Concensus on 06 Charger RT

[DodgeDan]

I have been thinking about buying the new Dodge Charger or waiting for the Challenger. What is the general concensus on the 06 Charger RT? I intend to keep whatever I get, for 30+ years. Thanks!

[phat69charger]

I would say wait for the Challenger, DCX know's the Charger is a flop, they missed out on the classic styling part, that's why the Concept Challenger looks like it does close to the original looking Classic Challenger, if you buy the Charger and the Challenger comes out and looks like it does now your stuck with a flop, so I would just wait a while.

[my73charger]

Yep wait for the Challenger...the 06 Charger (Magnum Sedan) sucks!!

[TeeWJay426]

The '06 is an OK car if you don't mind an overweight soccer mom sedan with mediocre styling..... it just makes a piss-poor Charger! Wait for the Chally.... that's what I'm doin'!!!!

[Khyron]

the Charger is a flop,

says it all.

[Silver R/T]

wouldnt waste my money on it

[TheGhost]

I would say wait for the Challenger, DCX know's the Charger is a flop

Flop?  The LX platform was a huge success.  The Charger outperforms every other car in it's class, including many that cost quite a bit more.  And it brought back affordable V-8 RWD to Dodges lineup.


What you should get depends on what you want.  Do you want a nice daily driver, or do you want a weekend only fun car?  Charger for the former, Challenger for the latter.

[rare69]

I think you should take one for a spin,without the salesmen! and see what you think.if you like it buy it if you don't wait for the promise of a dodge challenger,that is way cooler than i think they will actually offer.

[bull]

I would say wait for the Challenger, DCX know's the Charger is a flop

Flop?   The LX platform was a huge success.   The Charger outperforms every other car in it's class, including many that cost quite a bit more.   And it brought back affordable V-8 RWD to Dodges lineup.

There doesn't seem to be a lot of competition in the ugly-a$$, four-door, RWD, major dissapointment category. It's coming in 2nd, out of 2.

[DodgeDan]

Thanks guys! I was thinking this is where you guys are at. Challenger it is.  Thanks again!!

[TheGhost]

So..... you based your decision on the opinions of just 6 members?  You only gave the thread an hour and a half...  Either you already had your mind made up, and were looking to stir the pot a little, or you could be from the LX forums.  They like coming over here to troll a little from time to time....  Something smells fishy about this post.

[phat69charger]

I would say wait for the Challenger, DCX know's the Charger is a flop

Flop?   The LX platform was a huge success.   The Charger outperforms every other car in it's class, including many that cost quite a bit more.   And it brought back affordable V-8 RWD to Dodges lineup.


What you should get depends on what you want.   Do you want a nice daily driver, or do you want a weekend only fun car?   Charger for the former, Challenger for the latter.

I don't dislike the performance part of the cars DCX is producing, the problem is that they resurrected the the most televised and popular Classic Car ever produced and it has no ressemblance to the original classic that every one knows, if they pulled a wild one on everyone and made the Cuda again but it looked like something no one has ever seen before what kind of shit would that be, FORD GOT IT RIGHT with the LOOKS OF THE Mustang and GT40, do a search for car sales and see how strong the Mustang is, and don't even check for the GT40, people are paying for the right to buy the GT40 Retro car + the price of the car ford can't make them fast enough.

The GTO has a good power platform, but it lacks looks, it looks like a dressed up grand prix who wants a hi performance vehicle that has no distinctive looks and generally looks like whats already being made, that's like saying the Charger, Coronet, and the Road Runner all having the same body and just have different grilles and lights.

If you have a blue print or template that was suscessesfull, why would you deviate from it? The Hemi is still a Hemi or should they make it look like the V10 ?

[TheGhost]

the most televised and popular Classic Car ever produced

I love Chargers, but I wouldn't go that far.  I'd say both the Mustang and the Camaro have the Charger beat.  As well as the Chevelle for popularity.  Maybe the most televised and popular Mopar....

and it has no ressemblance to the original classic that every one knows

Which ones?  There were 3 generations of classic Chargers, 4 if you count the Cordoba-Chargers.

If you have a blue print or template that was suscessesfull, why would you deviate from it?

Because the said template was 35 years old.  Cars that sold well 35 years ago do not necissarlily sell well now.

[phat69charger]

Bullit, I was five years old in 69 but I remember is the car chase.
Crazy larry dirty mary, getaway car Charger
Dukes of Hazzard show lasted about six seasons
Blade Charger
Dukes of Hazzard remake, what do you think made the show a Classic Charger

I don't know about everyone else, but when someone talkes about a dodge Charger, the second gen Charger is the picture I get in my mind.

[TK73]

Because the said template was 35 years old.  Cars that sold well 35 years ago do not necissarlily sell well now.

     
"2005 Mustang is Hottest Selling Car in the US

Author: 2005 Mustang  (more...)

FORD TO INCREASE MUSTANG PRODUCTION TO MEET RUNAWAY CONSUMER DEMAND


* Ford will increase Mustang production to 192,000 in 2005 â€" 80,000
more than in 2004

* 2005 Mustang is the hottest-selling car in the industry

* Nearly one out of every two sports cars sold in U.S. is a Mustang "

http://www.carmemories.com/cgi-bin/viewexperience.cgi?experience_id=957


"Ford recently announced that to meet consumer demand for the 2005 Ford Mustang, it will take production to more than 192,000 units in 2005 - an increase of more than 58 percent, or 80,000 units, from the previous year."

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/artman/publish/2005_Mustang_Pulls_With_All_Its_Muscle.shtml

[TheGhost]

Because the said template was 35 years old.  Cars that sold well 35 years ago do not necissarlily sell well now.

     
"2005 Mustang is Hottest Selling Car in the US

Author: 2005 Mustang  (more...)

FORD TO INCREASE MUSTANG PRODUCTION TO MEET RUNAWAY CONSUMER DEMAND


* Ford will increase Mustang production to 192,000 in 2005 â€" 80,000
more than in 2004

* 2005 Mustang is the hottest-selling car in the industry

* Nearly one out of every two sports cars sold in U.S. is a Mustang "

http://www.carmemories.com/cgi-bin/viewexperience.cgi?experience_id=957


"Ford recently announced that to meet consumer demand for the 2005 Ford Mustang, it will take production to more than 192,000 units in 2005 - an increase of more than 58 percent, or 80,000 units, from the previous year."

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/artman/publish/2005_Mustang_Pulls_With_All_Its_Muscle.shtml

Because the said template was 35 years old.  Cars that sold well 35 years ago do not necissarlily sell well now.

The Mustang is an exception to quite a few automotive rules.

[bull]

Because the said template was 35 years old.   Cars that sold well 35 years ago do not necissarlily sell well now.

     
"2005 Mustang is Hottest Selling Car in the US

Author: 2005 Mustang   (more...)

FORD TO INCREASE MUSTANG PRODUCTION TO MEET RUNAWAY CONSUMER DEMAND


* Ford will increase Mustang production to 192,000 in 2005 â€" 80,000
more than in 2004

* 2005 Mustang is the hottest-selling car in the industry

* Nearly one out of every two sports cars sold in U.S. is a Mustang "

http://www.carmemories.com/cgi-bin/viewexperience.cgi?experience_id=957


"Ford recently announced that to meet consumer demand for the 2005 Ford Mustang, it will take production to more than 192,000 units in 2005 - an increase of more than 58 percent, or 80,000 units, from the previous year."

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/artman/publish/2005_Mustang_Pulls_With_All_Its_Muscle.shtml

Because the said template was 35 years old.   Cars that sold well 35 years ago do not necissarlily sell well now.

The Mustang is an exception to quite a few automotive rules.

Keep hangin' on man. The lifeboat will be there soon.

[70charginglizard]

No way would I buy a 4 door.

Wait for the challenger. At least you know that it's value will actually increase as time goes on. 

[FastbackJon]

I would say wait for the Challenger, DCX know's the Charger is a flop

Flop?  The LX platform was a huge success.  The Charger outperforms every other car in it's class, including many that cost quite a bit more.  And it brought back affordable V-8 RWD to Dodges lineup.


What you should get depends on what you want.  Do you want a nice daily driver, or do you want a weekend only fun car?  Charger for the former, Challenger for the latter.

Nope. It's a flop. That's the general consensus around here. Not a flop for the generic boring family sedan mind you, it kicks ass in that market.

But if you want a cool retro two door car that reminds you of a musclecar, wait for the BITCHIN' Challenger.

[TheGhost]

Keep hangin' on man. The lifeboat will be there soon.

Don't believe me?  One such rule is that when it comes to performance cars, the better car (in the same price class) generally sells better.  The late model Mustang outsold both the late model Camaro and Firebird COMBINED.  The F body platform was superior, the F bodies had better performance, the LS1 and LT1 engines were better than anything Ford put out, and the F bodies didn't cost all that much more than the GT.  Odd, isn't it?

Another thing the Mustang is an exception to:  Long life.  How many cars have enjoyed production for as long as the Mustang has?  I can only name the Corvette.

Another.  The Mustang went almost unchanged from the late 70s to the early 90s.  And, it still sold well.  Once again, that is unheard of.  Not even the Corvette can boast that.

Image.  EVERYONE knows the Mustang.  Including non-car people.  People who only know the Charger as "that car from that TV show", or "the black car from the Fast and the Furious", know the Mustang.

Advertising probably plays a part, too.  The new Mustang ads have been very good, especially the Steve McQueen one.  New Charger ads, not so much.

The Mustang has almost always been a good seller (excepting the Mustang IIs).  It's a given.  Unless it's image is really messed up somehow, it will continue to be one of the best selling sports cars on the market.

[TheGhost]

Wait for the challenger. At least you know that it's value will actually increase as time goes on. 

Don't count your chickens before they hatch, to use a tired old cliche.  We don't know if it's value will go up.  If trends stay the way they are now, then it probably will.  But, how often have things stayed the same for 30 straight years?

[ChargerBill]

So..... you based your decision on the opinions of just 6 members?   You only gave the thread an hour and a half...   Either you already had your mind made up, and were looking to stir the pot a little, or you could be from the LX forums.   They like coming over here to troll a little from time to time....   Something smells fishy about this post.

This sounds to me like someone who just doesn't like the tone of this thread...nothing more. The Charger is NOT a hit by any standard, however the 300 is, and THAT is why the LX platform is well into the black. You're fooling yourself if you don't think the Challenger concept is a direct response to the common belief that the Charger is ugly and a disappointment, because it IS. if the Charger were filling the market that Creedhole expected it to, I guarantee that DCX would have NEVER spent the time or money on developing the Challenger. You just keep telling yoursel that the Creeder is the greatest thing since sliced bread, the rest of us choose to live in a reality based world.

[phat69charger]

This internet thing has changed everything if you haven't noticed, right now you have members from all over the country conversating about what they think about a specific model car in real time, just think back when there was no internet discussion boards, the only time you would actually get to do the same thing is at a big meet or event, I don't know why some of the questions that are being asked that most of the members here know as common knowledge.

I would guess that the members of this discussion board that have mopars have a dodge charger or had one that was known just as that, Not a Cordoba Charger or Shelby Charger if you even count that as a Charger at all, as far as the template if I said Dukes of Hazzard or Dodge Charger or vise versa to most people out on the street not even the members of this site, they would Probably immediately associate those names with that orange car with the rebel flag on it and the 01 number on it, which happens to be Dodge Charger.

I would also say that most people probably don't know that there's a few other generations of chargers, but I'm guessing if they had to match the names of Dukes of Hazzard or Dodge Charger, with a toy model car of all of the generations of chargers they would probably pick out a second generation charger toy model.

People like Matt delaney and the TV shows and movies Nash Bridges, Dukes of Hazzard, Blade that people have seen these classic cars in the spot light have done there part to bring back the reconition and remeberence of classic mopars, people see those shows and associate a specific car with that show, I my self associate smokey and the bandit with a specific type of car, does anyone else think about a black w/ gold trim 1977 pontiac trans am firebird that's automatic to me?

it doesn't make sense for someone to ask a question about some commonly known things that a lot of people will know, because the Dukes of Hazzard show started back in 1979 and ran until 1985 and a Dukes of Hazzard movie just came out in 2005,   so it's likely that most people may not know what a Dodge Charger Charger is but if you told them it was the car on the dukes of hazzard show/movie or that general lee car they would probably associate it with a second generation Charger.

[bull]

Keep hangin' on man. The lifeboat will be there soon.

Don't believe me?   One such rule is that when it comes to performance cars, the better car (in the same price class) generally sells better.   The late model Mustang outsold both the late model Camaro and Firebird COMBINED.   The F body platform was superior, the F bodies had better performance, the LS1 and LT1 engines were better than anything Ford put out, and the F bodies didn't cost all that much more than the GT.   Odd, isn't it?

Another thing the Mustang is an exception to:   Long life.   How many cars have enjoyed production for as long as the Mustang has?   I can only name the Corvette.

Another.   The Mustang went almost unchanged from the late 70s to the early 90s.   And, it still sold well.   Once again, that is unheard of.   Not even the Corvette can boast that.

Image.   EVERYONE knows the Mustang.   Including non-car people.   People who only know the Charger as "that car from that TV show", or "the black car from the Fast and the Furious", know the Mustang.

Advertising probably plays a part, too.   The new Mustang ads have been very good, especially the Steve McQueen one.   New Charger ads, not so much.

The Mustang has almost always been a good seller (excepting the Mustang IIs).   It's a given.   Unless it's image is really messed up somehow, it will continue to be one of the best selling sports cars on the market.

 

[911bear]