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Is anyone on here a coin expert?

Started by BananaDan, April 06, 2011, 02:44:27 PM

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BananaDan

I came across a weird coin today and have no idea if it has any value, or what it is even.  It's a 1952 nickel and it appears that it was cut in half laterally and sandwiched back together with some sort of black material.  If you hold it flat you can see a gap between the two faces.  Its very weird.

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Drache

please post pictures

If I remember correctly in 1952 your nickels were actually made from 75% copper and only 25% nickel, so maybe that black you see is the copper core showing through the edge?
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BananaDan

I will when I get home, b/c this thing is crazy looking.  I suppose that's possible, but the material in the center looks black, like an adhesive or an epoxy.  It doesn't look metal.  Maybe a counterfeit?
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Drache

Quote from: RECHRGD on April 06, 2011, 05:36:12 PM
A counterfeit nickel? ::)

Well gas was what, 20 cents a gallon in '52? A soda was what, 10 cents? Maybe someone made a bunch of them for some free drinks  :nana:
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Quote from: BananaDan on April 06, 2011, 05:16:28 PM
I will when I get home, b/c this thing is crazy looking.  I suppose that's possible, but the material in the center looks black, like an adhesive or an epoxy.  It doesn't look metal.  Maybe a counterfeit?

Maybe, just maybe (I am stretching for this) it is a magic coin.  Two headed or tailed or even spring loaded cut through to fold in half and go into a soda bottle coins are available at magic shops.  Years and years ago I used to do tricks.  Kim

bobs66440

Maybe it's possible that the center alloy oxidized and deteriorated at a faster rate than the faces, therefore leaving a gap?  :shruggy:

BananaDan

Here are the pics.  Some are with flash and without.
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Drache

Yeah it looks like someone started cutting it in half for some reason. Maybe planning on making a double sided coin and just gave up or maybe it was being made into something for a magic trick....  :shruggy:
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bobs66440

Yep, I think Kim is right. That's how the magic coins are made (though it's usually done with a quarter). We used to make them in shop in junior high school. First you cut the groove in the edge, then cut along the front & back of the head (to make 3 pieces) then use a rubber band from a set of dental braces in the groove to hold the whole thing together. You can fold it and slip it into a bottle or whatever as mentioned, and when you let it go it springs back to normal.  :2thumbs:

Here, I found this

http://www.xploremagic.com/Coin-Money-Magic/how-to-make-folding-quarter-trick-tutorial.html

BananaDan

The odd thing is, this coin doesn't have a groove cut around it.  It looks like it was literally sliced in half and put back together.  Also, on that video you could see the copper inside, but with this I see black.
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bobs66440

Hmmm, that is odd. Maybe take it to a coin shop. They may have an answer.  :shruggy:

BananaDan

Yeah, that's what I was going to do, just thought I'd share it with y'all.  You never know who's out there that knows something.
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Chad L. Magee

I am a coin expert (especially pre civil war US) and can tell you what you have.  It is a trick nickel used to "outsmart" vending machines.  Back in the day, vending machines used nickels and dimes for a lot of things you got from them.  What someone has done is to take what probably was a magicians coin at one time and modify it so that a thin thread of string could be tied around the coin (with a long piece that you held onto).  When you put the coin into the machine, you would let it plink down to register it with the machine, but then pull it back up through the slot to recover the coin.  If you were skilled with this method, you could "steal" a coke/candy bar....
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bobs66440

Wow! Fascinating! I've heard of that before but didn't know if it was true.

stripedelete

Cool.  Bet you cold still use it today.  20 or 30 times might get you something.

BananaDan

Wow, thanks for the info!  So I don't have this?

http://www.auctionbytes.com/cab/abn/y03/m08/i01/s03

Damn, I guess I have to keep playing the lottery.   :-\

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Chad L. Magee

No, but you could easily rip off an older vending machine (that is if you can still find a working one with stuff in it for sale).  Newer ones don't always take nickels....
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