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Who shifts their automatic manually?

Started by triple_green, June 07, 2011, 12:48:45 PM

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triple_green

June 07, 2011, 12:48:45 PM
The other post about auto or manual got me thinking.....

My car is a console automatic with the chrome shifter and push button. When I am driving around town I love to shift it manually and listen to the 383 HP go thru the RPM range thru the "loose" hemi mufflers. I started doing this with my 67 Dart GT in high school.

Does anyone else do this?

3X
68 Charger 383 HP grandma car (the orignal 3X)

Johnny SixPack

#1
June 07, 2011, 12:50:38 PM
Been shifting automatics as long as I've been driving them.  :icon_smile_big:

Definitely do in the Chargers though.  :yesnod:
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1BAD68

#2
June 07, 2011, 01:49:53 PM
I shift mine but mainly because my trans shifts way too early on its own.
Plus I have the "FrankenShifter" which makes it a lot of fun  :rotz:

1968_Charger

#3
June 07, 2011, 01:53:36 PM
I've got a cheetah manual valvebody. Love shifting.  :yesnod:

Todd Wilson

#4
June 07, 2011, 02:22:09 PM
Isnt going from low to 2nd hard on the torqueflight transmission?!?!


Todd

1969chargerrtse

#5
June 07, 2011, 03:21:56 PM
I used too. Now that I have the correct carb and kickdown linkage, I let Ma Mopar and my adjustments do it automatically. When I want that awesome acceleration sound I just hold the pedal down.  :laugh:
This car was sold many years ago to somebody in Wisconsin. I now am retired and living in Florida.

John_Kunkel

#6
June 07, 2011, 03:56:30 PM
Quote from: Todd Wilson on June 07, 2011, 02:22:09 PM
Isnt going from low to 2nd hard on the torqueflight transmission?!?!


Todd

Yes.
Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

Johnny SixPack

#7
June 07, 2011, 06:05:55 PM
Quote from: John_Kunkel on June 07, 2011, 03:56:30 PM
Quote from: Todd Wilson on June 07, 2011, 02:22:09 PM
Isnt going from low to 2nd hard on the torqueflight transmission?!?!


Todd

Yes.

John, is it hard enough on the transmission that we shouldn't be shifting from 1st to 2nd?
Johnny's Herd:
'69 Charger SE, '70 Charger R/T SE 496 Six Pack, '72 Chrysler Imperial LeBaron, '74 International Scout II, '85 Ford F-250 Diesel, '97 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series

"If everyone is thinking alike, then someone isn't thinking." - Gen. George S. Patton Jr.

"If its got tits or tires, you're going to have trouble with it." - Unknown

Got Dodge Fever? There's only one cure.....Charger!

GordonGriggs

#8
June 07, 2011, 06:18:44 PM

I have a reverse manual valve body in my pro-street charger. So if I want to get out of first gear I have to shift.  :icon_smile_big:

jb666

#9
June 07, 2011, 07:43:02 PM
I'm also running a full reverse manual valve body with a Gear Vendor's Overdrive unit tossed into the bunch.. It's a LOT of fun to drive!!!!!!!!!!!

Just 6T9 CHGR

#10
June 07, 2011, 08:31:21 PM
Full RMVB here as well...  :yesnod:
Chris' '69 Charger R/T

Piston_Freddy

#12
June 08, 2011, 10:34:23 AM
Pictures are boring, anybody have a video how to shift properly? :D
Max rim size:15"

TK73

#13
June 08, 2011, 11:12:59 AM
Yep...

Hurst Dual Gate

Love shiftin   :2thumbs:
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jobbless

#14
June 08, 2011, 11:37:38 AM
I have been doing it since i started driving. i even do it in ordinary cars. my old lady used to give me shit when i drover her cars. i just cant help it. it just happens without even thinking about it.
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twodko

#15
June 08, 2011, 01:10:21 PM
Only when I'm hot doggin' it.
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67440chrg

#16
June 08, 2011, 03:07:26 PM
Yes I have a rev man valve body.The kid in me thinks its fun.

John_Kunkel

#17
June 08, 2011, 03:53:03 PM

With a full auto transmission the rear band is applied when the shifter is placed in "1", the band must release on the manual 1-2 upshift and it releases slowly causing lots ofd drag/wear. The rear band was never intended to be used on a regular basis, that's why it's not applied in Drive.

With most RMVB's the rear band isn't applied in 1st so the only thing that wears more than normal is the shift linkage.
Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

Todd Wilson

#18
June 08, 2011, 07:48:21 PM
Quote from: John_Kunkel on June 08, 2011, 03:53:03 PM

With a full auto transmission the rear band is applied when the shifter is placed in "1", the band must release on the manual 1-2 upshift and it releases slowly causing lots ofd drag/wear. The rear band was never intended to be used on a regular basis, that's why it's not applied in Drive.

With most RMVB's the rear band isn't applied in 1st so the only thing that wears more than normal is the shift linkage.

Is the thinking behind this that the 1 gear will be stronger then just starting out in D?


Todd

Johnny SixPack

#19
June 08, 2011, 10:38:44 PM
Quote from: John_Kunkel on June 08, 2011, 03:53:03 PM

With a full auto transmission the rear band is applied when the shifter is placed in "1", the band must release on the manual 1-2 upshift and it releases slowly causing lots ofd drag/wear. The rear band was never intended to be used on a regular basis, that's why it's not applied in Drive.

With most RMVB's the rear band isn't applied in 1st so the only thing that wears more than normal is the shift linkage.

Thanks, John.  :cheers:
Johnny's Herd:
'69 Charger SE, '70 Charger R/T SE 496 Six Pack, '72 Chrysler Imperial LeBaron, '74 International Scout II, '85 Ford F-250 Diesel, '97 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series

"If everyone is thinking alike, then someone isn't thinking." - Gen. George S. Patton Jr.

"If its got tits or tires, you're going to have trouble with it." - Unknown

Got Dodge Fever? There's only one cure.....Charger!

daveco

#20
June 08, 2011, 10:45:15 PM
Quote from: John_Kunkel on June 08, 2011, 03:53:03 PM

With a full auto transmission the rear band is applied when the shifter is placed in "1", the band must release on the manual 1-2 upshift and it releases slowly causing lots ofd drag/wear. The rear band was never intended to be used on a regular basis, that's why it's not applied in Drive.

With most RMVB's the rear band isn't applied in 1st so the only thing that wears more than normal is the shift linkage.

I did not know this, sure is nice having an expert on hand :cheers:
R/Tree

FLG

#21
June 09, 2011, 12:36:40 AM
John,

What about a RMVB with low band apply?

1Bad70Charger

#22
June 09, 2011, 12:46:46 AM
Quote from: GordonGriggs on June 07, 2011, 06:18:44 PM

I have a reverse manual valve body in my pro-street charger. So if I want to get out of first gear I have to shift.  :icon_smile_big:

Same with me in my 69 Road Runner with its new 600 HP 505 ci engine!  :2thumbs:
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John_Kunkel

#23
June 09, 2011, 04:13:34 PM
Quote from: Todd Wilson on June 08, 2011, 07:48:21 PM
Is the thinking behind this that the 1 gear will be stronger then just starting out in D?

Yes, with the rear band applied much of the load is taken off of the sprag which is a known weak link.

This is one of those cases where "you can't have your cake..............." If you apply the rear band in low you have to deal with the fact that the servo releases by spring pressure only as opposed to the kickdown servo that releases by both spring and hydraulic pressure. A heavier spring in the rear servo helps the release as does selecting a valve body transfer plate with the largest fluid channel to the rear servo.
Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

69rtse4spd

#24
June 09, 2011, 05:02:21 PM
RMVB in the 70 as well.

Paul G

#25
June 09, 2011, 05:53:55 PM
How can I say this? An automatic shifting at anything but full throttle just sounds weird to me.
1972 Charger Topper Special, 360ci, 46RH OD trans, 8 3/4 sure grip with 3.91 gear, 14.93@92 mph.
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67440chrg

#26
June 09, 2011, 07:37:41 PM
With my rev pattern man shift if I shift at low rpms it bangs into gear but if I bring the rpms up and stay accelerating it works and feels fine.

Todd Wilson

#27
June 09, 2011, 10:53:56 PM
Quote from: John_Kunkel on June 09, 2011, 04:13:34 PM
Quote from: Todd Wilson on June 08, 2011, 07:48:21 PM
Is the thinking behind this that the 1 gear will be stronger then just starting out in D?

Yes, with the rear band applied much of the load is taken off of the sprag which is a known weak link.

This is one of those cases where "you can't have your cake..............." If you apply the rear band in low you have to deal with the fact that the servo releases by spring pressure only as opposed to the kickdown servo that releases by both spring and hydraulic pressure. A heavier spring in the rear servo helps the release as does selecting a valve body transfer plate with the largest fluid channel to the rear servo.


Thanks for that bit of info.  When I used to slug the tractor on a trailer out of a field with the old 440/727 in my 74 D200 I would use low and get it up on the road and then stop and go to D and then head out and go.

todd

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