HLPAG - Truemusclecars.com -- '69 Charger sure LOOKS nice

[tpetty]

I thought I had found my dream car -- a '69 black RT, no vinyl, and with a MANUAL.    Ran across truemusclecar.com website, got excited, but then found a reference that it is the revamped HLPAG.  I found plenty of references to HLPAG here on this site.  Dreams -- for now -- dashed.  

http://truemusclecars.com/Mr%20Norms/1969_mr_norms_doge_charger_rt_4.html

[terrible one]

$50k and they can't even put the right upper radiator hose on there! It's kinked and everything  

Seriously though, it could be a nice, solid car. It seems like they have some that they just flip. The ones that they "restore" are the real trouble  

[bull]

Looks pretty nice, actually. Which leads me to believe they had nothing to do with the restoration (except the radiator hose ). They probably bought it as-is for $30k.

[69bronzeT5]

Looks pretty nice, actually. Which leads me to believe they had nothing to do with the restoration (except the radiator hose ). They probably bought it as-is for $30k.

[vancamp]

wrong color per the fender tag, pistol grip in a 69, auto zone steering wheel etc.

[troutstreamnm]

Fender tag not on the car???, pistol grip? Smells fishy....what a surprise.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Heres what that car looked like back on 4/18/07 on ebay.....looked the same way on 2/23/10 when it was relisted again & probably sold to "True Muscle Cars" to work their magic...

[oldgold69]

so what makes it a mr norms the stickers   i hope mr norm sues him for copyright infringement  or fraud  or does mr norm sell the stickers and signature or what ever is on the dash  for bucks  maybe this could finally get him

[mikesbbody]

Fender tag not on the car???, pistol grip? Smells fishy....what a surprise.

No Surprise! its a Halpag Car! that explains everything including the missing Fender Tag

[tpetty]

Yeah,
I didn't get the Mr Norms association either, and there aren't many details listed.

[472 R/T SE]

Rebody.  


The car Chris lists is correct.

The black one has A/C interior & A/C firewall.

[472 R/T SE]

The 4 speed bracket on the firewall looks to have been added on as well.

Chris' original shots show what it should look like from the factory.  The black car has what looks like fresh bolts.

[daveco]

Wow, looks like someone may end up with a real shiny bag of trouble

Looks like the guy taking the pictures was either going to do that or burn it (reflection in the rear glass)

[G-man]

that radiator hose looks funny

[Richard Cranium]

Rebody.  


The car Chris lists is correct.

The black one has A/C interior & A/C firewall.

Also, power brakes versus manual brakes.

[tan top]

Rebody.  


The car Chris lists is correct.

The black one has A/C interior & A/C firewall.

good spot  


hlpag handy work !!   looks like they have destroyed that XS charger &  what ever that A/C body is from     wonder how many more  

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Dash VIN

[troutstreamnm]

Incorrect radiator?  Shouldn't the upper inlet be on the other side of the radiator?

[bordin34]

So if its a rebody then they broke some federal law right?

[ChargerSG]

Funny to see if they gets way with it, sadley i think so since its to many with allot of money who just buy it and then discover what

[fc7_plumcrazy]

seems to be a rebody.
radiator is from a c-body. Probably just quickly rushed together from the parts they had easily access to. Mastercylinder etc is also a cheap autozone part.

It is a shame, the original RT doesn't look to bad

Carsten

[bull]

How is it the fenders are so much rustier than the rest of the car in the before pics? It's almost as if someone stripped them and then gave up on it.

[Drache]

How is it the fenders are so much rustier than the rest of the car in the before pics? It's almost as if someone stripped them and then gave up on it.

Slight accident or such so they were replaced/fixed and were still in Primer?

[Troy]

Just FYI - I see Patrick is placing ads referencing www.daves-classic-cars.com now.

Also, some ads reference "Steve's Customs" for paint and body work.

Troy

[Ryan]

Just FYI - I see Patrick is placing ads referencing www.daves-classic-cars.com now.

Also, some ads reference "Steve's Customs" for paint and body work.

Troy

Did you see the pos cars this guy is trying to sell and how much $$ he's asking?  I feel sorry for the ones who buy them.

[terrible one]

Just FYI - I see Patrick is placing ads referencing www.daves-classic-cars.com now.

Also, some ads reference "Steve's Customs" for paint and body work.

Troy

Did you see the pos cars this guy is trying to sell and how much $$ he's asking?  I feel sorry for the ones who buy them.

Isn't that the truth! Look at the '69 one car from the bottom of this page: http://www.daves-classic-cars.com/1960s.htm I can't believe he got 19k for that!!

[472 R/T SE]

Try as I might, I can't get them to send me a pic of the dash VIN of the mentioned black car by the OP.   

I guess I'll keep lookin'. 

[crusty440]

Sorry for being the dummy, but what is HLPAG?

[Beep Beep Dave]

Did you guys read the disclaimer on their site

Disclaimer

We do not and cannot represent 100% authenticity unless it is available. We are happy to show our customers the engine casting number, VIN numbers, tags, engine stamping numbers, body stampings numbers , Frame stamping numbers and transmission numbers codes, we DO NOT GUARANTEE that the motor or any other part or component is in fact the original or that it is correct for this car. There is ALWAYS the possibility of re-stamped motors numbers, re-stamped transmissions numbers, re-stamped Body stampings, re-stampings Frames and as technology improves there will be even more. We cannot guarantee the originality of this vehicle or any part on this vehicle, including but not limited to the Engine, the Transmission, "matching numbers", color changes, data tag, the frame or any documentation. The entire risk as to the originality and the inspection of this vehicle before purchase is up to the Buyer. American Classic Muscle Cars Inc. and TrueMuscleCars.com assume no responsibility or liability for any typographical written error or verbal description and opinion given on the phone about the Vehicle, Verbal description in a video that might be found in any of our advertising including the Internet .  This will include any errors made in the description, color, price, or equipment listed for all being advertised for sale by American Classic Muscle Cars Inc. and TrueMuscleCars.com

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[hemigeno]

Just FYI - I see Patrick is placing ads referencing www.daves-classic-cars.com now.

Also, some ads reference "Steve's Customs" for paint and body work.

Troy

Did you see the pos cars this guy is trying to sell and how much $$ he's asking?  I feel sorry for the ones who buy them.

Isn't that the truth! Look at the '69 one car from the bottom of this page: http://www.daves-classic-cars.com/1960s.htm I can't believe he got 19k for that!!

Same car discussed 2 years ago in this thread:

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,54411.0/all.html