Concensus on 06 Charger RT

[69Charger500]

Ghoste, to answer your question more directly, we almost never know the name of a car during early development, other than the body model designation, which is how we refer to them.  There are, of course, rumors and speculation, but that is all they are...

[69Charger500]

Another thought...   The consensus here seems to be the 2nd generation Charger is the favorite amongst enthusiasts, collectors, etc.  It took a 1st generation Charger for that evolution to occur, didn't it?

Maybe the 2nd generation of the new Charger will prove to be equally as popular as the 2nd generation of the original??

[my69]

Although the car is still the subject of some controversy over the four door styling, I challenge the true Mopar enthusiasts to get behind the wheel of a 2006 R/T, Daytona, or better yet, an SRT Charger.  Just try to keep that same grin off your face that you get when you drive your vintage Charger or Challenger, and the same pride of driving a truly unique and exciting vehicle.

That's fine but much the same can be said about most new performance cars today. The fact remains that until now Dodge never made a four-door Charger and those of us who know what a Charger is don't recognize trhis car as being one. All you guys had to do was name it something else and ther wouldn't be any controversy at all. If it was a Coronet it would be fine, but as it stands I consider the car an ugly POS no matter how fast it is.

BINGO!!  Exactly what went through my mind    Also stated earlier about the "GERMANS" know diddly squat about American nosticality (spelling?) IF anything the name "CORONET" should've been used AM I WRONG for saying this   Then DCX could evolve the "CHARGER" UNDER the coronet making it as it should be a "2-door"
CHEERS
Winston

[BigBlackDodge]

Another thought...     The consensus here seems to be the 2nd generation Charger is the favorite amongst enthusiasts, collectors, etc.   It took a 1st generation Charger for that evolution to occur, didn't it?

Maybe the 2nd generation of the new Charger will prove to be equally as popular as the 2nd generation of the original??

So DCX purposely made the '06 fugly knowing in a few years they'll desgin a winner? Hardly. Using this logic they can only improve in the styling department I guess.


BBD

[TheGhost]

the last generation T-Bird convertable... HELLOOOOOOO!!! A HOT PHORD ON A CHRYSLER DEALEEEEER

Sorry, Nacho, but those cars were mediocre sellers at best.

[TheGhost]

So..... you based your decision on the opinions of just 6 members?  You only gave the thread an hour and a half...  Either you already had your mind made up, and were looking to stir the pot a little, or you could be from the LX forums.  They like coming over here to troll a little from time to time....  Something smells fishy about this post.

This sounds to me like someone who just doesn't like the tone of this thread...nothing more.

Hardly.  I had the same thought when I originally read the post, just decided to keep quiet, in case I was wrong.  There is a precident.  You all remember the other One Post Wonders about the new Charger, don't you?

You just keep telling yoursel that the Creeder is the greatest thing since sliced bread

Far from it.  It is however the best thing from Dodge in almost 30 years, and a general step in the right direction.

[chargervert]

I just say DITTO,wait for the Challenger.That other car ain't no Charger,I don't care what emblems they put on it.I saw that 2 door one that someone built,and it still wasn't a Charger!

[84shelby]

           No market for two door cars             What about all the 350Z 's   ,   Rx8 's   and the rest of the

           2 door imports I see   buzzing around.

              

[bull]

Let's just say that in the design/development process of a vehicle, there are a lot of things up in the air which do not affect testing and early development.   Later, when a car begins to take on an "identity," it is further tuned and developed to match that identity and market.

OK. I'll clarify (not worried about my job).   Brand and name recognition are a huge part of this business, and this business is VERY competitive right now.   Targeting the right market is crucial to keeping a plant running at capacity.   If the powers-that-be thought a two-door Charger would have done that (and maybe it would have), then a two door Charger it would have been.   My job, along with the rest of the engineering community, is to execute whatever program is given to us in as professional and successful a manner as possible.   The Team that was responsible for that is very happy with the car, and there are many, many enthusiasts among us.

Not everybody likes everything.   Would I have liked a real retro Charger??   You bet I would.   Do I like the new Charger??   Very much...   It is a fantastic car, and I look forward to getting one, hopefully soon...   Make mine an SRT in Sublime...

You're not getting it and the whole DCX team doesn't get it either. It's not a Charger just because you give it the name Charger. You've built a doghouse and you're calling it a toaster. You cannot evoke a name like Charger and then ignore everything it has stood for over the past 40 years. Well, you can but it's idiocy at its finest. DCX is apparently in some sort of mind-numbed, lock-stepped denial about this.

[bull]

You just keep telling yoursel that the Creeder is the greatest thing since sliced bread

Far from it.   It is however the best thing from Dodge in almost 30 years, and a general step in the right direction.

[TheGhost]

You just keep telling yoursel that the Creeder is the greatest thing since sliced bread

Far from it.  It is however the best thing from Dodge in almost 30 years, and a general step in the right direction.

You prefer the likes of the Caravan, or the Neon?  Perhaps the Shadow?  The Stratus?  Dynasty?

Viper does not count, as that car is unaffordable to most people.

Affordable performance V-8 RWD is a definate step in the right direction.  Even you will have to admit that.

[Shakey]

This whole thread cracks me up.  You guys are like the lemmings that follow each other off of the cliff.   

Some fella posts a question about a car currently available and one that might be available in a few years and you guys end up in the same debate you have been having for the past 18 months.  This is comical.  I am starting to wonder if one actually types new posts or simlply goes back a few weeks and copies and pastes the old ones?   

Great stuff!

[Troy]

This whole thread cracks me up. You guys are like the lemmings that follow each other off of the cliff.

Some fella posts a question about a car currently available and one that might be available in a few years and you guys end up in the same debate you have been having for the past 18 months. This is comical. I am starting to wonder if one actually types new posts or simlply goes back a few weeks and copies and pastes the old ones?

Great stuff!

Welcome to the wonderful world of internet forums.

Seriously, it's the same everywhere you go - which is why many old-timers get burned out (especially on tech questions).

Troy

[bull]

I am starting to wonder if one actually types new posts or simlply goes back a few weeks and copies and pastes the old ones?   

Great stuff!

That's a great idea. I'm going to start saving my '06 Chagnum bumper sticker quotes in Word for later use. It would save a lot of time.

[Paul G]

As good a car as the New Charger may be DCX still missed the mark. Personally I would not want a full sized high performance 4 door sedan to drag the kids around in. Base model V6, who wants that? There are better choices for basic transportation than a V6 new Charger. What demographic was the car intended for, us old guys who remember what a Charger is supposed to be? We recognize that the new one is not it! The Charger name represents performance. Ain't gonna spend R/T or Daytona kind of bucks on that car just for the Charger name. It's a four door for pete's sake. If it actually brought back memory's of what a Charger looked like back in the day then yes sir I would pay the bucks for a performance car with the Charger name. If they build the Chally like the one being shown watch what will happen. Sales will go through the roof. My wife even wants a new Chally. Plum crazy of course!

It seems to me that DCX kinda thought that this new Charger would be a lower cost full size performance car similar to a full size Mercedes performance car. I dint know the names of the Mercedes line but I have seen them in the ritzy neighborhoods around the Chicago suburbs. DCX never expected the Charger name would hit a nerve with the die hard American fans of the Real Charger the way it did.

[my69]

As good a car as the New Charger may be DCX still missed the mark. Personally I would not want a full sized high performance 4 door sedan to drag the kids around in. Base model V6, who wants that? There are better choices for basic transportation than a V6 new Charger. What demographic was the car intended for, us old guys who remember what a Charger is supposed to be? We recognize that the new one is not it! The Charger name represents performance. Ain't gonna spend R/T or Daytona kind of bucks on that car just for the Charger name. It's a four door for pete's sake. If it actually brought back memory's of what a Charger looked like back in the day then yes sir I would pay the bucks for a performance car with the Charger name. If they build the Chally like the one being shown watch what will happen. Sales will go through the roof. My wife even wants a new Chally. Plum crazy of course!

Well Would you believe that the '06 has seen interest by the police I mean our police department in the town I live in are getting 4 chargers for there police officers Now to me that just seems totally wrong  

[6670charger]

I'd like to say wait for the Challenger.  Only problem is, after what happened with the Charger, I wouldn't be surprised to see the new Challenger sedan as the replacement for the Stratus on your dealer lots soon.

[hemihead]

Does this mean if you put a tued in a box, mark the box Rose everyone will want one? It is an ugly yuppie box.It has a Hemi(sort of) that cuts ignition to the cylinders and a traction control that you can't accerate under full throttle at a standing start.So why even have a Hemi?
Remember the geeks at school who ran around in the 4dr. Chevelles who thought they had a race car and the girls would walk past and laugh at? Well,this Creed is for you!   

[TheGhost]

Well Would you believe that the '06 has seen interest by the police I mean our police department in the town I live in are getting 4 chargers for there police officers Now to me that just seems totally wrong  

How is it wrong?  The car is much better than the Crown Vic it would replace.  The Crown Vic is an adequate pursuit car, to quote a cop from Moparts, not an exceptional one.  The Charger is faster, and to judge by all I've heard about Crown Vics exploading, probably much safer, as well.

Or, are you just worried about the cops having better cars?

[ChargerBill]

Well Would you believe that the '06 has seen interest by the police I mean our police department in the town I live in are getting 4 chargers for there police officers Now to me that just seems totally wrong  

How is it wrong?  The car is much better than the Crown Vic it would replace.  The Crown Vic is an adequate pursuit car, to quote a cop from Moparts, not an exceptional one.  The Charger is faster, and to judge by all I've heard about Crown Vics exploading, probably much safer, as well.

Or, are you just worried about the cops having better cars?

Actually I think it makes the perfect Crown Vic replacement...more performance yet still acceptably cop-car ugly...PERFECT! Yep, as a FLEET vehicle DCX and Creedhole did it right. Hey, at least it's good for something.

BTW: How many Crown Vics did you see on the road driven by civilians AFTER CHP and local PD's started using them as cop cars? Not too many. And whenever you saw a 5.0 Mustang on the road what was the FIRST thing that came to mind? P.O.S. cop car... Yep, DCX designed a winner here...or was that WEINER?!!

[Big Lebowski]

I have been thinking about buying the new Dodge Charger or waiting for the Challenger. What is the general concensus on the 06 Charger RT? I intend to keep whatever I get, for 30+ years. Thanks!

  Actually, I dont like the 4 door Charger, we had a poll when the car came out, we voted 90% to 10% that we did not like it. Period, end of story. Buy your mom one, they like boring 4 door cars. I've owned & restored over 11 '68-'70 Charger R/T's and I said it back then and I still stand by my words...The 4 door Charger is a disgrace to the good name Charger.

  Save your money for the new Challenger and welcome to the site.

[TheGhost]

BTW: How many Crown Vics did you see on the road driven by civilians AFTER CHP and local PD's started using them as cop cars? Not too many.

I think that may be due, in part, to all the milage and general wear that those cars had.  I know that I wouldn't want a car after the cops were done using it.

[TK73]

Is the Chagnum the Interpid replacement?

[TK73]

BTW: How many Crown Vics did you see on the road driven by civilians AFTER CHP and local PD's started using them as cop cars? Not too many.

See 'em every day. Very popular with the old-guy crowd.

I've been looking for one, used cop car would be fine with me.

[ChargerBill]

BTW: How many Crown Vics did you see on the road driven by civilians AFTER CHP and local PD's started using them as cop cars? Not too many.

I think that may be due, in part, to all the milage and general wear that those cars had.  I know that I wouldn't want a car after the cops were done using it.

What we have here is a failure to communicate......

OK, I'll go slower and fill in the blanks this time: How many OTHER Crown Vics did you see on the roads WHILE the CHP and other PD's were using them as rollers? Meaning, once they were labeled with the "cop car" stigma, no one really wanted them as daily drivers.