so no reaction to the Pimperial fellas?..

[Orange_Crush]

Well, I'd say they're ALL creed's cronies since Trevor Creed is the head of the ENTIRE design department at the Chrysler group.   He is the boss of Ralph Gilles (designer of the 300, Magnum, and Charger) He is the boss of Mike Castiglione (who designed the Challenger), And he's the boss of the guy who designed THIS car (I forget his name).   Trevor Creed has the power of life for death for every design that comes out of Chrysler's studios.  

Somehow I think his TACTLESS COMMENTS AND LACKLUSTER CHARGER DESIGN didn't earn him any brownie points with corporate. Castiglione keeps saying over and over again,"This is what the market wants"...which is COMPLETELY contradictory to what Creed was saying when he was pimping his pig nosed Chargerstein creation on the public. I HONESTLY believe that Creed has been read the riot act and put in his place, and even if he DID have objections to "a 2 door retro styled coupe" (something we KNOW he is against) he wouldn't have ANY say in it what so ever. Based on his negative comments about retro styling, assinine comments directed toward us classic Charger owners, and firm belief that the market will not buy a 2 door coupe I DO NOT and WILL NOT believe that this Challenegr has his stamp of approval.

I guess I'll respond by paraphrasing something you said to Ghost the other day.

"I didn't realize you worked at the Chrysler Group and were privy to what goes on in board meetings, etc."

Creed read the riot act?  Sure.  For approving one of Chrysler's hottest vehicles EVER (300) and putting out a Charger that's selling better than projections (I know that just eats you up don't it).  They REALLY must've read him the riot act after Car and Driver named him one of the top 50 executives in the auto industry WORLDWIDE.  Sorry, head of design is head of design.  Tom Gale (Prowler, Viper, etc....Remember?) hand-picked him as his successor and, like it or not, he's done a good job.  Read the riot act for pissign off Charger owners? Yeah right...how many of you are there?  seriously...how many of you?  And how many of you can afford a 30,000 car?  and how many of you would actually consider a new car?  Don't you drive a Chevy Bill?  Get real.

So, unless you're running for some office in the Dodge ranks, up Creeds butt or working for DCX design team, I cannot honestly understand how ANYONE could believingly call this a Creed creation. It is IN FACT the ANTITHESIS of what Creed has stated in the past. So, IMO, you are COMPLETELY wrong here....just kissing up where no kissing is necessary or beneficial...

Ahhh yes...Classic bill.  In the absence of anything resembling a REAL argument containing any type of fact or valid point, he resorts to name calling or patently ridiculous accusations.  ...Very nice. 

Hey Bill, here are a couple of FACTS for ya.

Fact 1:  Chrysler Group is the only one of the big three that turned a profit last year and the only one of the big three that gained market share.  The main reason for this is that, combined, the three cars that trevor Creed approved sold a combined 219,000 copies in 11 months. 

Fact 2:  The design of this challenger was set in stone BEFORE you laid your peepers on the Charger, that means that it was impossible for you and the other legion of angry Charger owners to cause the Chastisement of Trevor Creed.

[BigBlackDodge]

I think OC is Trevor................................


Fact 1:  Chrysler Group is the only one of the big three that turned a profit last year and the only one of the big three that gained market share.  The main reason for this is that, combined, the three cars that trevor Creed approved sold a combined 219,000 copies in 11 months.

Not long ago DC was in the same boat as GM and FORD..........they trimmed down, closed plants, fired people..etc. This is why they are doing better than the others at this point.

BBD

[Ponch ®]

I think OC is Trevor................................


BBD

No. otherwise he would hook me up with one of them sweet SRT 8 06 Chargers.

Uh oh...I said something positive about the 06. Im gonna get flamed.

[Orange_Crush]

I think OC is Trevor................................


Fact 1:   Chrysler Group is the only one of the big three that turned a profit last year and the only one of the big three that gained market share.   The main reason for this is that, combined, the three cars that trevor Creed approved sold a combined 219,000 copies in 11 months.

Not long ago DC was in the same boat as GM and FORD..........they trimmed down, closed plants, fired people..etc. This is why they are doing better than the others at this point.

BBD

Certainly, and perhaps I'm jumping the gun saying its the MAIN reason, but they would still be in a BIG hole if people weren't buying the cars.   

[Orange_Crush]

I think OC is Trevor................................


BBD

No. otherwise he would hook me up with one of them sweet SRT 8 06 Chargers.

Uh oh...I said something positive about the 06. Im gonna get flamed.

Naw man...I can't be Trevor Creed.  It doesn't fit into my secular progressive agenda.

BTW, have you seen the commercial for the SRT-8 Grand Cherokee?

[ChargerBill]

"On February 1, 2005, after nearly a year's work on the Challenger's design, Castiglione found out the car would be built into a full-size running concept car for the 2006 Detroit Auto Show."

Also, he says he drew 1,000 iterations of the Challenger...doesn't sound like it was "set in stone" like you want everyone to believe. The project STARTED ALMOST a year prior to February 2005, so maybe march 2004? When did we see the FIRST sketches of the lame Charger design? June 2004?..or somewhere around there? Well, I can't imagine that the Challenger design only took 4 months to complete...are you serious on this? Making definitive statements like this calls into question the credibility of anything you say. In all my rantings about Creed I state that it's my opinion...you act like you actually have FACTS...but you don't. You are speculating just like anyone else.

As far as the LX platform being successful...it's NOT because of the Charger...it's because of the 300. I didn't say anything bad about the 300, it's a nice car...I insulted the pig nosed Creederstein mobile. Just like Mopar Muscle, Mopar Action, Mopar Collectors Guide, Hot Rod Magazine, Auto Weekly, Muscle Car Review, Muscle Car magazine, Hemmings Muscle, Collector car, etc...the list goes on and on. You are frankly quite obtuse if you think these are my opinions ONLY. Your emotional attachement to the Creeder is borderline obsessive and quite frankly a little weird. It's like you are on a personal mission to boost DCX and Creed PR. Have fun...but not too many here are buying the lame hype.

O.C. could stand for "Other Creed" or "Otis Creed" ..."Obtuse Creed" or maybe "Olivia Creed" (he's so progressive he could be cross gender) maybe he's his twin, or cousin or something....but definitely a reason for the DCX and Creed apologetics...just can't put my finger on it, but it WILL come out one of these days.

[Ponch ®]

I think OC is Trevor................................


BBD

No. otherwise he would hook me up with one of them sweet SRT 8 06 Chargers.

Uh oh...I said something positive about the 06. Im gonna get flamed.

Naw man...I can't be Trevor Creed.   It doesn't fit into my secular progressive agenda.

BTW, have you seen the commercial for the SRT-8 Grand Cherokee?

yep seen it. I kinda dont get the point of an SRT Cherokee. Other than getting to tell people "hey, its an SRT 8"

[Ponch ®]

speaking of Mopar's Collector's Guide. I bought a subscription at Fall Fling (mid october) and Ive only received one issue since (sometime in mid-late november). WTF?

[ChargerBill]

speaking of Mopar's Collector's Guide. I bought a subscription at Fall Fling (mid october) and Ive only received one issue since (sometime in mid-late november). WTF?

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing...where's my MCG??

[Orange_Crush]

"On February 1, 2005, after nearly a year's work on the Challenger's design, Castiglione found out the car would be built into a full-size running concept car for the 2006 Detroit Auto Show."

Also, he says he drew 1,000 iterations of the Challenger...doesn't sound like it was "set in stone" like you want everyone to believe. The project STARTED ALMOST a year prior to February 2005, so maybe march 2004? When did we see the FIRST sketches of the lame Charger design? June 2004?..or somewhere around there? Well, I can't imagine that the Challenger design only took 4 months to complete...are you serious on this? Making definitive statements like this calls into question the credibility of anything you say. In all my rantings about Creed I state that it's my opinion...you act like you actually have FACTS...but you don't. You are speculating just like anyone else.

As far as the LX platform being successful...it's NOT because of the Charger...it's because of the 300. I didn't say anything bad about the 300, it's a nice car...I insulted the pig nosed Creederstein mobile. Just like Mopar Muscle, Mopar Action, Mopar Collectors Guide, Hot Rod Magazine, Auto Weekly, Muscle Car Review, Muscle Car magazine, Hemmings Muscle, Collector car, etc...the list goes on and on. You are frankly quite obtuse if you think these are my opinions ONLY. Your emotional attachement to the Creeder is borderline obsessive and quite frankly a little weird. It's like you are on a personal mission to boost DCX and Creed PR. Have fun...but not too many here are buying the lame hype.

O.C. could stand for "Other Creed" or "Otis Creed" ..."Obtuse Creed" or maybe "Olivia Creed" (he's so progressive he could be cross gender) maybe he's his twin, or cousin or something....but definitely a reason for the DCX and Creed apologetics...just can't put my finger on it, but it WILL come out one of these days.

Or maybe it stands for Orange_Crush.  You know, you really seem to have some kind of homosexuality obsession...I've known a couple of guys like you.  They usually get caught by the cops in a bus station bathroom at the business end of someone's meat cannon. 

Notice EVERY one of the designs (you can see them all in the video if you take of your "anyone who doesn't think like me is a dumbass" blinders) is a retro 2-door design. That make too much sense for your world Bill?

[ChargerBill]

Or maybe it stands for Orange_Crush.   You know, you really seem to have some kind of homosexuality obsession...I've known a couple of guys like you.   They usually get caught by the cops in a bus station bathroom at the business end of someone's meat cannon.  

I'm not the self proclaimed resident Metro-sexual here...you are...remember? Should I go find the thread for everyone to reread? Who's more likely to be smoking a sausage cigar there little girl? Don't be draging me into our sick homo fantasies. As much as you might love to find a butt buddy here, I'm not it. Now go get your pedicure and read your copy of Mens Fitness while sipping tea...and don't forget to leave your pinky out...

Notice EVERY one of the designs (you can see them all in the video if you take of your "anyone who doesn't think like me is a dumbass" blinders) is a retro 2-door design. That make too much sense for your world Bill?

See, now you're just sounding like Silver...this sentence reads like a 4th grade english paper. What do you mean by "the designs"? The what? At least make sense when you're trying to insult me...K?

[Ponch ®]

See, now you're just sounding like Silver...

Damn Bill...I know he insulted you by implying that you secretly like to orally pleasure men, but that's just below the belt.

[Orange_Crush]

Or maybe it stands for Orange_Crush.   You know, you really seem to have some kind of homosexuality obsession...I've known a couple of guys like you.   They usually get caught by the cops in a bus station bathroom at the business end of someone's meat cannon.  

I'm not the self proclaimed resident Metro-sexual here...you are...remember? Should I go find the thread for everyone to reread? Who's more likely to be smoking a sausage cigar there little girl? Don't be draging me into our sick homo fantasies. As much as you might love to find a butt buddy here, I'm not it. Now go get your pedicure and read your copy of Mens Fitness while sipping tea...and don't forget to leave your pinky out...

WHHHHHOOOOOAAAA   Guess I hit a nerve there susie.   What really goes on in the locker room at your "Gym?"   Never mind...I don't think I want to know.

But hey, just for the sake of laughs...Go ahead and post any one of my posts again.   My back waxing one, my ball shaving one, the metrosexual one...go ahead...any one of them.   How about the one where I talk about my gay friends (yes, I have gay friends Bill)   You see, I have nothing to hide.   I am completely comfortable with who and/or what I am.   Apparently my wife is too.

Notice EVERY one of the designs (you can see them all in the video if you take of your "anyone who doesn't think like me is a dumbass" blinders) is a retro 2-door design. That make too much sense for your world Bill?

See, now you're just sounding like Silver...this sentence reads like a 4th grade english paper. What do you mean by "the designs"? The what? At least make sense when you're trying to insult me...K?

I'm not trying to insult you Billy, you do that just fine by yourself.   No need to make you look any dumber than you make yourself look.

[ChargerBill]

Or maybe it stands for Orange_Crush.   You know, you really seem to have some kind of homosexuality obsession...I've known a couple of guys like you.   They usually get caught by the cops in a bus station bathroom at the business end of someone's meat cannon.  

I'm not the self proclaimed resident Metro-sexual here...you are...remember? Should I go find the thread for everyone to reread? Who's more likely to be smoking a sausage cigar there little girl? Don't be draging me into our sick homo fantasies. As much as you might love to find a butt buddy here, I'm not it. Now go get your pedicure and read your copy of Mens Fitness while sipping tea...and don't forget to leave your pinky out...

WHHHHHOOOOOAAAA   Guess I hit a nerve there susie.   What really goes on in the locker room at your "Gym?"   Never mind...I don't think I want to know.

But hey, just for the sake of laughs...Go ahead and post any one of my posts again.   My back waxing one, my ball shaving one, the metrosexual one...go ahead...any one of them.   How about the one where I talk about my gay friends (yes, I have gay friends Bill)   You see, I have nothing to hide.   I am completely comfortable with who and/or what I am.   Apparently my wife is too.

Notice EVERY one of the designs (you can see them all in the video if you take of your "anyone who doesn't think like me is a dumbass" blinders) is a retro 2-door design. That make too much sense for your world Bill?

See, now you're just sounding like Silver...this sentence reads like a 4th grade english paper. What do you mean by "the designs"? The what? At least make sense when you're trying to insult me...K?

I'm not trying to insult you Billy, you do that just fine by yourself.   No need to make you look any dumber than you make yourself look.

A little bitchy huh? Is it that time of month? Sorry pansy, I didn't know...don't let your panties get all bunched up there. BTW: wax your gonads for all I care, we just don't need to hear about it. And as for your wife, well she must be real butch to be able to put up with you...studies have shown that femanine males usually end up with butch women. You deserve eachother..the universe is still in balance, and one less butch chick for me to have to manuever around.

[Orange_Crush]

Or maybe it stands for Orange_Crush.   You know, you really seem to have some kind of homosexuality obsession...I've known a couple of guys like you.   They usually get caught by the cops in a bus station bathroom at the business end of someone's meat cannon.  

I'm not the self proclaimed resident Metro-sexual here...you are...remember? Should I go find the thread for everyone to reread? Who's more likely to be smoking a sausage cigar there little girl? Don't be draging me into our sick homo fantasies. As much as you might love to find a butt buddy here, I'm not it. Now go get your pedicure and read your copy of Mens Fitness while sipping tea...and don't forget to leave your pinky out...

WHHHHHOOOOOAAAA   Guess I hit a nerve there susie.   What really goes on in the locker room at your "Gym?"   Never mind...I don't think I want to know.

But hey, just for the sake of laughs...Go ahead and post any one of my posts again.   My back waxing one, my ball shaving one, the metrosexual one...go ahead...any one of them.   How about the one where I talk about my gay friends (yes, I have gay friends Bill)   You see, I have nothing to hide.   I am completely comfortable with who and/or what I am.   Apparently my wife is too.

Notice EVERY one of the designs (you can see them all in the video if you take of your "anyone who doesn't think like me is a dumbass" blinders) is a retro 2-door design. That make too much sense for your world Bill?

See, now you're just sounding like Silver...this sentence reads like a 4th grade english paper. What do you mean by "the designs"? The what? At least make sense when you're trying to insult me...K?

I'm not trying to insult you Billy, you do that just fine by yourself.   No need to make you look any dumber than you make yourself look.

A little bitchy huh? Is it that time of month? Sorry pansy, I didn't know...don't let your panties get all bunched up there. BTW: wax your gonads for all I care, we just don't need to hear about it. And as for your wife, well she must be real butch to be able to put up with you...studies have shown that femanine males usually end up with butch women. You deserve eachother..the universe is still in balance, and one less butch chick for me to have to manuever around.

Whooo looky here...very nice...I'm wounded...you hurt my feelings.

Calling my wife butchy when I'm sure your wife is just gorgeous.

ooops

[ChargerBill]

Got a couple real cute girls I'm dating, but I'm sure the idea of cute women is lost on a guy of your persuasion...ooops

[Ponch ®]

oh snap!

[Chris G.]

i been waiting 24 hours for a reaction... what gives?...

Happy now Strat? It's alive and kicking...and it's only 6 days into the new year.

Yeah right...how many of you are there?   seriously...how many of you?   And how many of you can afford a 30,000 car?   and how many of you would actually consider a new car?  

Good question, but I doubt you will get many honest answers.

I also can't wait for the first guy to start a thread about all these new Challengers showing at car shows when they don't deserve to be there...bank on that happening.

ps- Bill, talking about someone's wife is uncalled for, but on the same token, you were compared to Silver...damn that's cold.

[Ponch ®]

Happy now Strat? It's alive and kicking...

[Chris G.]

I always can count on my old buddy to make me forget about all the bickering here at dc.com.

Serenity Now... "I got a friend who is going out with a girl thats in 8th grade and he's in 10th. A few people think that its wrong that he's doing that. But it got me thinking How wrong is it. I've talked to a few girls in other grades and they are easier to talk to then girls in my grade and most of the girls in my grade are taken or think they are better then everyone. Has anyone here dated different grades in high then yours?"  

[Orange_Crush]

I always can count on my old buddy to make me forget about all the bickering here at dc.com.

Serenity Now... "I got a friend who is going out with a girl thats in 8th grade and he's in 10th. A few people think that its wrong that he's doing that. But it got me thinking How wrong is it. I've talked to a few girls in other grades and they are easier to talk to then girls in my grade and most of the girls in my grade are taken or think they are better then everyone. Has anyone here dated different grades in high then yours?"  

I was just getting ready to post a link to the thread.

I wonder how long its gonna be before hey drive ol' Mustanghater out of Moparts.

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=2281730&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD

[ChargerBill]

I didn't bring the wiff into the topic...

And who is Serenity Now?

EDIT: That's Mustangahter? Now way...priceless

[Chris G.]

I wonder how long its gonna be before hey drive ol' Mustanghater out of Moparts.

Shouldn't be long, but where do you think he's gonna end up?   

[Orange_Crush]

I wonder how long its gonna be before hey drive ol' Mustanghater out of Moparts.

Shouldn't be long, but where do you think he's gonna end up?   

Supposedly, he was going on Myspace (how in the hell do I know this shit!?!?!) that seems to be more his speed anyways.

8th grade and 10th grade

[Ponch ®]

I wonder how long its gonna be before hey drive ol' Mustanghater out of Moparts.

Shouldn't be long, but where do you think he's gonna end up?