If they can sink the Titanic...

[Ghoste]

why can't they destroy cgi Chargers instead of real ones in Hollywood?

Just askin'.

[Drache]

doesn't look as cool? 

[Steve P.]

Cheaper to beat the crap out of some old cars.....

[bull]

Cheaper to beat the crap out of some old cars.....

Maybe there's a good business opportunity here. Find some run of the mill Chevy with a wheelbase similar to that of a classic Charger and buy enough AMD sheet metal to cover it.

[Ghoste]

You're a genius Bull.

[Drache]

You guys are crazy! 

The more Chargers they destroy making movies the more your chargers will be worth more, DUH! 

[Ghoste]

I don't need them worth more because it isn't an investment, it's a lifestyle choice. 

[Drache]

Well Im out of trolling ideas then 

[Ghoste]

That's ok, Charlie Sheen is on Charlie Sheen and I'm on Chargers.  It's all good.

[Drache]

Cheaper to beat the crap out of some old cars.....

Maybe there's a good business opportunity here. Find some run of the mill Chevy with a wheelbase similar to that of a classic Charger and buy enough AMD sheet metal to cover it.

OR just do what they did in the original Vanishing Point, do a split second cut into a white Camaro crashing into the bulldozers instead of the Challenger

[Ghoste]

Yeah.  I think I've reached the point though where I hate to see any classic car wrecked for nothing.

[Drache]

Well then I say it will come down to price and whether or not you can make it look so realistic that a person can't tell the difference.

I'm not sure about anyone else but when I know it's computer animation Im not "excited" by it. "Stunts" done in CGI really annoy me for some reason. I guess because I know it's completely faked and thus not as exciting to watch.

Now I hate watch old cars get smash no matter what company made them, don't get me wrong about that. I'm just looking at it as your average movie go'er fan.

[Ghoste]

And I have to add that realistically, I knew all of those things when I asked question.  I think cgi effects are improving at a fantastic rate all the time but at some level (even if it's just in our heads) a cartoon explosion is never as good as a real one.
Still, if they sink the Titanic...

[bull]

If there were still a couple hundred thousand Titanics around they'd probably sink one for real.

[daveco]

CGI aint cheap, it probably still costs less to smash a real one. 

[doctor4766]

That's ok, Charlie Sheen is on Charlie Sheen and I'm on Chargers.  It's all good.

Speaking of whom..
I heard he was recently tested and he had enough nastys in his system to kill two and a half men.

[Magnumcharger]

I think a Grand National - style cage with AMD metal attached to it would be the best solution for a movie Charger.
Rugged, good looking, relatively inexpensive, and easily repaired.

Jump that you fucking Duke bastards!

[69bronzeT5]

When they murdered the Charger in the Fast & Furious, it definitley looked like CGI to me...

[Mike DC]

I think a Grand National - style cage with AMD metal attached to it would be the best solution for a movie Charger.
Rugged, good looking, relatively inexpensive, and easily repaired.

Jump that you fucking Duke bastards!

The DOH crew actually tried that in the first season of the old TV series.  They built a stunt car with a big rollcage that tied in with the suspension mountings points and they added extra shocks per wheel.    

The "Knight Rider" crew tried a rollcaged dune buggy chassis with a fiberglass Trans Am shell on it.  

Both shows quickly deemed these ideas impractical.  They ended up with something that was hardly any stronger, was expensive to build, and not any easier to deal with than wrecking real cars.  And real cars were still much safer when a stunt went bad.  




Nowadays I think something could be done to survive small or moderate jumping.  Suspension tech has gone a long way since the early 1980s.  But the really BIG jumps are never gonna be very easy to control.  All the beefy shocks in the world aren't going to save the car if it barrel-rolls during the landing.  

[mikesbbody]

When they murdered the Charger in the Fast & Furious, it definitley looked like CGI to me...

I wish that were the case  if you see any Classic America Car's in the Movies there's a prett good chance it will get Destroyed, beat up, blown up etc etc.

[A383Wing]

You're a genius Bull.

not the exact word I would have used

[MoparManJim]

Yeah.  I think I've reached the point though where I hate to see any classic car wrecked for nothing.

It's not wrecked for nothing... it's wrecked for entertanment, no if there was no cameras around and they wrecked it... yea then it would be wrecked for nothing. 

[bull]

You're a genius Bull.

not the exact word I would have used

Probably because your vocabulary is limited to grunts, chirps and whistles.

[Vainglory, Esq.]

One thing I think you're overlooking here, guys.  The ship that sank in "Titanic" was a scale replica, not a CGI rendering.  They literally built a recreation of the ship, albeit with many interior parts removed, then they filmed it in northwestern Mexico, then they sank it in a 17,000,000 gallon tank built for that purpose. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic_(1997_film)#Scale_modeling


I'd say the "Titanic" sinking has a lot more in common with the roll-cage-plus-body-panels concept that miked referenced above.

[Sabre]

Problem is CGI cars still looks fake.  Just look at the recent Knight Rider remake from 2008.  The CGI K.I.T.T. looked fake when they jumped it.