transmission issues

[lilwendal]

Changed my trans fluid about a week ago.  Before this I had no problems.  Drove it around after the block after the fluid change and everything was fine.  Car sat for about a week and when I started it I had a whine from the transmission similar to a power steering pump thats low on fluid.  So I allowed it to warm up and it looks like I went about 2 quarts to much on the fluid. Dont know how I managed that but the fluid mark was way up the dipstick.  Lower the fluid back to the full mark tranny hot and now the whine noise is gone but the tranny doesnt shift right from second to drive.  First to second is strong but when its ready to shift from 2 to 3rd the engine just revs.  I have to let off on the gas then it drops into drive.  Once its in drive its fine.  Weird.  Any ideas?  Thanks

[Ghoste]

Not to be condescending, but you are checking the fluid level warmed up and in neutral right?

[lilwendal]

Yes warm, running and in nuetral.  Seems to be getting progressivly worse.   Before it was just 2nd to 3 rd, now its also 1st to 2 nd and sometimes it wont go into any gear from park.  Just now I drove around for a bit, came to a stop and when I went to go the engine just reved and the car barely moved.  After a couple revs it finally took first and I limped home.  I'm at a loss.

[General_01]

Just asking questions here:

#1. Did you just drain the fluid and then fill it up? or..

#2 Did you drop the pan and change the filter?

If #1, a small peice of material may have floated into the valve body and is now wreaking havoc. If #2 , retrace your steps and make sure everything went back in correctly.

Hope you can figure it out before you damage your tranny to the point of a rebuild. Good luck.

[Rolling_Thunder]

is it a recently rebuilt transmission ?  maybe a clutch pack is gone ?

[lilwendal]

Dont really know too much off the history on the tranny.  Drove the car home about 2 miles then ripped the hole car apart for the resto.  I know it wasnt driven for at least a year or two but was started up monthly.  I've got about 100 miles on  the car since I finished it with no shifting problems at all till now.  The owner stated the tranny was  rebuilt about  8k miles ago, but with the car sitting that could have been 4 or 5 years ago.   Only flushed the fluid at the change but today I'm going to drain it again, check the pan for debris and change the filter.  i've been thinking about a shift kit upgrade.  do you guys feel this is a vale body issue that might be resolved with a cleaning and upgrade of the valve body, or something more serious like a pump?  Thanks

[lilwendal]

Well heres an update.  Dropped the pan and the fluid does not smell burnt and still looks clear red. The pan was free of any metal or sludge. But heres the weird thing the whole filter is covered in a fiberous thick sludge looking stuff.  I've opened plenty of trannys and seen sludge but this is differnt.  Its almost like the filter itself has tuned to mush.  the pans clear but scrapping the filter it appears the filter material is coming off.  Has anyone seen this before.  I dont now if its from sitting or if maybe something was in the radiator or the fluid lines. Well going to get a new filter andsee what happens.

[lilwendal]

New filter fixed it.  I guess that explains why the tranny was acting like it was low on fluid but the dipstick was reading high.  i'll change the filter again in 100 miles just to see if its still collecting debris. Thanks

[RD]

next time you swap the filter, take the pan onto your work bench and pound it smooth again.  if the pan is touching your filter, that means in the past someone probably lifted the tranny by putting a jack directly onto the pan without placing a 1'x1' piece of wood or 2x4 in between the pan and the jack.

[Ghoste]

That is a new one to me.  Wonder what it was?