Shoulder Belts in 69's ?

[RallyeMike]

Hopefully a simple question: What's the deal with shoulder belts in 69's? My first one had them. The 500 project I recently picked up does not. Were they optional? If so, was this indicated on the fender tag or just the broadcast sheet?

[tan top]

as far as i know  they were standard equiptment on the 69 model year   its 68s  shoulder belts were an option  i think     

[440]

Shoulder belts look fugly in a 69 dangling down from the headliner.... At least GM's they gave you a clip in the headliner where you could fold it up out of the way

[tan top]

Shoulder belts look fugly in a 69 dangling down from the headliner.... At least GM's they gave you a clip in the headliner where you could fold it up out of the way

shoulder belts !!
they do clip to the sunvisor mounting  bracket when not in use

factory belt set up is a pain compared to modern stuff

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

They only dangle when you have worn out elastic.....

Front shoulder belts were standard in '69.....rear shoulder belts were optional

[440]

Shoulder belts look fugly in a 69 dangling down from the headliner.... At least GM's they gave you a clip in the headliner where you could fold it up out of the way

shoulder belts !!
they do clip to the sunvisor mounting  bracket when not in use

factory belt set up is a pain compared to modern stuff

Interesting, I'll have to have a look at mine again. In Australia factory US standard belts aren't accepted so mine have been replaced with Australian standard belts..... 

[tan top]

Shoulder belts look fugly in a 69 dangling down from the headliner.... At least GM's they gave you a clip in the headliner where you could fold it up out of the way

shoulder belts !!
they do clip to the sunvisor mounting  bracket when not in use

factory belt set up is a pain compared to modern stuff

Interesting, I'll have to have a look at mine again. In Australia factory US standard belts aren't accepted so mine have been replaced with Australian standard belts.....  

oh right i see, they are prolly better that the factory set up  , a member on here (charger downunder)

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=292

fitted some good aftermarket  ones i think ! or i might have got confused with something else ! , sorry Dude if its not you  

[doctor4766]

As far as I can tell my '69 only had front laps belts (which wouldn't pass rego inspection in Western Australia) but I wanted shoulder belts anyway so I fitted retractables up front.
My back ones are the original lap belts and I plan to change the rear outers to retractables too since my son often rides up back. The car is far from original anyway so what does it matter?

[440]

Now I'm intrigued yet disappointed at the same time. There is no way to tuck my belts out of the way as it is all one unit. Retract and anchor both bolted on the floor and to the headliner.

Now I wonder if it's possible to get an OEM style belt in Australian standards....

I wonder what the fine/consequences are if a cop finds you using US issued belts on the road.


Hopefully ChargerDownunder can post some pictures of his set up if it's him...

[RallyeMike]

Thanks for the feedback. Since the headliner is not perforated for a belt, I guess perhaps they were removed a long time ago and new headliner installed.....

[tatrick2me]

Hopefully a simple question: What's the deal with shoulder belts in 69's? My first one had them. The 500 project I recently picked up does not. Were they optional? If so, was this indicated on the fender tag or just the broadcast sheet?

Starting with the 68 model year the law required all cars to have front shoulder harnesses. Starting with the 69 model year head rests where and option until Jan 1,69 from then till now all cars by law have head rests or high back seats.

[Charger-Bodie]

Hopefully a simple question: What's the deal with shoulder belts in 69's? My first one had them. The 500 project I recently picked up does not. Were they optional? If so, was this indicated on the fender tag or just the broadcast sheet?

Starting with the 68 model year the law required all cars to have front shoulder harnesses. Starting with the 69 model year head rests where and option until Jan 1,69 from then till now all cars by law have head rests or high back seats.

Nope. A very Large amount of 68 Chargers do not have Shoulder harnesses.

[charger490]

my 68 charger bought new had front and rear belts in it

[rob69]

Now I get it.
As Murphy's law would have it, my 69 didn't happen to have the sun visors (i assumed they were an option) so Ive spent the last year  holding them up with big paper clips and getting hit in the head on hard left turns.
I will be putting in visors I picked up from a junkyard asap.
My apologies to the dodge designers Ive been cursing out.
TT, do you have more photos of the arrangement up top, It would be a real help. I still think I'm missing something.
thanks
Rob 

[charger Downunder]

The best part about 3 point retracable with a drop link is no more seatbelt cutting your head off at the neck.
Here is a link to what i did front and back.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,68787.msg772056.html#msg772056

[Dans 68]

Hopefully a simple question: What's the deal with shoulder belts in 69's? My first one had them. The 500 project I recently picked up does not. Were they optional? If so, was this indicated on the fender tag or just the broadcast sheet?

Starting with the 68 model year the law required all cars to have front shoulder harnesses. Starting with the 69 model year head rests where and option until Jan 1,69 from then till now all cars by law have head rests or high back seats.

Nope. A very Large amount of 68 Chargers do not have Shoulder harnesses.

  Front and back shoulder belts were an option in the 1968 model year.

Dan

[doctor4766]

Now I get it.
As Murphy's law would have it, my 69 didn't happen to have the sun visors (i assumed they were an option) so Ive spent the last year  holding them up with big paper clips and getting hit in the head on hard left turns.
I will be putting in visors I picked up from a junkyard asap.
My apologies to the dodge designers Ive been cursing out.
TT, do you have more photos of the arrangement up top, It would be a real help. I still think I'm missing something.
thanks
Rob 

There are some steel clips that mount up with the visors and the top belt clips into that when not in use.

[rob69]

Thanks for info Doc,
Unfortunantly I dont seem to have those clips, back to square1,...

[440]

Neither do I.. Time to search for some 

[Charger-Bodie]

You can buy new ones on eBay.

[doctor4766]

Sold a set last year sorry





On the plus side, I got a decent dollar for them

[440]

Do you have OEM style belts Doc or something different? I assume OEM as you have the clips which would be useless with other belt set ups.

[doctor4766]

I fitted some new retractable shoulder belts RJ.
Wanted to be sure I was gonna be held in properly in the event of a wreck.

[440]

So you can't clip your belts to the visor ?

[doctor4766]

No, that's why I sold the clips.. I didn't need them any more.