Concensus on 06 Charger RT

[4forty]

still real ugly, 4 doors or not. although you could put a SRT Hemi in a pile of crap and I'd love to drive it!..............oh yeah, they did.

[defiance]

O NOES!  TEH THREDD!  EET IS BAAAACK!!!!

We need a zombie smiley

[Orange_Crush]

Either way you go, if you buy a new car looking to keep it 30 years, buy something you'll like and enjoy.

Personally, I like the Charger and I don't like the Challenger.

The Charger is powerful, comfortable, handles very well and is easy to live with.  It is well suited to its intended mission.

Can the same be said for the Challenger?  well...no.

Yes they are both bui;lt on the same platform, and that's the problem.  The Challenger is meant to be competing against a smaller, lighter, more nimble car.  In this capacity, the Challenger is an overweight hog.

If I want a '70/'71 Challenger, I'll just buy one.  The originals are much more attractive.

Myself, if I'm in the market for a 2-door ponycar in the future, I'll probably go for the Camaro.

[Dale The Bold]

Not everybody likes everything.  Would I have liked a real retro Charger??  You bet I would.  Do I like the new Charger??  Very much...  It is a fantastic car, and I look forward to getting one, hopefully soon...  Make mine an SRT in Sublime...

You're not the one who screwed up.  The Dodge Enforcer is a great car, no doubt, but it should have been called the Enforcer.  It's a perfect name for the car.  But to call it a "Charger," is ridiculous, and is a result of the "dummies are always in charge" rule.  They might as well have called it "The USS Enterprise" just to capitalize on a recognized name, and since similarity to the original is completely disregarded. 

I don't care if the car runs on air, travels through time, cures cancer, stops the aging process, and diamonds come out of the exhaust.  It's not a Charger.  Telling us how great the car is changes nothing about the fact that the erroneous naming of the car is offensive to the consumer.  Whoever made the call to name that wonderful, awesomely engineered car that inappropriate name made one of the largest corporate blunders so far of the 21st century.

Four doors mean nothing to me.  One of the most beautiful cars I ever saw was a four door.  The '99 Charger concept.

[plum500]

I don't care if the car runs on air, travels through time, cures cancer, stops the aging process, and diamonds come out of the exhaust.  It's not a Charger.

[Brock Samson]

O NOES!  TEH THREDD!  EET IS BAAAACK!!!!

We need a zombie smiley

 


Hense: the Beaten Horsey...

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=search2

also see:

"Deadhorse"
"Beaten Horse"
"Ugly"
"Abomination"
"Creeder"
 "'06 Sedan"
"Checker Cab"
       And My favorite...   
"Blunderbus".

[19Charger68]

Whew!  I read this whole thing.  When the new Charger's first came out I went to our local Dodge Dealer to see it.  The salesman, a friend of mine, took me over to where the car was and the first words out of my mouth were "that's not a Charger!".  Anyway, like most of you, I think it is a decent car but certainly agree that it was a total disgrace to name it a Charger.  What a disappointment!  The plans that they had for the Charger sometime around 2000 looked great.  If they would have left it like that, I would have bought, 4 doors or not!

[mikepmcs]

this should settle it. courtesy of chargerboy69.  new chally video! no question in my mind i want to own this.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=115459#43

v/r
Mike

[Chris G.]

So who is this Skibuff guy that felt like bringing up a thread from 5 months ago? It's his only post. 

Always liked the '06 and see no reason why not to. I think the new Chally will very disappointing to many of you. Don't ask me how I know, but I sense that feeling.

I'll take one of these please. 

[TheGhost]

ll take one of these please. 

In black, please and thank you.


Or perhaps that Burnt Orange/Go ManGo color.  That's a sharp looking color....

[Mike DC]

  
This whole topic has been beaten to death many times already.

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--  The '06 Charger is a mechanical success and a good value for the money, but it's a stylistic trainwreck for the name it wears.  Nothing else to say.

--  The proposed Challenger concept will be a mechanical success and a stylistic success.  But it looks like DCX may still shoot themselves in the foot by pushing the car too far towards the Lexus market with extra luxury & price & curb weight.  

 

[Ghoste]

Not to mention a very good chance of being too late for the retro party.

[Orange_Crush]

 
This whole topic has been beaten to death many times already.

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--  The '06 Charger is a mechanical success and a good value for the money, but it's a stylistic trainwreck for the name it wears.  Nothing else to say.

Obviously enough people like it to make it a sales success considering its sold 30,000 more units in a year than projected.  

--  The proposed Challenger concept will be a mechanical success and a stylistic success.  But it looks like DCX may still shoot themselves in the foot by pushing the car too far towards the Lexus market with extra luxury & price & curb weight.  

No factual basis here.  The car is going to be waaay too too heavy for its intended market.  The Mustang weighs in at almost 500 pounds less and the Camaro is projected to weigh much less as well.  In addition, both the Mustang and Camaro are MUCH smaller than the Challeneger.  As far as the "lexus market" is concerned.  Keep in mind that V-6 base Mustangs sell for 26 grand and up with the upcoming GT500 seeing a price well into the 45 grand range.  That's the going price for these cars nowadays.  If Dodge offers a V-6 model (and my money says they will), I exepct that it will sell for 27-8 grand for the base model with the supercar version getting up to 48 grand.

[472 R/T SE]

As much as most of you hate the Charger, I feel the same about the Challenger.  It (the challenger) has no value to me, if I want to be the Hot Rod Dad that I am, I need the 4 doors of the Charger.
Besides, I already have a 2 door Chally & Charger.   

[Orange_Crush]

Not to mention a very good chance of being too late for the retro party.

Good point.  Retro is a fad.  GM is doing the right thing by making the Camaro acknowledge the past, but look like a completely new car.  

[Big Lebowski]

Not to mention a very good chance of being too late for the retro party.

Ya and who else is to blame for that other than the ignorant "Anti-Retro" Mr Creed himself. (Trevor Creed, ex-Ford employee, now VP Daimler Chrysler for those of you in Rio Linda.) The retro Mustang sells 175,000 units this year, and the boring 4 door disgrace makes its low expectations of a measly 60,000. Big deal, Ford sells the cookies and we got the crumbs.

   

[Headrope]

Yeah. Ford really knows what it's doing ...

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/may2006/tc20060525_098532.htm

"Sales of Ford-branded cars and trucks are off about 4% this year, and its market share has dropped by more than half a percentage point through April.

Market shares of Jaguar and Volvo are also down, while Lincoln and Mercury market shares are flat. Sales of onetime juggernaut Ford Explorer are off 30%. The Expedition SUV, despite a redesign, is off 25%. Even sales of the Mustang, Ford's hot passenger car last year, are off almost 9% this year. The Ford brand's share of U.S. light-vehicle sales fell to 14.8% in April, compared with 15.7% a year earlier and 25.7% a decade ago, according to Autodata.

[Big Lebowski]

Yeah. Ford really knows what it's doing ...

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/may2006/tc20060525_098532.htm

"Sales of Ford-branded cars and trucks are off about 4% this year, and its market share has dropped by more than half a percentage point through April.

Market shares of Jaguar and Volvo are also down, while Lincoln and Mercury market shares are flat. Sales of onetime juggernaut Ford Explorer are off 30%. The Expedition SUV, despite a redesign, is off 25%. Even sales of the Mustang, Ford's hot passenger car last year, are off almost 9% this year. The Ford brand's share of U.S. light-vehicle sales fell to 14.8% in April, compared with 15.7% a year earlier and 25.7% a decade ago, according to Autodata.

  The key words there...Mustang, Ford's hot passenger car. Ok yawn, now imagine the sound of crickets when looking for Dodge's answer to a car that always sells in larger numbers than the yawn again, unleashed Dodge Charger R/T Hemi Daytona Super Bee SRT-8.
     Even though Mustang sales are down 9% Dodge has NOTHING to offer to that 9% To get back to the point, that idiot Trevor Creed is proud of his 60,000 Charger sales, but the 175,000 still un-answered "retro" Mustang sales keep Ford on top of the 2 door car market. Of course there is no 2 door car market, more visionary words from the man with no vision.

   ***Don't make me post the Dodge Nitro pic again, you know another one of Trevor Creed's visionary designs.***

                         

     

[plum500]

'06 Charger might as well be a Hyundai with a Hemi.

[cobradriver]

i for one like the new charger...as long as its the hemi version.   Yeah mustangs got it right as far as retro but there are billions everywhere.   I like the new charger for what it is...good looking car with decent performance.   I want my wife to get a black one....so we have 3 black dodges......my hemi ram, hemi 06 charger,  and maybe after afgan a hemi crate motor for the 69 charger?....hmmmmmm all 3 black with the red bumble bee stripe.....heheeehehehe

[xs29j8Bullitt]

Just got back from having my 2004 Ram serviced at the local Dodge dealership.  They had a neat display of three black cars... Hemi Magnum, Hemi Charger, and Hemi Charger SRT8. A yellow Ram SRT10 was also part of the display.  Although I am definitely waiting for the Challenger to come out, the black SRT8 looked great...  I saw another black Charger SRT8 on the road yesterday, and it looked even better in motion!

Like many others, I am not happy with DCX using the Charger name on this car... but it is a neat car none-the-less...  If I had a need for a 4 door car, I would probably get one..

JMHO...

XS

[472 R/T SE]

xs29j8Bullitt, which dealership is that?  I thought you were in the Metroplex area? 
My mom's the comptroller @ the biggest Mopar dealership in that area, just curious.

[xs29j8Bullitt]

xs29j8Bullitt, which dealership is that?  I thought you were in the Metroplex area? 
My mom's the comptroller @ the biggest Mopar dealership in that area, just curious.

The dealership is Allen Samuels Alliance Dodge on I-35N just north of Golden Triangle Blvd... about 15 miles north of Fort Worth.

Metroplex area for sure, where did you think the pictures were taken?

XS

[bull]

In the spirit of the the thread title, could we at least come to the consensus, (which means "general agreement or accord") that the '06 should not have been given the name "Charger"? Aside from it's looks, features and performance, which can be argued until the end of time, most if not all people who frequent this board had certain expectations as to what a modern Charger would look like. For better or worse in the eyes of each individual I think it's safe to say that the modern "Charger" did not meet those expectations. Am I right? In other words, if DCX had given the car a name other than "Charger" we would not be having these discussions, correct?

[BigBlackDodge]

In the spirit of the the thread title, could we at least come to the consensus, (which means "general agreement or accord") that the '06 should not have been given the name "Charger"? Aside from it's looks, features and performance, which can be argued until the end of time, most if not all people who frequent this board had certain expectations as to what a modern Charger would look like. For better or worse in the eyes of each individual I think it's safe to say that the modern "Charger" did not meet those expectations. Am I right? In other words, if DCX had given the car a name other than "Charger" we would not be having these discussions, correct?

BBD