Two questions about this Charger website

[bull]

Question 1. Do you agree with this list of the top ten most commonly missed 2nd gen restoration details?
http://www.chargerpartsplus.com/Restoration-Tip-2-Ten-Commonly-Missed-Restoration-Details-on-1968-70-B-body-Models-W3.aspx

1.  Under-Hood Insulation Pads Mounted Incorrectly:
The fuzzy, loose fiber side should face downward toward the engine bay. The smooth finished side should mount against the hood. This pad should be mounted with steel hood pad clips. Plastic clips were not used on B-body models until 1972.

2.  Incorrect Rear-view Mirror Mounting Stem:
1968-69 B-body models inside rear-view mirror used a long rectangular mounting stem. 1970 B-body models used a shorter, round mounting stem. This difference can easily be seen when standing in front of the car and facing the windshield.

3.  Incorrect Chrome Door Handle Push-Buttons:
Early 1969 B-body models, with a build date before January 1, 1969, should have black plastic door handle push-buttons. Cars built after that date, should have chrome push-buttons. All other 1968 and 1970 B-body models should have chrome push-buttons regardless of their build date.

4.  Incorrect 1968-70 Charger Tail Light Lenses:
There are at least three different tail light lenses that were used on 1969-70 Dodge Chargers.  All lenses will bolt up to both years, but there are subtle differences in all three lenses.
1969 Chargers use only one style tail light lens. It is solid red with a silver-painted pin stripe along its lower, inside edge. This lens also has a bright chrome bezel surround.    
1970 Chargers used two different styles tail light lenses depending on their model designation. The first lens style was used on the base model (VIN beginning with the letters XH). It looks almost identical to the 1969 lens with the silver pinstripe with the exception of a rectangular shaped red reflector mounted horizontally in the center of the lens face. (New safety mandates for 1970 required that all 1970 models have rearward facing reflectors for better visibility at night) The second style 1970 tail light lens was used only on the 500 and R/T models. It looks like the first 1970 style but does not have the silver painted pin stripe. This lens is pin-stripe delete because 500 and R/T models used an aluminum bezel that ran the entire length of the tail light panel. The area of this bezel that fits around the tail light lens, is painted black, so silver accent pinstripes were not needed.

5.  Incorrect Upper Door Panel Pads:
1970 Charger's  with a beginning VIN of XH (Special Value Package), did not have padded upper front and rear door panel pads like other 68-70 Chargers. They had exposed metal upper door frame that were painted body color, like all other B-body models. The XH package also came with a standard front bench seat and a blank bulls-eye where a clock or tic-toc tachometer would normally be located in the instrument cluster.

6.  Backward-Facing Washer Jar Lid:
All 1968-70 B-body model washer bottle jars should have a black lid that opens with the lid falling towards the firewall. Some reproduction jars are made incorrectly, with the cap opening and falling toward the core support. Also the black plastic cap should be smooth with no words or lettering.

7.  Incorrect 1968 B-body Dashes:
1968 B-body dashes have some very unique features. The upper dash pad, itself, is pointed along its rearward facing edge just over the heater and A/C controls. 1969-70 dashes are straight from end to end.  1968 heater and A/C controls have black push-buttons without lettering. Their lettering is located on the chrome bezel above the buttons. 1969-70 B-body models have their lettering on the push-buttons themselves. The dash ashtray, on early 1968 B-body models, opened by sliding the door downward on 4 roller bearings.  This caused a problem because owners were used to pulling dashes open, not sliding them downward causing the soft vinyl door padding to be damaged. Later built 1968 and all 1969-70 B body models had ashtrays that pivoted outward, when pulled, and were hinged at the bottom.

8.  Incorrect Console and Shifter Combinations:
1968 consoles used all-chrome door and top bezels. 1969 and 1970 models used a combination of chrome and woodgrain top bezels. All 1968 and some early 1969 models with an automatic transmission and floor console used an all chrome shift knob. Later built 1969 and all 1970 models used a woodgrain knob.

9.  Incorrectly Mounted Ballast Resistors:
The ballast resistor mounts with a yellow Zinc plated bracket. There are two holes in this bracket. The first hole is where the silver zinc plated mounting bolt is located. The second hole in the bracket is there to fit the raised "bump" in the firewall. This "bump" keeps the ballast from moving side to side.

10.  Incorrect 1968-70 Trunk Lid Styles:
The 1968-70 Charger used three different style trunk lids. They all look the same on top but are different underneath. The early 1968 style has a separate skin and frame with openings around the frame ribs that show the exposed top panel. Later 1968 and 1969 models have a frame structure that is solid underneath. No top panel skin can be seen. Most 1970 trunk lids have cut-out openings for Go-Wing Spoiler mounting brackets. This '70 style trunk lid should never be seen on 1968-69 Chargers.

[bull]

Question 2. Have you ever purchased something from the site where the top ten list came from? Are they ok?

http://www.chargerpartsplus.com/Default.aspx

As far as the list above, at a glance I think I disagree with item #3 and #5. My early 68 Charger door handles have black buttoms and my XH VIN '70 Charger did not have body colored upper door paint.

[DC_1]

Question 2. Have you ever purchased something from the site where the top ten list came from? Are they ok?

http://www.chargerpartsplus.com/Default.aspx

As far as the list above, at a glance I think I disagree with item #3 and #5. My early 68 Charger door handles have black buttoms and my XH VIN '70 Charger did not have body colored upper door paint.

I agree with you. I always believed the black buttons where a 68 and early build 69 thing. Also, I was always under the impression the XH upper door exposed area was painted interior colour.

The rest in the list I agree with.

[DC_1]

Question 2. Have you ever purchased something from the site where the top ten list came from? Are they ok?

http://www.chargerpartsplus.com/Default.aspx

I think I have bought stuff from them at the Nationals in Columbus but never order anything or had parts shipped from them.

[resq302]

Question 2. Have you ever purchased something from the site where the top ten list came from? Are they ok?

http://www.chargerpartsplus.com/Default.aspx

As far as the list above, at a glance I think I disagree with item #3 and #5. My early 68 Charger door handles have black buttoms and my XH VIN '70 Charger did not have body colored upper door paint.

I agree with you. I always believed the black buttons where a 68 and early build 69 thing. Also, I was always under the impression the XH upper door exposed area was painted interior colour.

The rest in the list I agree with.

I agree that the black door handle button was black in 68 and early 69.  However,  I have to agree with them on the steel painted upper door area on the base model 70 charger.  I seem to remember reading that somewhere before too but not on that site.

Everything else that they had I have to agree with.

[Nacho-RT74]

he has been selling on ebay since long time ago

http://myworld.ebay.com/ebaymotors/chargerxx29/?_trksid=p4340.l2559

I got from him couple of stuff, no probs at all

[bull]

I agree that the black door handle button was black in 68 and early 69.  However,  I have to agree with them on the steel painted upper door area on the base model 70 charger.  I seem to remember reading that somewhere before too but not on that site.

Everything else that they had I have to agree with.

My XH '70 looked almost identical to your '69, red paint, white vinyl top and interior. The upper door paint matched the door panel color (white), not the red body.

[Troy]

The most glaring mistake to me is incorrectly painted lower interior door. Most of those other items are pretty nitpicky *and "normal" people (ie. not Mopar "experts") may not even notice*. Perhaps this is why they are commonly incorrect on "restorations". However, the door paint and black engine bays are the most noticeable "common" mistakes (and harder to fix than all that bolt-on stuff).

Troy

[bull]

The most glaring mistake to me is incorrectly painted lower interior door. Most of those other items are pretty nitpicky *and "normal" people (ie. not Mopar "experts") may not even notice*. Perhaps this is why they are commonly incorrect on "restorations". However, the door paint and black engine bays are the most noticeable "common" mistakes (and harder to fix than all that bolt-on stuff).

Troy

I agree with you on the black engine comps. It's a very distinct Mopar thing to have the body colored engine comps and it bugs me to see any of them getting the Ford/Chevy treatment.

What lower interior door mistake are you referring to?

[six-tee-nine]

This list proves I'm still a moron about Chargers.......
I knew very few things of that I knew about the door knobs and taillights but alot of other stuff were new to me.
However I will add this page to my favourites because I need to buy some parts that are on this list and hopefully that can guide me to buy the correct parts.

On the other side i was surprised that you did'nt mention the location of the door lock knobs....... I've seen 68 cars with 69 doors and vice versa or even worse with 2 different doors.......

[nvrbdn]

the metal upper door pads were painted interior color. and 68 door buttons were black. im in agreement with the masses. except im kinda in the thinking that the pair i have for the rear upper door area are from a 68 charger correct me if im wrong, i had 2 68's that i sold,but ended up having several pieces left over from and i thought these were part of that stuff.

[DC_1]

What lower interior door mistake are you referring to?

I'm going to take a guess he is referring to the inside bottom of the door, under the door panel,  being painted the incorrect colour.

Common mistake for non mopar resto shops is to paint it body colour not interior colour.

[Troy]

The most glaring mistake to me is incorrectly painted lower interior door. Most of those other items are pretty nitpicky *and "normal" people (ie. not Mopar "experts") may not even notice*. Perhaps this is why they are commonly incorrect on "restorations". However, the door paint and black engine bays are the most noticeable "common" mistakes (and harder to fix than all that bolt-on stuff).

Troy

I agree with you on the black engine comps. It's a very distinct Mopar thing to have the body colored engine comps and it bugs me to see any of them getting the Ford/Chevy treatment.

What lower interior door mistake are you referring to?

Leaving them painted the same as the exterior color instead of painting the inner door to match the color of the interior. It leaves a 3" body colored stripe along the lower edge of the door that looks incredibly out of place when the door is closed (since the kick panel, carpet, and door panels generally match the seat color). It's real obvious on GLs because the colors (orange and tan) contrast so much. Anything with a white interior also makes this one stick out like a sore thumb - unless your exterior is black which would make it match the carpet and kick panels.

A couple more along this same line is forgetting to black out the tail panel, rocker panel pinch welds, or radiator support.

On the other side i was surprised that you did'nt mention the location of the door lock knobs....... I've seen 68 cars with 69 doors and vice versa or even worse with 2 different doors.......

Well, if you've got the right doors it's very hard to put the lock knobs in the wrong location - and if you had one of each it should cause you to pause and ask questions.

Troy

[Chris G.]

'70 XH Charger interior.

Black carpet with K4...hmmm. 

[UFO]

'70 XH Charger interior.

Black carpet with K4...hmmm.  

Without looking thru the books but was a XH car even available with a 4 spd?
Weren't those models slant 6 or 318 only?
As for the black carpet,I'm thinking it's a 4spd thing.

[Cooter]

Back in the day, if you had the money, you could buy anything you wanted...

[Chris G.]

Without looking thru the books but was a XH car even available with a 4 spd?
Weren't those models slant 6 or 318 only?
As for the black carpet,I'm thinking it's a 4spd thing.

383's were plentiful with the XH cars. Getting a 4spd was also an option. Not many, but still available.

Books? www.1970chargerregistry.com 

[Charger-Bodie]

Does that 70 4 gear car have really faded black carpet or a rubber mat?

[440]

I like black engine bays personally even if it's not correct. It breaks up the color and ads a bit of contrast. Body colored engine bays don't look as tidy either in my opinion... A while back we looked at an orange super bee, orange engine bay, orange engine, too much orange....  

[bull]

Without looking thru the books but was a XH car even available with a 4 spd?
Weren't those models slant 6 or 318 only?
As for the black carpet,I'm thinking it's a 4spd thing.

I had an XH 383.

I have a question though about white interiors. That K4 '70 up there has the orange dash pads, steering wheel, etc., but my white interior XH had an all black dash with white seats, headliner and door panels. So if they were going to be consistant with the white, wouldn't thay have white dash pads, white kick panels, white steering wheel and column, etc.?

[jaak]

I'm glad you put down #1.... I put on my hood insulation tonight, thought that was the way it went! (Even though I used the incorrect plastic clips that came with it.)

Jason

[69CoronetRT]

As far as the list above, at a glance I think I disagree with item #3 and #5. My early 68 Charger door handles have black buttoms and my XH VIN '70 Charger did not have body colored upper door paint.

I agree with you. #3 is not a hard and fast rule. There is a transition period from black to chrome but it would depend on inventory and plant; not the calendar.

[A383Wing]

well, in 66, the lower inside door was painted outside body color...not sure about any years after that

[472 R/T SE]

'70 XH Charger interior.

Black carpet with K4...hmmm.  

Without looking thru the books but was a XH car even available with a 4 spd?
Weren't those models slant 6 or 318 only?
As for the black carpet,I'm thinking it's a 4spd thing.  Yes

[TX9H6E4CUDA]

I would like to add one to the list please..............cars with non blacked out core supports. Its not a personal preference, chrysler did it for a reason.

[hemigeno]

Not sure about a few items they mentioned, including:

4.  Incorrect 1968-70 Charger Tail Light Lenses:
It looks almost identical to the 1969 lens with the silver pinstripe with the exception of a rectangular shaped red reflector mounted horizontally in the center of the lens face. (New safety mandates for 1970 required that all 1970 models have rearward facing reflectors for better visibility at night) Weren't early 1970 model year cars (maybe just XH's) made without the rectangular reflector "insert"?

8.  Incorrect Console and Shifter Combinations:
All 1968 and some early 1969 models with an automatic transmission and floor console used an all chrome shift knob. Later built 1969 and all 1970 models used a woodgrain knob.  There are lots of late 1969 automatic cars that came with chrome knobs.  LOTS of them.

10.  Incorrect 1968-70 Trunk Lid Styles:
Later 1968 and 1969 models have a frame structure that is solid underneath. No top panel skin can be seen.  I have two '69s, a January and June car, and both have holes in them where you can see the top skin. 

[69CoronetRT]

Not sure about a few items they mentioned, including:

8.  Incorrect Console and Shifter Combinations:
All 1968 and some early 1969 models with an automatic transmission and floor console used an all chrome shift knob. Later built 1969 and all 1970 models used a woodgrain knob.  There are lots of late 1969 automatic cars that came with chrome knobs.  LOTS of them.

This is another one that is not a hard and fast rule. There is a change over time period and would have more to do with plant inventory and not a calendar. Most of the late built cars probably had wood knobs but if a plant still had chrome knobs in inventory late in the year, I'm sure they got used. "Early" and "Late" might be nice guidelines if you do not know for sure which knob originally came on your car.

[UFO]

10.  Incorrect 1968-70 Trunk Lid Styles:
Later 1968 and 1969 models have a frame structure that is solid underneath. No top panel skin can be seen.  I have two '69s, a January and June car, and both have holes in them where you can see the top skin. 

I think they have it listed backwards.
I had a '68 as a parts car.The deck lid was solid on the underside(was the same color with no indication of it being a replacement).
The '69's I have do have the holes.

[472 R/T SE]

Not sure about a few items they mentioned, including:

4.  Incorrect 1968-70 Charger Tail Light Lenses:
It looks almost identical to the 1969 lens with the silver pinstripe with the exception of a rectangular shaped red reflector mounted horizontally in the center of the lens face. (New safety mandates for 1970 required that all 1970 models have rearward facing reflectors for better visibility at night) Weren't early 1970 model year cars (maybe just XH's) made without the rectangular reflector "insert"?

My August 19th R/T SE doesn't have the reflectors, same with my Sept. 5th car below.

[Charger-Bodie]

Damb, That Charger is cool!! ALL BLUE!!

[bakerhillpins]

I had an XH 383.

I have a question though about white interiors. That K4 '70 up there has the orange dash pads, steering wheel, etc., but my white interior XH had an all black dash with white seats, headliner and door panels. So if they were going to be consistant with the white, wouldn't thay have white dash pads, white kick panels, white steering wheel and column, etc.?

They probably never had that combination because the glare of a white dash and other components would be way annoying when driving. Not to mention get seriously dingy in short order.

I personally love the blue and white 68 interiors! 

[hemigeno]

Not sure about a few items they mentioned, including:

8.  Incorrect Console and Shifter Combinations:
All 1968 and some early 1969 models with an automatic transmission and floor console used an all chrome shift knob. Later built 1969 and all 1970 models used a woodgrain knob.  There are lots of late 1969 automatic cars that came with chrome knobs.  LOTS of them.

This is another one that is not a hard and fast rule. There is a change over time period and would have more to do with plant inventory and not a calendar. Most of the late built cars probably had wood knobs but if a plant still had chrome knobs in inventory late in the year, I'm sure they got used. "Early" and "Late" might be nice guidelines if you do not know for sure which knob originally came on your car.

While I'll add the usual "I ain't seen them all" disclaimer, I can say that all of the original/unrestored Daytona's I've looked at - including more than a few June '69 SPD cars - have all had chrome knobs.  That's not to say none were made with woodgrain auto shift knobs.  There are admittedly some Daytonas that have woodgrain knobs now, but they are all restored cars for which I do not know the history.  In those instances it's probably better not to draw conclusions from them either way without more info.  Maybe they came that way originally, maybe they didn't.

I agree with you that it was probably a supply issue, but MaMopar's supply chain for these must have been pretty weak.  Which cars got them and which did not remains a mystery to me anyway.  There is no hard-and-fast rule AFAIK, but I would probably err towards using chrome on most any '69 car. 

[gtx6970]

same thin applies to the black door handle button thing.

supposedly, it was Dec 1968 and prior were black with Jan 1969 forward are chrome.

my old 1969 GTX convertible was a Jan 1969 Date and it still had it's original exterior black button handles on it

and my former Feb 1969 built car had chrome button handles

[UFO]

Isn't there some differences in regards to which assembly plant built the car?
Or would there have been one supplier shipping parts to all the plants?

[charge-it]

My engine bay is black and my new outside door handles have the oriiginal black knobs in them from my original handles.

[charge-it]

I also have a molded hood pad with the correct metal clips but haven't installed it because I like looking at the reflection of my engine in the hood when the hood is open.

[tan top]

My engine bay is black and my new outside door handles have the oriiginal black knobs in them from my original handles.

looks good    any more pictures

[69CoronetRT]

My engine bay is black and my new outside door handles have the oriiginal black knobs in them from my original handles.

Is the car a 68 or 69?

(Hate to be a jerk but are your heater hoses routed correctly?)

[charge-it]

My car is a 68 and yes the heater hoses are routed correctly. In 69 they were moved off the valve cover and into a bracket on the inner fender.

[69CoronetRT]

My car is a 68 and yes the heater hoses are routed correctly. In 69 they were moved off the valve cover and into a bracket on the inner fender.

Thanks. Good looking car.

[1969chargerrtse]

Guilty on having my hood insulation on backwards.   Redid it today. Glad I have the metal clips.

[bull]

This is why I posted the top ten list. You guys love this nit-picky detail stuff.

[Nacho-RT74]

[A383Wing]

Guilty on having my hood insulation on backwards.   Redid it today. Glad I have the metal clips.

yer air cleaner pie tin is turned the wrong way also....or do ya look at it from the drivers seat?? 

[1969chargerrtse]

Guilty on having my hood insulation on backwards.   Redid it today. Glad I have the metal clips.

yer air cleaner pie tin is turned the wrong way also....or do ya look at it from the drivers seat??  

Really?  I thought the larger word Magnum should be read from the front? That put 440 the other way. Someone answer this in detail please.
Also what about the debate about red or orange pie tin?

Turning my insulation around was like installing a brand new piece, nice and clean.    For now. 

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Guilty on having my hood insulation on backwards.   Redid it today. Glad I have the metal clips.

yer air cleaner pie tin is turned the wrong way also....or do ya look at it from the drivers seat??  

Really?  I thought the larger word Magnum should be read from the front? That put 440 the other way. Someone answer this in detail please.

Huhh?   So basically you are saying you read "MAGNUM" as "MUNGAM"?  Thats why you also must read "440" as "044"  

Makes perfect sense to me....Im gonna put mine upside down now as well.  Thanks for the insight!



PS---a few less trips to DD please or if you still must go get decaf or something....  

[ACUDANUT]

Picky, Picky, Picky....Don't you guys ever give up...WHO CARES....IMO...If it came from the Factory that way...It probably needs to be fixed.   

[69CoronetRT]

Really?  I thought the larger word Magnum should be read from the front? That put 440 the other way. Someone answer this in detail please.
Also what about the debate about red or orange pie tin?

Think it through. Was the pie designed to impress(intimidate) the driver or people standing in front of the car looking at the engine? I'm pretty sure the driver should know what engine is in the car.

The red to orange pie tin transition took place in '69. Red 'early' and orange 'late'. My Nov 68 STL built car had a red one.

[jb666]

Picky, Picky, Picky....Don't you guys ever give up...WHO CARES....IMO...If it came from the Factory that way...It probably needs to be fixed.   

That's exactly how I feel. It's funny, but this past weekend at the World Of Wheels I met a LOT of "Mopar Experts" (self proclaimed). They love to point things out like "your lower doors should be the color of your interior". WHO CARES?? When the guys were doing my car, they WANTED (almost insisted) on doing them Tan to match the interior. I told them I prefer the body color.  Other comments such as "your radiator support bracket shouldn't be that color" just make me laugh..I HATED the look of my car with the Black engine bay, so when the opportunity came up, it was changed to match the body color.  To the guy doing a 100% factory correct restoration and is being judged on accuracy, fine.. But most of us have our cars(key word OUR) done the way we want.  The purists, IMO, can go pound sand.

[1969chargerrtse]

Guilty on having my hood insulation on backwards.   Redid it today. Glad I have the metal clips.

yer air cleaner pie tin is turned the wrong way also....or do ya look at it from the drivers seat??  

Really?  I thought the larger word Magnum should be read from the front? That put 440 the other way. Someone answer this in detail please.

Huhh?   So basically you are saying you read "MAGNUM" as "MUNGAM"? That's why you also must read "440" as "044"  

Makes perfect sense to me....I'm gonna put mine upside down now as well. Thanks for the insight!



PS---a few less trips to DD please or if you still must go get decaf or something....  

To you I'd like to say, you are all New Yorker. You and another Chris I know have a way with words.  
You people will find this hard to believe but I really never looked close at the word direction. I'm 100% wrong, what Chris said was correct, and what I was saying made no sense.
I went outside to look at my car, because I actually drive mine unlike some people here with comments, and turned the tin around.  Ahhh ha ha  I can't believe it. What a toon.( me ) .
I do like some of the nit picking info. On this site I don't mind it, but if I'm showing someone the car, just say " wow great shape ".
Been backwards for 3 years and someone finally noticed it. Thanks.  

I've come a long way with this engine compartment.  Used to have a truck block, headers all mis matched this and that, and the engine was painted while in the car.  And of course the rear main poured oil.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Ahhh...much better!!! 

[A383Wing]

Been backwards for 3 years and someone finally noticed it. Thanks.  

that looks better 

[bull]

I like the nit-picking over details like this. I like knowing what was factory/what is correct so I can decide if I'm going to ignore it or not.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

I like the nit-picking over details like this. I like knowing what was factory/what is correct so I can decide if I'm going to ignore it or not.

True....much like the orange/red pie pan debate....  I chose orange, well, because I like orange!

[1969chargerrtse]

Ahhh...much better!!!  

Thanks, kinda embarrassed about the tin and insulation.  

[bull]

Ahhh...much better!!!  

Thanks, kinda embarrassed about the tin and insulation.  

That's some funny stuff. Now you know what it says.

[1969chargerrtse]

Ahhh...much better!!!  

Thanks, kinda embarrassed about the tin and insulation.  

That's some funny stuff. Know you know what it says.

Yeah although I'm a detail nut to a fault sometimes, the other times I must just be nuts.  I can understand the insulation a little bit, but what the heck was I thinking about the tin?  
And to think people like me are allowed to vote and drive? 

[resq302]

What is weird is when I got my 69 charger 10 years ago, the original pie tin that was on the engine was a red Magnum 383 and my cars SPO date is 5/9.  I always thought it was original till people said that it was a late 69 change to the orange tin.  I now own a NOS orange one that has flaws but I still think the red looks better.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

....and it matches your car!

[resq302]

True.  But thats not the reason why I kept it.   

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Thats the reason why I have an orange one...I'm not ashamed

[A383Wing]

Ahhh...much better!!!  

Thanks, kinda embarrassed about the tin and insulation.  

well, it woulda been "correct" is ya lived "down under" in Aussie land

[Chris G.]

To you I'd like to say, you are all New Yorker. You and another Chris I know have a way with words.

Whoa, what'd I say? 

I figured with a plate that reads SERT, I assumed the backwards pie tin was par for the course.

[doctor4766]

Ahhh...much better!!!  

Thanks, kinda embarrassed about the tin and insulation.  

well, it woulda been "correct" is ya lived "down under" in Aussie land

Hey.. them's fighting words lol

[doctor4766]

Ahhh...much better!!!  

Thanks, kinda embarrassed about the tin and insulation.  

That's some funny stuff. Know you know what it says.

Yeah although I'm a detail nut to a fault sometimes, the other times I must just be nuts.  I can understand the insulation a little bit, but what the heck was I thinking about the tin?  
And to think people like me are allowed to vote and drive?  

Yeah you orange Charger guys are a lil mixed up huh

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

To you I'd like to say, you are all New Yorker. You and another Chris I know have a way with words.

Whoa, what'd I say? 

I figured with a plate that reads SERT, I assumed the backwards pie tin was par for the course.

Yeah buddy!  on point as usual