....quit being a Dick!

stripedelete

 :smilielol: Corky?  You really had to dig through the archives for that one!

skip68

I think Richard is looking for a spanking.    :popcrn:  

Be careful with the "personal" attacks.  I know it may make you feel better about yourself but it makes more work for our moderators by locking threads.  

Chuck .......
skip68, A.K.A. Chuck \ 68 Charger 440 auto\ 67 Camaro RS (no 440)       FRANKS & BEANS !!!


Khyron

Quote from: ACUDANUT on July 31, 2011, 09:37:26 PM
Don't forget, some of these "old timers", have only been members here (less than a year) and only have U-Tube video's to offer.
:angel:

HA! I see what you did there ;)


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twodko

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MoparManJim

Quote from: Richard Cranium on August 01, 2011, 04:51:42 AM
Quote from: MoparManJim on July 31, 2011, 06:00:47 PM
Quote from: Richard Cranium on July 31, 2011, 05:57:16 PM
Quote from: MoparManJim on July 31, 2011, 02:13:59 PM
Just because I haven't been posting to much recently (or the last few weeks), doesn't mean I'm not still here or around here. Because I am  :lol: .


The crash English course you've been taking at summer school seems to be working out. Good job.  :2thumbs: ;)

:o  What the heck are you talking about? I didn't take no English course.. you bone head.  :lol:  
And I'm out of school, been out for well over 10 years..  :shruggy: :lol: :icon_smile_big:

Whats the mater, you can't pick on me about my bad spelling anymore?  :lol:  

It's called right click and find the correct word.  :smilielol:


And all this time I thought you were  either Corky or a just 7th grader building who spends all his spare time building models and hanging out here. Now I see that you're a 28 year old who spends all his spare time building models & hanging out here. See what a difference proper grammar and punctuation makes? 



:icon_smile_big:

28? geesh, you can't even get that right. I'm older then 28 dude. by the way, thanks for the personal attack.

MoparManJim

Quote from: skip68 on August 01, 2011, 10:21:39 AM
I think Richard is looking for a spanking.    :popcrn:  

Be careful with the "personal" attacks.  I know it may make you feel better about yourself but it makes more work for our moderators by locking threads.  

Chuck .......

Richard is in fact looking for a spanking, but it will not be from me.  :lol:  

If he does get a spanking, he bought it on himself.  :lol: 

Chuck is right, be careful with those personal attacks at other forum members please. The mods frown upon that kind of stuff as that makes there site look bad and people doesn't like to join that kind of sites when they see stuff like that going on to other follow forum members.  :icon_smile_big: :lol:  

MoparManJim

 :lol: Also for the record, for the folks on here (pressly Richard  :lol: ) . I don't keep my info on here up to date to well. :lol: Just because it shows my age pose to be 28, I'm older then that (I have not updated that). 

Also, I would like to add, I'm not just a model car builder. I'm also a fabricator, artist and afew other things.   :lol:

Richard Cranium

Quote from: Red 70 R/T 493 on July 31, 2011, 02:23:22 PM
Heck yeah !!!
I cannot stand dull people. It amazes me that there are people that take no joy in poking a little fun, breaking some balls and tossing in some sarcastic comments now and then. I thrive around witty and intelligent insults! The more original the better! I don't mind being insulted either, as long as it is clever and original.  The witless guys that get torqued off at any little thing would be a real bore to be around in person. They would be better off sticking to jobs as Morticians where their interactions with real humans is limited.


Quote from: skip68 on August 01, 2011, 10:21:39 AM
I think Richard is looking for a spanking.    :popcrn:  

Be careful with the "personal" attacks.  I know it may make you feel better about yourself but it makes more work for our moderators by locking threads.  

Chuck .......


I'm confused.   :shruggy:
I am Dr. Remulac

MoparManJim

Quote from: Richard Cranium on August 01, 2011, 03:30:19 PM
Quote from: Red 70 R/T 493 on July 31, 2011, 02:23:22 PM
Heck yeah !!!
I cannot stand dull people. It amazes me that there are people that take no joy in poking a little fun, breaking some balls and tossing in some sarcastic comments now and then. I thrive around witty and intelligent insults! The more original the better! I don't mind being insulted either, as long as it is clever and original.  The witless guys that get torqued off at any little thing would be a real bore to be around in person. They would be better off sticking to jobs as Morticians where their interactions with real humans is limited.


Quote from: skip68 on August 01, 2011, 10:21:39 AM
I think Richard is looking for a spanking.    :popcrn:  

Be careful with the "personal" attacks.  I know it may make you feel better about yourself but it makes more work for our moderators by locking threads.  

Chuck .......


I'm confused.   :shruggy:

Why are you confuse for Richy, One guy likes one thing, Chuck clearly stated about the mods on this forum and how they feel about things that goes on and the attacks towards other members. Just because the one guy likes that kind of stuff doesn't mean the mods will though or others would either. But I think it also depends on what is said as well and the personal attacks are in fact made though towards another member for the mods to at times step in though to either say something or lock a thread. 

When Chuck said be careful. I think he meant as in what you say with your reply (some may take it as a personal attack, including the mods) though towards another follow board member. Mods doesn't at times like that kind of stuff. 

As for me and what you said towards me, I'll just turn to the other sheik.  :2thumbs: