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A little project I am working on....( oil filter)

Started by resq302, June 22, 2011, 07:19:20 AM

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resq302

First, I have to give a huge thanks to Johntpr for helping me out with info on this.  This was just a first try and obviously when you see the pics, some refining needs to be done.  But all in all, not bad for a first run.  If I can get the shade of the color right and get an issue resolved with the decal, it should be dead on.
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

resq302

I know the color is off.  The cap on the rattle can looked dead on but after I sprayed it out, it looked more like a flat army green than the yellowish green color on the cap.  
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

resq302

Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

hemigeno

It does look good so far, Brian.  Hopefully you can get the color & decal issues worked out.

A related question for you - should those be oversprayed with engine color or not?  I've always thought so, but am now hearing that's probably not the case.

:scratchchin:

tan top

 :coolgleamA:  clever     :yesnod:!!

were'nt these textured  ??
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resq302

Yes they are textured and the pic is not good enough to show the texture.  It might not be as coarse as the original but it DOES have texturing on it!  

As for the engine over spray..... I am not 100% certain as the only ones I have seen have been NOS or on the show engines or assembly line pics which is too far away to tell if there is over spray or not.  I have heard that there was some kind of a cover that went over it but as to how far that cover went onto the filter, I do not know.
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

resq302

wow, actually just looked at the pics and the color looks more grayish than green.  The actual color is more like a dark army green than what you see.  Saturday I should have more insight as to how I can match the color better.   :2thumbs:
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

69bronzeT5

Wow, looks factory fresh!! What filter did you use originally and where did you get the decal from?
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resq302

decal I made up with stuff from Staples however, the clear didn't turn out to be "crystal clear".  I actually found something that I missed making up also so that will be on the next one that I do.

As for the filter, I just used a Purolator that I had laying around.  Height is a little short and the knurled part is not as long as the originals.  
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

Just 6T9 CHGR

So how about the raised "M" on top?

I do the same thing with the red/white/blue Mopar repro filters...take a WIX, paint it white, add the red & blue stripes & put clear decals I made on the PC for the lettering.

Was doing this even when those filters were available....since they have been disco'd the prices are out of control!
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


resq302

The raised "M" is accomplished using a thin piece of aluminum or steel.  I can't remember which it is off the top of my head.  Kinda leaning towards aluminum.  The "M" is traced out onto the metal and then cut out by hand.  Can we say major pain in the butt?  But it is well worth it if the end result is as good as I am hoping.
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

RJS

Brian, That's very ingenious on your part!!!  Keep up the good work!

bill440rt

Hmmm.....  VERY clever!

Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on June 22, 2011, 06:17:56 PM
So how about the raised "M" on top?

I do the same thing with the red/white/blue Mopar repro filters...take a WIX, paint it white, add the red & blue stripes & put clear decals I made on the PC for the lettering.

Was doing this even when those filters were available....since they have been disco'd the prices are out of control!


I bought the last remaining batch from Monicatti Dodge. They were the last they had in stock. Went for broke & bought about a dozen of them to have on hand for the future. Kinda sucks. Such a universally needed part now disco'd.  :rotz:
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resq302

Quote from: RJS on June 22, 2011, 08:52:24 PM
Brian, That's very ingenious on your part!!!  Keep up the good work!

Like I said, I can not take full credit for this.  John, did the one a while ago and he was a big part of helping me with what he used.  I am just refining and tweaking it to get more dead on like it was from the factory.  Without Johns help, I probably would still be scratching my head as to how to get the textured part on the filter.  When I get this perfected, John will be having one for his car on the house. :coolgleamA:
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

johntpr

Thanks Brian. Sorry we won't see you at Carlisle.

Magnumcharger

From my friend Kori:
"Last week I tryed to buy some repop M-P filters...although they are shown in the New catalog...they are no longer available! There was talk that those green ones were going to be repopped but maybe not now? I was also wondering about the overspray/paint on assembly line engine filters...makes sense that they would be painted...much like the spark plugs, battery cable, etc".


1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

Magnumcharger

Another one...and from another friend:  

"I've had this part for years plus I have one on my AAR. I might want to sell it in the spring/summer.
Several years ago a guy offered me a $1000.00 for it. In what years and models was it correct?"

....and lastly, does anybody know where this tag goes?
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

Magnumcharger

A vintage Canadian spec oil filter...pic by Kori!
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

resq302

Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

FLG

Brian,

This might be able to help out with your gritty look for the filter...heck might even be a decent color match.

http://www.rustoleum.com/CBGProduct.asp?pid=80

resq302

Frank,

I think I have the color pretty much down.  I have a clear sand grit texture to go over the filter once the decals are applied.  Just awaiting on the decals right now.  If all goes well, I should have the filters on our cars for the NCPC show in PA in a couple weeks.

Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

resq302

Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

Charger-Bodie

Looks pretty darn good to me! Can you make me one up from am Amsoil filter?
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

stripedelete

What was the original reason for the gritty finish?

resq302

1hotdaytona,

Id have to see a pic of the Amsoil one as not all filters have the flat spot on the end of the cap.

Stripedelete,

I would have to assume it was for grip to help tighten it up. :shruggy:
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

tan top

Quote from: resq302 on June 29, 2011, 07:30:16 PM
Well, here it is.... the finished product.  Please let me know what everyone thinks......

Last pic is a close up trying to show the texture of the sandy grit.

:scope:   :coolgleamA:  that looks good !! nice job  :yesnod: :2thumbs:

Quote from: resq302 on June 29, 2011, 09:06:10 PM


I would have to assume it was for grip to help tighten it up. :shruggy:


yeah thats my thinking on this too  :scratchchin: :yesnod:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

moparstuart

Quote from: tan top on June 30, 2011, 04:28:49 AM
Quote from: resq302 on June 29, 2011, 07:30:16 PM
Well, here it is.... the finished product.  Please let me know what everyone thinks......

Last pic is a close up trying to show the texture of the sandy grit.

:scope:   :coolgleamA:  that looks good !! nice job  :yesnod: :2thumbs:

Quote from: resq302 on June 29, 2011, 09:06:10 PM


I would have to assume it was for grip to help tighten it up. :shruggy:


yeah thats my thinking on this too  :scratchchin: :yesnod:
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