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What is the difference between the 727 and the 904 transmission?

Started by Grizzly, January 04, 2006, 09:13:43 PM

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Grizzly

Good points and bad points would be nice information. I get the impression from different topics on this board and others, that the 727  is the preferred one, why is that? Thank you.

Khyron

from my understanding, the 727 can take a hell of a lot more punishment. I think it's also a longevity issue....

but for the technical aspects of it, i'm sure someone will give you a better responce, and your talking about me aren't ya? ;)

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Grizzly

Quote from: Khyron on January 04, 2006, 09:40:45 PM
, and your talking about me aren't ya? ;)

  :) No, actually our topics happen to be coincidental.   ;D I read down through yours before posting mine to make sure mine wasn't a duplicate. Your thread gave me some information but didn't quite answer what I needed. It sounds like that most big blocks were mated to 727 transmissions, whereas the 904 was primarily for small blocks. That way they could handle the torque/horspower output of the larger engines. Does that sounds about right?

golden73

The 727 was the only available automatic transmission for big block cars. You could get a 727 for a small block, which where mostly for 340's and 360's or you could get a 904 which was primarily for the 318.

727 is a much heavier duty transmission and can really take a beating. I had a 904 behind a mild 360 and needless to say that didn't last long.
One good thing about the 904 is that it weighs less than the 727.... helpful if you are a racer

Chryco Psycho

the 904 weighs less but hat is not the whole story , the internal parts are lighter allowing less drag from inertia so the 904 will spin up faster with less mass which can b e an advatage in a race car but you will be rebuilding it more often

Grizzly

Quote from: Chryco Psycho on January 05, 2006, 01:37:30 AM
the 904 weighs less but hat is not the whole story , the internal parts are lighter allowing less drag from inertia so the 904 will spin up faster with less mass which can b e an advatage in a race car but you will be rebuilding it more often

Would it still be reliable for a mildly built up 318? I am not going to be racing, but would like a little giddy-up when I needed it, ya know?

Plumcrazy

Quote from: Grizzly on January 05, 2006, 09:17:47 PM

Would it still be reliable for a mildly built up 318? I am not going to be racing, but would like a little giddy-up when I needed it, ya know?

For that purpose a properly rebuilt 904 should be fine.   If it's a heavier B or E body car you might also consider a low gear set for better acceleration from a stop

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ck1

Quote from: Chryco Psycho on January 05, 2006, 01:37:30 AM
the 904 weighs less but hat is not the whole story , the internal parts are lighter allowing less drag from inertia so the 904 will spin up faster with less mass which can b e an advatage in a race car but you will be rebuilding it more often
WOW this is rare, i never thought you would stoop so low to talk about automatic transmissions LOL mister 4 speed man :icon_smile_big:
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Ghoste

He was only relenting to do it in a racing context so he's still safe.  ;)

Chryco Psycho


Rolling_Thunder

the reduced weigh of the internals of the 904 also make it more efficient than the heavier 727...  when built correctly a 904 can handle alot of abuse
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Grizzly

Well this would be for a 73 CHarger SE Brougham with a 318/904 combo, so I was curious to know how good the combo was? The last Charger I had, had a 318/727 combo and I didn't know if that was normal or not. Thanks folks!  :icon_smile:

Rocky

The 727 could be had with the 318 if it were a towor heavy duty combination, but it was pretty rare.  If you plan on sticking with your 318 the 904 can handle most of the upgrades that your motor can.