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New Charger project...Canadian?

Started by F8-4life, May 02, 2011, 07:53:56 PM

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F8-4life

So my current transportation is on it's last leg and I've been looking for another daily driver. I've had my eye on used toyotas and camrys just cause it's nice to have something reliable and good on gas.  With $4 + gas it's just the responsible thing to do ya know? Anyway that's all just theory and what actually happened was somehow I went out and bought a '73 Charger that looks like something joe dirt would drive. The thing that is interesting is that it has "crusader" emblems on both sides and on the dash. The guy I got it from said it was a canadian charger. Although it was sold new at Spitzer dodge in Columbus, OH. Maybe it was imported?? Anybody ever heard of a crusader charger? Any info would be helpful. Thanks guys.

71gtx

 :rofl: Canadian crusader

C    Canada Specifications
if its
on the fender tag then is a Canadian car

F8-4life

Ok if I give you guys pics can you try to help me out? I don't see anything special on the fender tag, although there was two... one that is basically blank with a "P" on it and then one with all the codes. From the looks of the 2nd tag I think it came from lynch rd.

F8-4life

Hopefully these work...

dodgecharger-fan

Chrysler Canada did make a Crusader, but it was in the 50's and I haven't seen an emblem like that - not that i'm an expert.

Post the VIN # and we can decode it for you. That will tell the true tale.

Just 6T9 CHGR

Very interesting...almost looks like a factory type emblem  :scratchchin:
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tan top

Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on May 04, 2011, 05:34:22 PM
Very interesting...almost looks like a factory type emblem  :scratchchin:

:scratchchin: :yesnod:  intresting    the letter C in crusader  looks very similar to the  C in the  charger script   :yesnod:
   be interesting to see whats on the back of the nameplate  :popcrn:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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Ghoste

Looks like one of those dealer specials to me with the custom emblems.

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BigBlackDodge

A 'royal knight' and a 'crusader' all in one yard! Nice theme you have going on there. ;D


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F8-4life

Here's the vin WL21G3AXXXX

Anyone have some info? I'd kinda like to get to the bottom of this.

F8-4life

So I've pretty much figured out the car came from lynch rd so why the emblems? Seems to be excactly zero info on any type of cruesader trim/option.

terrible one

Quote from: tan top on May 04, 2011, 05:51:50 PM
Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on May 04, 2011, 05:34:22 PM
Very interesting...almost looks like a factory type emblem  :scratchchin:

:scratchchin: :yesnod:  intresting    the letter C in crusader  looks very similar to the  C in the  charger script   :yesnod:
  be interesting to see whats on the back of the nameplate  :popcrn:

Agree! In fact, the e,r, and a are close to the same as the "Charger" script font. I'd also be interested in seeing what was on the back of the emblem.

This reminds me of the third gen "Bengal Charger" that came up on this board a while ago. Anyone else remember that one?

daveco

Weren't Chryslers marine V8 engines called Crusaders?
R/Tree

71gtx

 1969 28' tolly with a 413 crusader 


so they are boat emblem s

Brock Samson

no,.. there was a Chrysler Marine boat called a "Charger" 'n the logo was nothing like that.  :shruggy:

Big Sugar

I'm thinking Marine as well, Sounds very familiar.....



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Drache

Quote from: Brock Samson on June 15, 2011, 09:03:12 PM
no,.. there was a Chrysler Marine boat called a "Charger" 'n the logo was nothing like that.  :shruggy:

There was an engine made by Chrysler for boats called the Crusader but I don't recognize the logo
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tan top

Quote from: terrible one on June 15, 2011, 08:16:12 PM
Quote from: tan top on May 04, 2011, 05:51:50 PM
Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on May 04, 2011, 05:34:22 PM
Very interesting...almost looks like a factory type emblem  :scratchchin:

:scratchchin: :yesnod:  intresting    the letter C in crusader  looks very similar to the  C in the  charger script   :yesnod:
  be interesting to see whats on the back of the nameplate  :popcrn:

Agree! In fact, the e,r, and a are close to the same as the "Charger" script font. I'd also be interested in seeing what was on the back of the emblem.

This reminds me of the third gen "Bengal Charger" that came up on this board a while ago. Anyone else remember that one?

yes that i remember that thread  T one :yesnod: interesting forsure ! were'nt there another thrid generation found with a bengal name plate or something too , or am i getting confused with something else  :scratchchin: :popcrn:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

stripedelete

I would guess promotional.  Spitzer was a mega dealer before they coined the term.  At the time they were was plenty large enough to tweak a large number of cars for a promotion.    BUT, this is the only one I've ever seen.  :shruggy:

The emblems are definitely not from the Crusader marine engine company.  However, Crusader was popular model name with the boat companies.

Drache

The kicker being though that whomever created that Crusader logo used pretty much the same font of the Charger.
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Brock Samson

that info would appear to be '69 vintage you need info from a few years later... But i thought you might be interested...
guess not.  :shruggy:

Drache

Quote from: Brock Samson on June 16, 2011, 01:01:14 PM
that info would appear to be '69 vintage you need info from a few years later... But i thought you might be interested...
guess not.  :shruggy:

I mean I've got most Allpar pages on bookmark :D

I love reading through that site  :2thumbs:
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Quote from: F8-4life on May 02, 2011, 07:53:56 PM
The thing that is interesting is that it has "crusader" emblems on both sides and on the dash. The guy I got it from said it was a canadian charger. Although it was sold new at Spitzer dodge in Columbus, OH. Maybe it was imported?? Anybody ever heard of a crusader charger? Any info would be helpful. Thanks guys.

I'm here to tell you your not alone and it isn't the only one. I came across a '71-'74 Crusader (Charger with Crusader emblems in place of the Charger emblems) just as yours is with the exception of the exterior emblems being located on the quarter/pillar area. This one was located in a local junkyard here in Columbus, OH, I came across it looking for parts for my '88 Daytona Shelby Z at the time. I did retrieve all 3 emblems (2 exterior sides and 1 passenger side dash) since I had never seen or heard of such a Charger and I have yet to find out anything definitive about them. I too figure it to have been a renaming for the Canadian exports.

I think the exterior Crusader emblems I have are script only like the typical Charger script, without the solid background on the right half that the dash emblem has, but I'll have to wait until I get to my storage shed and find them to confirm this one way or the other.

F8-4life

Thanks for the reply! That's really cool you found one in a junkyard, I wish there was stuff like that in yards now. Anymore its mostly new stuff in and around columbus. I couldn't find any info really on the Cruasader package but the guy I got it from said he looked into it and he thought it was a Canadian car. It's a 318 colume shift, with the base dash and no A/C. Thanks again for the info it's good to know as much as I can.

71ROADRUNNER

It was around 10 years ago and I was floored to find anything like it there, as you've mentioned they usually only have newer cars. This junkyard had a suprising amount of rarer cars such as the Crusader, a couple Shelby Z Daytona's, a Turbo Z Daytona, a couple twin turbo Stealth's and turbo Talon's, a Shelby Charger, a Chrysler Conquest Tsi or two, etc. I only grabbed the Crusader emblems because I'd never seen or heard of one and because I knew it would be crushed at any time since it was far older. They also had a few other old Mopars that were from the 60's and 70's, but they were nothing worth remembering and the last time I was there was around '05 to get an interior A-pillar trim panel to cut up and attach my 3 gauge full pillar pod to in my '04 SRT-4 and they still had some rare late models, but the older ones were gone.

I would like to know why, with the vast resources of the internet, there is nothing on or about these Crusader's? You would think that if it were simply a Canadian rebadge that it would be fairly well known or if it were a dealer thing, like the Bengal Charger's, that it would be at least as well known as they are.

Magnumcharger

Found this on the web. Yes, it really doesn't apply in this circumstance.
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

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1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

F8-4life

Update on this old thread, I might have the chance to get this car back.
$1500 & runs. I'm thinking it might be a good buy.