Concensus on 06 Charger RT

[xs29j8Bullitt]

In the spirit of the the thread title, could we at least come to the consensus, (which means "general agreement or accord") that the '06 should not have been given the name "Charger"? Aside from it's looks, features and performance, which can be argued until the end of time, most if not all people who frequent this board had certain expectations as to what a modern Charger would look like. For better or worse in the eyes of each individual I think it's safe to say that the modern "Charger" did not meet those expectations. Am I right? In other words, if DCX had given the car a name other than "Charger" we would not be having these discussions, correct?

I have no problem fully agreeing with your statement... I would have a black new Charger next to my triple black '68 if it looked like the 1999 concept car (or different, but with a styling better fitting the name).

BUT, that being said, the current car IS the Charger... and I feel it is rude to insult the owners, ban the cars from shows, or even worse vandalize the cars... that's just nuts!

BTW... Well said Bull!

XS

[Lightning]

I test drove a darkish green R/T model yesturday.....needless to say I wasn't impressed.  (even my LeBaron felt faster when I first got it)

[TheGhost]

In the spirit of the the thread title, could we at least come to the consensus, (which means "general agreement or accord") that the '06 should not have been given the name "Charger"? Aside from it's looks, features and performance, which can be argued until the end of time, most if not all people who frequent this board had certain expectations as to what a modern Charger would look like. For better or worse in the eyes of each individual I think it's safe to say that the modern "Charger" did not meet those expectations. Am I right? In other words, if DCX had given the car a name other than "Charger" we would not be having these discussions, correct?

Agreed.

I test drove a darkish green R/T model yesturday.....needless to say I wasn't impressed. (even my LeBaron felt faster when I first got it)

Really now?  A 318 Lebaron that MIGHT be pushing 180 horsepower felt faster than a car that has 340 horses.  Yea.....

[Silver R/T]

Welcome to the site skibuff.

I am also a fan of the new Charger. I actually was looking at an SRT8 a couple weeks back but $52K CDN + taxes - ouch!

I am not quite ready for a new car but will seriously consider the new Charger if my Wife absolutely puts the kibash on the 2dr Challenger ideas. Got two baby seats to consider!

Post some pics of both of your cars when you get a chance.

might as well buy one of these,
holds 5 people
cheaper on gas
4 door for you family guys
fast and upgradeable
AWD with three modes (tarmac, gravel, snow)

[rossb]

I test drove a darkish green R/T model yesturday.....needless to say I wasn't impressed.  (even my LeBaron felt faster when I first got it)

Yeah sure, what a crock of B.S..  They don't even make a green '06 Charger  Some of the comments in this thread are just downright laughable.

[bull]

I test drove a darkish green R/T model yesturday.....needless to say I wasn't impressed.  (even my LeBaron felt faster when I first got it)

Yeah sure, what a crock of B.S..  They don't even make a green '06 Charger  Some of the comments in this thread are just downright laughable.

Oh lookie, another one-post wonder newbie '06 apologist rears his ugly head. Did the janitors at DCX HQ find our website?

[Orange_Crush]

I test drove a darkish green R/T model yesturday.....needless to say I wasn't impressed.  (even my LeBaron felt faster when I first got it)

Yeah sure, what a crock of B.S..  They don't even make a green '06 Charger  Some of the comments in this thread are just downright laughable.

Oh lookie, another one-post wonder newbie '06 apologist rears his ugly head. Did the janitors at DCX HQ find our website?

Bull, if the dude says he drove a green '06 and there's no such thing as a green '06...then he'd have to be lying wouldn't he?  No apologist here...just pointing out a blatant baldfaced lie.

[chargedup]

In the spirit of the the thread title, could we at least come to the consensus, (which means "general agreement or accord") that the '06 should not have been given the name "Charger"? Aside from it's looks, features and performance, which can be argued until the end of time, most if not all people who frequent this board had certain expectations as to what a modern Charger would look like. For better or worse in the eyes of each individual I think it's safe to say that the modern "Charger" did not meet those expectations. Am I right? In other words, if DCX had given the car a name other than "Charger" we would not be having these discussions, correct?

Correct!!
If they had called it a Monaco the controversy would still be there maybe but it would still be more acceptable to most mopar fans out there.

[rossb]

Oh lookie, another one-post wonder newbie '06 apologist rears his ugly head. Did the janitors at DCX HQ find our website?

Hmm, ok.  Just cutting through the B.S. my friend.

[bull]

I test drove a darkish green R/T model yesturday.....needless to say I wasn't impressed.  (even my LeBaron felt faster when I first got it)

Yeah sure, what a crock of B.S..  They don't even make a green '06 Charger  Some of the comments in this thread are just downright laughable.

Oh lookie, another one-post wonder newbie '06 apologist rears his ugly head. Did the janitors at DCX HQ find our website?

Bull, if the dude says he drove a green '06 and there's no such thing as a green '06...then he'd have to be lying wouldn't he?  No apologist here...just pointing out a blatant baldfaced lie.

It just seems a bit odd to me that we occasionally get two or three new guys at a time who come here and dredge up months-old '06 threads just to stir up the you-know-what. They post less than ten times, rarely mention anything related to a classic Charger and then leave.

[rossb]

It just seems a bit odd to me that we occasionally get two or three new guys at a time who come here and dredge up months-old '06 threads just to stir up the you-know-what. They post less than ten times, rarely mention anything related to a classic Charger and then leave.

I didn't "dredge" up this topic, someone else did.  I don't see anything on this site that says we are only allowed to discuss the classic Charger.  Are we allowed to discuss the 4-cyl FWD Omni based Charger from the 80s?  It seems as though the new car is only upsetting some of the owners of the older cars.  The sales numbers are good so the general public must like it.

[Headrope]

Why does it matter if there is consensus or not?

[Silver R/T]

http://www.dodge.com/charger/colors_wheels.html

actually there's color available, magnesium pearl coat. It looks green to me, at least on their site

[bull]

It just seems a bit odd to me that we occasionally get two or three new guys at a time who come here and dredge up months-old '06 threads just to stir up the you-know-what. They post less than ten times, rarely mention anything related to a classic Charger and then leave.

I didn't "dredge" up this topic, someone else did.  I don't see anything on this site that says we are only allowed to discuss the classic Charger.  Are we allowed to discuss the 4-cyl FWD Omni based Charger from the 80s?  It seems as though the new car is only upsetting some of the owners of the older cars.  The sales numbers are good so the general public must like it.

"We" are allowed to discuss any motorized vehicle in general discussion but good taste prohibits many from spending much time on the Cordoba, Omni and now the Magnum Charger until someone decides to stir the pot. The Magnum Sedan is only being discussed here because the suits running DCX think we're dumb enough to believe it's a Charger just because they ran off 100,000 nameplates that say so. And you're right, the sales figures paint a good picture, especially when the company sets the sights nice and low.

[rossb]

Ignorance at its best.

[Lightning]

well, to correct myself, it was a 2007 Charger R/T (Chagnum, Magnum Sedan, POS......how many names do we have for it now?) It was kinda a blue-ish green, kinda fugly really.  It's just the sensation of speed is better in my old Chrysler than the new......Chagnum/Magnum Sedan/POS.

[TheGhost]

well, to correct myself, it was a 2007 Charger R/T (Chagnum, Magnum Sedan, POS......how many names do we have for it now?) It was kinda a blue-ish green, kinda fugly really.  It's just the sensation of speed is better in my old Chrysler than the new......Chagnum/Magnum Sedan/POS.

The sensation of speed in an older car is stronger than in a newer car.  Hell, my tired old slant 6 Dart FELT faster than when a friend took me for a ride in his late model Camaro.  Doesn't mean a damn thing, other than the new cars have a far better suspension than your lebaron or my old Dart.

[Mike DC]

 
A general comment:  The sales figures are not the whole story.


--  "Projected sales" are a wild guess by the company before the car is released.  DCX can set that figure wherever they wanna set it in order to make the Charger look like a hit.  Doesn't actually make it a hit.

--  And if a car sells 3X the "projected sales figure" the first year and then only sells 2.8X the original "projected sales figure" the year afterward . . . is that small downturn in the second year really a sign of "failure?"  Of course not.  The new Mustang's sales can drop 9% or 11% or whatever next year; The car is still a MASSIVE success overall.

 

[SeattleCharger]

  Hmm, buy the new Challenger.     

    When the new Charger cop cars are all sold at auction and become the new taxi cabs, driving around the cities with big plastic signs on the roofs, painted orange or yellow or white with cop rims, it just won't seem that cool.    Think about it.    The odds are your new Challenger will not be the taxi cab behind you in traffic. 

[azraelck]

You know it's always fun to come into a forum, and look through these threads.

Even on general automotive forums, and those dedicated to other vehicles; the '06/07 Chargers aren't really well recieved by the enthusiast groups. The Izuzu p'up board generally doesn't like them. As for me, I think it's a adequet sedan, if it was in my price range and had a manual transmission; I'd love one with a 3.5l V6. In fact, that's the main reason I haven't found a car to buy; the only two "options" I want are a CD player and a manual trans. CDs are easy to find, stick shifts are not. Plus one of the local DCX dealers royally pissed me off when one of the sales men stalked me to my car and stepped up so I couldn't shut my door. Not a way to gain a sale; though it is a way to get shot. 

As for preformance, I wouldn't expect much feel, with a suspension tuned for a family sedan, and a 2.73 Gear Ratio in the rear (remember the 36mpg Feather Duster? It had a 2.79. Or did I get them backwards?) But when comparing 1/4 mile numbers, think about it for just a second... the old cars were not run on modern radials; a 14.4 sec 1/4 mile in 1969 is a bit quicker on 2006 tires. I'd say not bad for a 2 ton behemoth with the aerodynamic properties of a M4 "Sherman" Medium Tank. All it needs is a turret and a 75mm M3.

I haven't seen real gas mileage numbers on the LX's save for this thread (someone mentioned 29mpg on the highway with a V6), so I can't comment on that. I don't go by the EPA numbers; 20mph average speeds in the city and 45mph average on the highway does not make for an accurate reading. I'd expect with the Hemi, it'd probably be about like a M4, except without the cool factor of driving something that is almost as big as a H2, and three times as safe, with better fuel economy.

[Darkness]

If DCX don't build the Challenger I'll take an 05-06 Mustwang GT please. 

[rossb]

well, to correct myself, it was a 2007 Charger R/T (Chagnum, Magnum Sedan, POS......how many names do we have for it now?) It was kinda a blue-ish green, kinda fugly really.

Congratulations, you must be the first person to drive a 2007.  The car isn't even released yet.

[Darkness]

Sorry but, I don't see any 07s for sale on E-Bay.

[bull]

Ignorance at its best.

That's what I was thinking. Some schmuck becomes a member less than 24 hours ago, posts five times and already he knows it all.

[Ghoste]

Another thought that occurs to me when discussing it's sales results, how do they compare to the intermediate four door family sedan that it replaced?  Did the Intrepid sell similar numbers, better, or poorer?