I just don't get the nerve of some people.....

[69bronzeT5]

So, the title pretty much explains everything. Me and Matt (CHARGER PUNK) went to a Mopar show with my Duster on Sunday. It's the biggest Mopar show in our area and is hosted by the local Mopar club. One of the higher club members (who goes by 'Cuda Gary'- well known for HIGH parts prices) was doing the award presentations. The '1964-1971 HEMI' class came up and a very well done 1971 'Cuda clone won. He beat out two factory Hemi 1970 Challenger R/Ts (one of which was just gorgeous). I personally thought a real Hemi car should of won but what can you do. The guy did do an awesome job with his clone so he definitley deserved it. However, this 'Cuda Gary' idiot started bashing the guy and making him feel like shit. He was going on about how the 'Cuda shouldn't of been in that class because there are better suited 'restification' classes for it and a real Hemi car should of gotten it because they did incredible jobs with their cars and on and on. He just wouldn't shut up. I mean, there is no harm with a friendly poke but he went on for about 2 minutes just ranting. The owner of the 'Cuda just blew the guy off but I could tell he wanted to strangle him I just don't get the nerve of some people. I mean keep your frickin' comments to yourself....

[chargerjy9]

"people are strange......." some of these Mopar "purists" should just stay home, locked up,MTOB, staring at their trailer queens in their garage shrine and live in their own narrow little world. IMO

[charge69]

I personally would have thought a factory Hemi should have won but,.......... I am sure the Cuda was a beautiful car and done very well to have won and would have never said that to a car owner. "Cuda Gary" was waaaayy out of line. I  hate to go to car shows and mine will see very few just because of jerks like that.

I will enjoy it a lot more just driving it around rather than sitting in a lawn chair all day worrying about the "sure to happen" scratch it is going to get!

[Troy]

If it were a class problem then the judges should have brought it up - not the presenter. If that's the name of the class it doesn't say anything about "stock". I bet the guys with the real Hemi cars were whining too - but if the winner's car was that nice and he lost there's be contention as well. Car show politics are so ridiculous! Honestly, the only reason I go to most local shows is so I can park in the show field and not have to walk as far. Well, I'll also go if the entry fees are being donated to a charity. I never have my cars judged.

Troy

[Rolling_Thunder]

I went through a similar experience when one of the cars I took to the spring fling won over one of Steve Strope's cars...    the owner was huffing and puffing that his car done by strope had lost and wouldn't leave it alone...   

[Dans 68]

...Honestly, the only reason I go to most local shows is so I can park in the show field and not have to walk as far. Well, I'll also go if the entry fees are being donated to a charity. I never have my cars judged.

Troy

I agree 100%. Especially not having to walk as far....  

Dan

[69bronzeT5]

I personally would have thought a factory Hemi should have won but,.......... I am sure the Cuda was a beautiful car and done very well to have won and would have never said that to a car owner. "Cuda Gary" was waaaayy out of line. I  hate to go to car shows and mine will see very few just because of jerks like that.

I will enjoy it a lot more just driving it around rather than sitting in a lawn chair all day worrying about the "sure to happen" scratch it is going to get!

Here's a picture of the 'Cuda at one of the other shows I've seen it at

[BrianShaughnessy]

I personally would have thought a factory Hemi should have won but,.......... I am sure the Cuda was a beautiful car and done very well to have won and would have never said that to a car owner. "Cuda Gary" was waaaayy out of line. I  hate to go to car shows and mine will see very few just because of jerks like that.

I will enjoy it a lot more just driving it around rather than sitting in a lawn chair all day worrying about the "sure to happen" scratch it is going to get!

Here's a picture of the 'Cuda at one of the other shows I've seen it at

   From what I can tell... looks like a nice "modified" car with headers, etc.    Perhaps this blowhard should have had different classifications for stock and / or modified cars in which any clone would automatically be modified class and the factory hemi car would be in stock... unless it too was modified to a degree in which case it would have to be judged on the merits of it's modifications and not just the value of it's VIN tag.

[charge69]

That is a beautiful and very well done clone! I cannot imagine owning such a car and NOT driving it! As the class was open to all Hemicars, I doubt the originals were as nice as this one. Very deserving of an award.

[Richard Cranium]

If it were a class problem then the judges should have brought it up

Unlike me, not everyone has class.   

[RECHRGD]

The way the classes were listed did not designate stock or modified.  Thats a beautiful car and should not be deserving of the typical Clone badmouthing.  If the idiot didn't like the way the classes were setup then he could have chosen not to enter.  At any rate he should have kept his dumb ass mouth shut.

[John_Kunkel]

The guy did do an awesome job with his clone so he definitley deserved it. However, this 'Cuda Gary' idiot started bashing the guy and making him feel like shit.

"The guy" should grow a pair and give what he gets.

[Tilar]

If it were a class problem then the judges should have brought it up

Unlike me, not everyone has class.   

Lots of people have friends in low places. 

[A383Wing]

Lots of people have friends in low places. 

I'm wondering if I'm one of the "people" or one of the "low place" friends 

[G-man]

This is why Im never going to want my car judged. Its all a bunch of rigged/paid under the table bullshit.

The class was  for "HEMI" Cars. That clone is not a HEMI CUDA, its a Cuda with a HEMI put in it, theres a huge difference. So different infact that the VIN and Chasis Numbers will prove it aint a Hemi car.

The  clone won when its not even a Hemi car. Some test that was, while ppl who were lucky enough to own HEMI CARS lose.

#$*#&$#* That retarded bafoon of a Judge.

Thats almost as retarded as what happens in Austalia. There was a 1970 Challenger 440 sixpack perfect resto, paint perfect, every chrome strip on car brand new and perfectly installed, interior perfect and new, engine bay every cable etc clean/perfect/new, not 1  flaw on the car. So perfect the car had 1000 man hours on paint prep as it was all hand rubbed to be 100% perfect. He was getting judged verse this orange Cuda, which had a blower sticking out the bonnet, nothing original, didnt even look good due to the enormous wheels on it, paint was not as good, guess who won? the Shitbox orange Cuda, why? Cause hes a friend of the judge and was a president of a car club prior to this, so they just gave it to him.

That cuda can go off a cliff, Clone piece of shit waste of space car trying to be what it isnt. Cant afford a real one so just go clone something into sometehing it aint. CLONES SHOULD BE BANNED, THERE JOKES

[charge69]

Why don't you tell how you feel about clones, G-man?   I feel much the same way as you about car shows and feel most, if not all, are rigged to produce the winner they want in the club that sponsers the show. Seen too many of them to not be jaded a bit.

Someone (the owner, I hope) put a lot of time and money into a clone just to take it to car shows, I guess and that just is not right to beat out original, and rare, Hemicars like he apparently did but, where does it say "life" is fair? It ain't and never will be as far as I am concerned.

[A383Wing]

Clone piece of shit waste of space car trying to be what it isnt. Cant afford a real one so just go clone something into sometehing it aint. CLONES SHOULD BE BANNED, THERE JOKES

wow, speaking of some "people"...I got a clone, but I don't try to pass it off as OE....

[Rolling_Thunder]

Well - if it was simply a 66-71 Hemi class - then clones should be allowed...    if not then the people who put on the show need to me more specific...     then need to state "only factory hemi cars allowed, clones will compete in 66-71 restified" or something like that...       

Why should a factory hemi car win ? I say if the clone is nicer than the other cars then it deserves to win...     unless the descriptions dictate otherwise

[RallyeMike]

Shameful behavior.

Unfortunately, this is the typical type of stuff that turns people away from clubs and keeps them from participating in events.

[aussiemuscle]

"send in the clones" 

[tan top]

Unlike me, not everyone has class.  

clone Hemi car should not have won , in a 66 -71  Hemi  class !!  have another separate class ,     as awesome as that clone hemi cuda is , to the less informed car guy in the crowed  !! its saying a clone & an original hemi car are one in the same  car !    think i know what i'm trying to say but it not coming  across well  
the guy handing out the awards should of kept his comments to him self !!    sound like he was just  trying to make him self sound clever

Well - if it was simply a 66-71 Hemi class - then clones should be allowed...    if not then the people who put on the show need to me more specific...     then need to state "only factory hemi cars allowed, clones will compete in 66-71 restified" or something like that...       

Why should a factory hemi car win ? I say if the clone is nicer than the other cars then it deserves to win...     unless the descriptions dictate otherwise

thats true also 

[Roger 68 charger]

Well - if it was simply a 66-71 Hemi class - then clones should be allowed...    if not then the people who put on the show need to me more specific...     then need to state "only factory hemi cars allowed, clones will compete in 66-71 restified" or something like that...       

Why should a factory hemi car win ? I say if the clone is nicer than the other cars then it deserves to win...     unless the descriptions dictate otherwise

       

[chargerjy9]

Well - if it was simply a 66-71 Hemi class - then clones should be allowed...    if not then the people who put on the show need to me more specific...     then need to state "only factory hemi cars allowed, clones will compete in 66-71 restified" or something like that...       

Why should a factory hemi car win ? I say if the clone is nicer than the other cars then it deserves to win...     unless the descriptions dictate otherwise

finally, a voice of reason.. that car won fair and square, the class breakdown was'nt specific enough. I suspect that the event organizers didn't anticipate the clone factor when they set up the different class divisions

[G-man]

At the end of the day the REAL winner is the guy that can go home knowing "MY car is a REAL HEMI car" + hes the guy with a car worth a hell of a lot more than the clone aswell.

Screw judging. Its based on a bunch of biased opinions anyway. I just go to shows to see the cool cars and then go home. In all honesty, even a car that needs a restor being a factory hemi car wins in my view in 'reality'. O well.

When I get my ford GT40 I wont have to give a rats about who wins what, bring it to the track or drag strip and we sort it out there. 

[chargermike]

this is why i never get my car judged. mainly because i dont give a shit what someone else thinks of my car. also real or clone dont matter.. the car is real nice. just cause it came with a hemi factory or put in later who the hell cares. its a hemi car. you factory guys crack me up. if its restored its not orginal anyway. many of your cars have after market parts. so there not factory cars there redone to be factory looking cars. so really there all clones. there just cars. there worth what there worth. and i bet you i love my car just as much as you factory guys. and to the person who hates clones and calls them piece of shit. well the shit beat out the factory. ill drive shit. if you remove the vin tag. most of you would not know factory or clone. and i would have shoved the award up cuda garys ass. sounds like his name should be just prick gary with a cuda.