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First gen rear spoiler

Started by bull, March 17, 2011, 10:55:20 PM

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bull

I was just doing a little reading on why the first gen Charger didn't do as well as the C500 (I figured since it was a fast back with a flush grill it would do well) and found this out:

"The lift was because the air actually traveled faster over the top of the car than under it, causing the car to act like a giant airplane wing. Drivers would later claim that "it was like driving on ice." In order to solve this problem Dodge installed a small lip spoiler on the trunk lid which improved traction at speeds above 150 mph (240 km/h). They also had to make it a dealer-installed option in late 1966 and 1967 because of NASCAR rules (with small quarter panel extensions in 1967). The 1966 Charger was the first U.S. production vehicle to offer a spoiler."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Charger_(B-body)

I was surprised to learn that there was a rear spolier option on the first gen because I don't recall seeing one. Who here has one?

A383Wing

I have them on both our cars...plus we took my original one and had copies made




ChgrSteve67

I have one too though its hard to see in the picture.



Not origional but one of Bryan's reproductions.

Definatly helps when I'm doing 150+   :smilielol:

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bull


ITSA426

I've got a couple from Bryan.  You don't want to attach them with sheet metal screws or anything else that can be removed in a parking lot without opening the trunk.

bull

So apparently there weren't too many originals?

Ghoste

Attached with screws.  There have been pics on the site before of them being installed on the line Bull.

ChgrSteve67

I attached mine with tapered head screws and nylon lock nuts.

Might get it loose but your not going to take it off with the trunk lid closed.

bobs66440

Y'know, that's a good point. I never thought that someone can just take mine off by removing the screws.  :o Well, I guess I know what I'm doin' now.  ::)

FastbackJon

Quote from: bull on March 17, 2011, 10:55:20 PM
I was just doing a little reading on why the first gen Charger didn't do as well as the C500 (I figured since it was a fast back with a flush grill it would do well) and found this out:

"The lift was because the air actually traveled faster over the top of the car than under it, causing the car to act like a giant airplane wing. Drivers would later claim that "it was like driving on ice." In order to solve this problem Dodge installed a small lip spoiler on the trunk lid which improved traction at speeds above 150 mph (240 km/h). They also had to make it a dealer-installed option in late 1966 and 1967 because of NASCAR rules (with small quarter panel extensions in 1967). The 1966 Charger was the first U.S. production vehicle to offer a spoiler."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Charger_(B-body)

I was surprised to learn that there was a rear spolier option on the first gen because I don't recall seeing one. Who here has one?

That first picture was taken at coordinates 47.769409,-117.226565 facing south.

How do I know that??

Hmm.....

:popcrn:
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bull

Quote from: FastbackJon on March 18, 2011, 05:30:39 PM
Quote from: bull on March 17, 2011, 10:55:20 PM
I was just doing a little reading on why the first gen Charger didn't do as well as the C500 (I figured since it was a fast back with a flush grill it would do well) and found this out:

"The lift was because the air actually traveled faster over the top of the car than under it, causing the car to act like a giant airplane wing. Drivers would later claim that "it was like driving on ice." In order to solve this problem Dodge installed a small lip spoiler on the trunk lid which improved traction at speeds above 150 mph (240 km/h). They also had to make it a dealer-installed option in late 1966 and 1967 because of NASCAR rules (with small quarter panel extensions in 1967). The 1966 Charger was the first U.S. production vehicle to offer a spoiler."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Charger_(B-body)

I was surprised to learn that there was a rear spolier option on the first gen because I don't recall seeing one. Who here has one?

That first picture was taken at coordinates 47.769409,-117.226565 facing south.

How do I know that??

Hmm.....

:popcrn:

Because some jackwagon in Spokane owns it? :nana:

FastbackJon

Quote from: bull on March 18, 2011, 05:51:40 PM
Quote from: FastbackJon on March 18, 2011, 05:30:39 PM
Quote from: bull on March 17, 2011, 10:55:20 PM
I was just doing a little reading on why the first gen Charger didn't do as well as the C500 (I figured since it was a fast back with a flush grill it would do well) and found this out:

"The lift was because the air actually traveled faster over the top of the car than under it, causing the car to act like a giant airplane wing. Drivers would later claim that "it was like driving on ice." In order to solve this problem Dodge installed a small lip spoiler on the trunk lid which improved traction at speeds above 150 mph (240 km/h). They also had to make it a dealer-installed option in late 1966 and 1967 because of NASCAR rules (with small quarter panel extensions in 1967). The 1966 Charger was the first U.S. production vehicle to offer a spoiler."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Charger_(B-body)

I was surprised to learn that there was a rear spolier option on the first gen because I don't recall seeing one. Who here has one?

That first picture was taken at coordinates 47.769409,-117.226565 facing south.

How do I know that??

Hmm.....

:popcrn:

Because some jackwagon in Spokane owns it? :nana:

Yep!

http://www.1966-67chargerregistry.com/list/indv.php?year=66&pic=9467236

:icon_smile_big:

Attach it with countersuck phillips head stainless machine screws and stainless nylock nuts. Make sure all divots in screw heads are facing the same direction, preferable to the front/back and side/side of car.
"This was the dedication of the altar, in the day when it was anointed, by the princes of Israel: twelve chargers of silver, twelve silver bowls, twelve spoons of gold..." -- Numbers 7:84 KJV




ITSA426

I attached it about the same way but also used neoprene washers, as gaskets, to help slow down the water because it occasionally rains on my parade.

The car has much the same profile as an airfoil/wing.  Why wouldn't at least one engineer suspect it might create lift?

bull

Quote from: FastbackJon on March 18, 2011, 06:23:44 PM
That first picture was taken at coordinates 47.769409,-117.226565 facing south.

How do I know that??

Hmm.....

:popcrn:

Because some jackwagon in Spokane owns it? :nana:
[/quote]

Yep!

:icon_smile_big:
[/quote]

You made Wikipedia! Did they just flat out steal that pic?

FastbackJon

Quote from: bull on March 18, 2011, 07:18:26 PM
Quote from: FastbackJon on March 18, 2011, 06:23:44 PM
That first picture was taken at coordinates 47.769409,-117.226565 facing south.

How do I know that??

Hmm.....

:popcrn:

Because some jackwagon in Spokane owns it? :nana:

Yep!

:icon_smile_big:
[/quote]

You made Wikipedia! Did they just flat out steal that pic?
[/quote]

Nope! I put it up a while back, along with a pic of my car's dash gauges. That was my younger brother's bright green dodge neon in front of my Charger in the dash gauge pic. Also have edited quite a bit of the wording for the '66/'67 Charger section (along with many others).

Enough on me... here's a good read:

http://www.nascar.com/2010/news/opinion/01/26/retro.racing.maumann.spoiler.smcquagg/index.html
"This was the dedication of the altar, in the day when it was anointed, by the princes of Israel: twelve chargers of silver, twelve silver bowls, twelve spoons of gold..." -- Numbers 7:84 KJV




Highbanked Hauler

Weren't the race car ones put on with 3/16 rivets?
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Ghoste

I've never seen one of the actual race ones, that's a very good question.