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AMD Rear Window Glass Issue

Started by Bobby41909, July 13, 2011, 09:26:19 PM

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Bobby41909

I bought a full set of AMD glass a year ago and it's all been installed in the car.  Looks great...but...when we took the car outside you can see hazed lines and small circles in the rear window.  No other glass pieces have these marks.  Of course when I sent this picture to AMD they did the right thing and sent me another new one for free.  I just got it today and it has the same issue.  Might not be as bad, it was hard to tell since the sun was almost gone when I got it.  Funny you only see the marks in the sun (only tried toward the end of the day).  Not sure that's the only time you see it.

I know a bunch of you guys an gals have AMD glass...am I the only one with this issue? 

Anyone know another Company that makes glass (not AMD)?


Just 6T9 CHGR

Yup, my repro piece does the same thing.   I got the bargain basement piece (with no Mopar part #'s etc) from PS Glass, so I figured I got what I paid for...
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


maxwellwedge

Every rear repro glass I have seen is like this - regardless of the supplier....E-Body as well

resq302

Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

Bobby41909

Quote from: maxwellwedge on July 14, 2011, 09:29:57 PM
Every rear repro glass I have seen is like this - regardless of the supplier....E-Body as well

WTF... :shruggy:  Why make crap?  and we all keep buying it because there isn't any better out there....

So for those who have repro glass, how noticable is it?  Can it be seen during the day? I only noticed mine at sunset but haven't had the car out really because its not done yet.

Curious is a light black tint would hide it.  Anyone tint their windows?. 

Patronus

Mine too..  :rotz:  Its the worst glass in the set. Anyone tried tinting it yet?
'73 Cuda 340 5spd RMS
'69 Charger 383 "Luci"
'08 CRF 450r
'12.5 450SX FE

NorwayCharger

I do see those marks on new cars too..
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tan top

Quote from: NorwayCharger on July 16, 2011, 02:59:54 AM
I do see those marks on new cars too..

yes me too !! its the stress points in the glass when its made !!   put good quality Polaroid sunglasses on !   walk round a parking lot  when the sun is shining !!  will see every or most   car glass with  in one form or another , well modern stuff anyway more prominent   depending what angle  :yesnod: having said that ,  not seen it on my charger , still got all  original glass , although  weren't looking for it  
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Patronus

Weird though how none of the other pieces have any?? Somebody tint it and see if its still there.  :popcrn:
'73 Cuda 340 5spd RMS
'69 Charger 383 "Luci"
'08 CRF 450r
'12.5 450SX FE

Mopar Crazy

Sorry to hear these horror stories with the back glass. This stuff isn't cheap....
I'm going need a new front a/c tinted windshield for my 68.
Does any one have any good suggestions on where to buy a good quality windshield??? 
Do it Once and Do it Right !!!

71wrenchhead

your not going to avoid those spots, its becuz of the way the glass is made
throw on some polarized sunglasses while you drive, youll see the spots EVERYWHERE
one of those things your just going to have to either accept, of invent a new way to make glass
Got slapped by my wife for keeping an engine in the bedroom........yeah, pretty much sums up my life

Mike DC

Did the original glass have those marks?  I don't remember them that way. 




Brock Lee

Could this be it?

QuoteTempered glass possesses the basic optical qualities of annealed glass. The induced stress condition sometimes produces a slight bow in tempered glass lights. Tempered glass that has been manufactured in a vertical tempering oven contains small surface depressions resembling dimples along one edge. These marks are caused by the pointed metal tongs which support the glass during its passage through the oven. Glass which is passed horizontally through an oven may contain a very slight surface wave caused by contact with the rollers. The waviness can sometimes be detected when viewing reflected images from a large distance. Finally, the air quench nozzles discharge air in a fixed, reciprocating or rotating motion. The area of air quench can be seen through polarized glass as arrays of irridescent spots or lines. Under some lighting conditions these patterns can be seen in ordinary light.

Troy

Quote from: Brock Lee on July 23, 2011, 03:16:53 PM
Could this be it?

QuoteTempered glass possesses the basic optical qualities of annealed glass. The induced stress condition sometimes produces a slight bow in tempered glass lights. Tempered glass that has been manufactured in a vertical tempering oven contains small surface depressions resembling dimples along one edge. These marks are caused by the pointed metal tongs which support the glass during its passage through the oven. Glass which is passed horizontally through an oven may contain a very slight surface wave caused by contact with the rollers. The waviness can sometimes be detected when viewing reflected images from a large distance. Finally, the air quench nozzles discharge air in a fixed, reciprocating or rotating motion. The area of air quench can be seen through polarized glass as arrays of irridescent spots or lines. Under some lighting conditions these patterns can be seen in ordinary light.
Sounds like it.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

Nacho-RT74

Quote from: resq302 on July 14, 2011, 09:35:42 PM
tempering marks?

I think.

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on July 23, 2011, 02:26:17 PM
Did the original glass have those marks?  I don't remember them that way. 


my front has them, and is visible driving with sunglasses

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Nacho-RT74

Quote from: tan top on July 16, 2011, 03:21:29 AM
Quote from: NorwayCharger on July 16, 2011, 02:59:54 AM
I do see those marks on new cars too..

yes me too !! its the stress points in the glass when its made !!   put good quality Polaroid sunglasses on !   walk round a parking lot  when the sun is shining !!  will see every or most   car glass with  in one form or another , well modern stuff anyway more prominent   depending what angle  :yesnod: having said that ,  not seen it on my charger , still got all  original glass , although  weren't looking for it 

Talking about sunglasses LOL
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BananaDan

I'm planning on replacing my back glass soon.  I guess it is what it is, and we live with it?  I had my windshield replaced last year and it doesn't have any marks like that.  Why would a rear window have tempering marks so visible, but my windshield doesn't when it's also tempered.   :shruggy:
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tan top

Quote from: BananaDan on July 25, 2011, 12:57:17 AM
I'm planning on replacing my back glass soon.  I guess it is what it is, and we live with it?  I had my windshield replaced last year and it doesn't have any marks like that.  Why would a rear window have tempering marks so visible, but my windshield doesn't when it's also tempered.   :shruggy:

not so bad on a windshield  , as its laminated !!  ie two inner & outer layer of glass with vinyl sandwiched in between ,  but can still see in on some modern windshields   when looking  inside out  with sunglasses on  !!  but its tempered (toughened) glass thats where it shows up  :yesnod:
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Nacho-RT74

actually by safety, all front windshields must be laminated. Tempered explodes when breaking, Laminated just cracks but you still can drive, thats the reason why nowdays all fronts are laminated. The rest can be tempered
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Nwcharger

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on July 23, 2011, 02:26:17 PM
Did the original glass have those marks?  I don't remember them that way. 

i don't think so. i have 2 factory rear windows 1 clear 1 factory tint. they re not in the car so i may not see those lines at the angle I'm looking at them. the clear one is going up for sale if interested.


1969 coronet wagon

tan top

 thought this might be of interest !!   look at below  picture !!  :scratchchin:  !!  :shruggy:
going by the ad sounds like it is more that likely its the original back glass  :yesnod:
http://www.rkmotorscharlotte.com/inventory/1969-1-2-Dodge-Coronet-Superbee/132184
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C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
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Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
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resq302

Funny this popped back up.  I was just thinking of this thread the other day when I was on the road and saw a new car have the same kind of "oil spots" rainbow colors in the glass on a newer car side glass.  Could just be the way glass is being made today.
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

69 OUR/TEA

Have a new AMD tinted windshield,no problems with it.

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greasyspider

I have factory glass in mine- same issue.  I just thought it was due to age--guess not. :shruggy:
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