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strange car buying experence

Started by NGC414, March 10, 2011, 02:01:47 PM

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NGC414

This is a first for me. I recently looked at a 10 year old LS1 car and made a offer. It was a couple hour drive so I had cash to buy on the spot. I thought it was a little odd that the car had 9k more miles than advertised and a year older than advertised, but it was clean and still worth the money.

The guy tells me he needs to check on the car he is buying before accepting the sale. At this point I am a little taken back (my offer was only 200 under his asking price) but tell him to call me when he finds out.
I get about 1 hour down the road and he calls accepting the offer. I tell him I will head back up to do the deal. He stammers a little and says he cant do anything until 2 days later since the title was in a parents name who was out of town.

I waite 2 days and call, no answer. I hate to text, but decide to anyway. I get a message back a few hours later that he needs 200 more for the car. since someone else wants it.
Im a little annoyed, but its the exact car I want and decide to just agree to the extra 200. Then ask if every thing is set to pick it up today. I get a message back that he has to work today until late and tomorrow will possibly work. This struck me as odd since he told me he was laid off.

I finally just tell him I understand if he does not want to sell the car, but let me know either way. I get a message back that he wants to sell and has title ready to be notorized, but just got busy and I can pick it up today maybe. He will let me know by 2pm.
Well its 2pm and Im sitting here thinking how strange this is.

PocketThunder

sounds like he has other offers in the waiting and he's trying to get the most money that he can.  If he's a couple hours away go back and show up and talk to him face to face again and bring a friend and if he doesnt sell it then walk away for good. 

Paul
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NGC414

Quote from: PocketThunder on March 10, 2011, 02:10:38 PM
sounds like he has other offers in the waiting and he's trying to get the most money that he can.  If he's a couple hours away go back and show up and talk to him face to face again and bring a friend and if he doesnt sell it then walk away for good. 

Paul

I was thinking that or he just dont want to sell the car. he pulled the ad the day I looked at it so I assumed everything was good.
I just got a message that he is still working and cant meet up today. I suggested having the parent that has the title in their name meet me if he cant. After a few minutes He replied that the title is in his wallet.
I am 100% sure he is stalling, but not sure why. Why not just tell me if you dont want to sell?

NGC414

I got a message around 3pm to go ahead and come get the car and he was on his way home to meet me. I reply that I just need to stop at the bank and will be on the way.

About 30 min later I get a message to hold off because he thinks one of his parents cars is parked in front of the garage and they wont be back until late to move it. (the car is stored at his parents house)

I told him again that I understand if he is having second thoughts about selling, but he assures me he wants to sell me the car.

So I said lets not worry about today and shoot for tomorrow morning. I get a reply that he is not working tomorrow and that works better. I told him I will just plan on being there in the AM. The I get a message to call first incase something comes up  :brickwall:.

aussiemuscle

sounds like he doesn't want his parents to know he's selling the car.

FlatbackFanatic

I would just walk away, too much crap to be worth it. It just seems that there is something up. Just my :Twocents:
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68X426

Drugs have a way of messing up what little mental ability some people have. He can't even complete a sale to get the dough in order to get stoned. :Twocents:

Walk away. :yesnod:



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Quote from: FlatbackFanatic on March 10, 2011, 06:33:32 PM
I would just walk away, too much crap to be worth it. It just seems that there is something up. Just my :Twocents:
I agree. I had a similar situation with a nut case that was selling a '33 Plymouth coupe hot rod. I wanted that car BAD but he just kept on jerking me around until I finally gave up. I don't know what's wrong with these people... :brickwall:

tan top

Quote from: FlatbackFanatic on March 10, 2011, 06:33:32 PM
I would just walk away, too much crap to be worth it. It just seems that there is something up. Just my :Twocents:

yep walk away  :yesnod:    with that type of dude could arange to meet & with cash  !! turn up at his door & he might not even be in  :brickwall:  had one like that years ago ,  never again  not worth the agro , not as it it was a mile away but a two hour drive  :brickwall:
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ChgrSteve67

If you finally get the car it will make one hell of a story.

jaak

I agree with most here, I have bought several cars over the years and some crazy things happen. I'm more cautious now, and If I were in your shoes....I'd walk away and start looking for another car. My  :Twocents:

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NGC414

I have to agree, my instinct is telling me to walk away. But I want the thing bad and my impulse is telling me to give it one more chance. Like a bad ex girlfriend. I might need therapy after this.

greenpigs

Just how rare is this car?

I doubt it is a low production car & I would keep on looking as it sounds like he either is a crack head or trying to fix something that is broke before you pick it up.
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Quote from: FlatbackFanatic on March 10, 2011, 06:33:32 PM
I would just walk away, too much crap to be worth it. It just seems that there is something up. Just my :Twocents:
:iagree:

TK73

Walk...

If somebody is gonna sell a car they need to sell the car.  F- the BS
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vancamp

walk away the guy is definetly a flake, wrong year and mileage than what was in ad, parents have title,then there not home etc he s either a crackhead or trying to do something his parents dont agree with or illegal.

Chargerrtforme

I understand how you can love a car. I would do the morning thing also but if that fails he would have to drive it to me next time.

PocketThunder

Quote from: greenpigs on March 10, 2011, 08:19:44 PM
Just how rare is this car?

I doubt it is a low production car & I would keep on looking as it sounds like he either is a crack head or trying to fix something that is broke before you pick it up.


Ya, what is an LS1 anyways?  Corvette?  Camaro?  Impala?
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I would have told him to shove the car long ago. You have more tolerance then I do.


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Quote from: NGC414 on March 10, 2011, 02:01:47 PM
This is a first for me. I recently looked at a 10 year old LS1 car and made a offer. It was a couple hour drive so I had cash to buy on the spot. I thought it was a little odd that the car had 9k more miles than advertised and a year older than advertised, but it was clean and still worth the money.

The guy tells me he needs to check on the car he is buying before accepting the sale. At this point I am a little taken back (my offer was only 200 under his asking price) but tell him to call me when he finds out.
I get about 1 hour down the road and he calls accepting the offer. I tell him I will head back up to do the deal. He stammers a little and says he cant do anything until 2 days later since the title was in a parents name who was out of town.

I waite 2 days and call, no answer. I hate to text, but decide to anyway. I get a message back a few hours later that he needs 200 more for the car. since someone else wants it.
Im a little annoyed, but its the exact car I want and decide to just agree to the extra 200. Then ask if every thing is set to pick it up today. I get a message back that he has to work today until late and tomorrow will possibly work. This struck me as odd since he told me he was laid off.

I finally just tell him I understand if he does not want to sell the car, but let me know either way. I get a message back that he wants to sell and has title ready to be notorized, but just got busy and I can pick it up today maybe. He will let me know by 2pm.
Well its 2pm and Im sitting here thinking how strange this is.



Do you need any more red flags to tell you something is wrong, or are you waiting to get kicked in the groin with a red boot? :shruggy:

Red Flag List:
1)  A misprint or a typo is always possible, but both the miles & the year are wrong.
2)  Title is in someone elses name.
3)  Change the price after accepting an offer.
4)  Reasons for not being available keep changing.
5)  You're letting the emotion of "having to have the car at all costs" cloud your judgment.

I'm a very patient person & always give someone the benefit of the doubt, but if things change for the worse during a deal I drop it & save myself the aggravation & loss of money by moving on & looking for another deal.
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chargd72

What everyone else is saying!!!  This guy is trying to sell you a car and isn't even the title holder.  Find a differnet car, man.  You should never have to work this hard to give someone your money.  

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440

The only thing I would do if I really wanted the car is talk to his parents... If he's working turn up and knock on the door and tell them the situation. If he happens to answer the door and he told you he was working you just caught him out... If those fail then I would walk away.

NGC414

The car is nothing special, it just hapens to have everything I was looking for and somewhat local. Plus a fair price and extremely clean bone stock car. It is a 99 black on black Camaro SS 6 speed car.

I really wasnt that attached until I went to see it. It was spotless and reminded me of my z28 from highschool. Once I sat in it and started it I had to have it. I did get the vibe while talking to him that he was really second guessing selling the car. He kept saying thins like he really hated to sell it and how much he loved the car, but was buying a friends truck for a good deal.

I did tell him I would need to meet and speak with the parent that the car is titled to as well (ohio requires sellers on a title to have their name notorized).
We had planned to meet this moring, but cannot now because we are getting a bad snow storm :flame:. It is supposed to snow all day today and into tomorrow. I dont want to try to drive it home in bad weather.

At this point the "I really want this car" is turning into "I can take it or leave it". I think I am going to tell him when the weather clears, if he can drop the car off at my house I will have cash waiting from him and throw in an extra 100 for delivering it.

440

I'd tell him he took too long and you have your eyes on another car, say if he really wants to sell it he can drop it off at your house and you'll have the cash ready for him. I wouldn't give him anything for delivering the car since he's wasted a lot of your time so it's fair. Turn the tables so the ball is in your court, he can take the deal or leave it.

My  :Twocents: 

NGC414

Quote from: 440 on March 11, 2011, 10:38:45 AM
I'd tell him he took too long and you have your eyes on another car, say if he really wants to sell it he can drop it off at your house and you'll have the cash ready for him. I wouldn't give him anything for delivering the car since he's wasted a lot of your time so it's fair. Turn the tables so the ball is in your court, he can take the deal or leave it.

My  :Twocents: 
There is actually a 93 SVT cobra I was interested in. Its not local though. He sent me a message yesterday at one point that he could not meet due to working late.
I replied that I was going to check out anther car, If he is having second thoughts on selling I didnt want to miss out on both.
About 30 seconds later is when I got the message to go ahead and come get the car. By the time I got there he would be back from work.
maybe 40 min later is when I got the message that someones car was in front of the garage. The BS was almost comical.

NGC414

At this point I think it is a case of a very dishonest person that is torn between selling his car or keeping it.
If he can deliver the car and bring the title holder with him I will give him cash, but I dont think I will persure picking it up anymore.

Old Moparz

Quote from: NGC414 on March 11, 2011, 10:56:55 AM
At this point I think it is a case of a very dishonest person that is torn between selling his car or keeping it.
If he can deliver the car and bring the title holder with him I will give him cash, but I dont think I will persure picking it up anymore.


Having said that, he could have easily sensed how much you wanted the car & decided to hold out to see how badly you wanted it. Look at all the dealerships that get thousands over the sticker price because people are willing to part with their money so easily when emotions are involved. I would be completely done with the deal at this point & say no thanks, I'm not interested. There will be many other cars out there, lots without headaches, & probably one that you will like even more.
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NGC414

Quote from: Old Moparz on March 11, 2011, 11:03:39 AM
Having said that, he could have easily sensed how much you wanted the car & decided to hold out to see how badly you wanted it. Look at all the dealerships that get thousands over the sticker price because people are willing to part with their money so easily when emotions are involved. I would be completely done with the deal at this point & say no thanks, I'm not interested. There will be many other cars out there, lots without headaches, & probably one that you will like even more.

Im sure he did sence that I wanted it. I tried to play it cool which is why I made the intial offer of 200 bucks less than asking. That being said I have owned some nice cars over the years, but nothing gets the juices flowing like sitting in a car that takes you back to highschool (even though mine was a 93 z28). I think thats why I got so damn attached and put up with the the drama so long. This thread has been a nice therapy session for me LOL  :icon_smile_big:.

bull

Quote from: aussiemuscle on March 10, 2011, 06:16:44 PM
sounds like he doesn't want his parents to know he's selling the car.

Quote from: 440 on March 11, 2011, 10:24:47 AM
The only thing I would do if I really wanted the car is talk to his parents... If he's working turn up and knock on the door and tell them the situation. If he happens to answer the door and he told you he was working you just caught him out... If those fail then I would walk away.

I agree. Seems to me he's trying to pull one over on his folks to me. I wouldn't doubt that the car is in their name and he's trying to sell it out from under them. If so that would put you right in the middle of a major cluster f*%$ that you want no part of.

69bronzeT5

People will do strange stuff when selling a car just to get more money. When I bought my Mustang, I knew it was exactly what I wanted but I wasn't set on buying it. I saw it on Craigslist on a Sunday and I emailed the owner (a kid not much older than me) asking some questions about it. We chatted for a few days and he answered all my questions. I called him on Tuesday and asked when I could go look at it. He said he was busy the next day (Wednesday) but was free Thursday night. I set up a time and told him I was very interested. On Wednesday during the day I called him and wanted to confirm Thursday night. He all of a sudden told me some guy came out to look at it (on Wednesday- when he told me he 'wasnt free') and verbally told him he would buy it. He told him he had wrecked his Mustang and was getting his money from the insurance company Thursday morning and would be out right away and he said he would pay the asking price of $2,500. I told him that was bullshit as I had set up a time for Thursday and said if he was free for the night I would be out right away to look at it and give a $100 deposit. He said he was so I went out, test drove it and since everything checked out, I gave him the deposit and we agreed on a final price of $2,300. He said he was not looking forward to telling the other guy it was sold. The next night I came back and gave him the rest of the money. To this day I still think the whole story about the other guy was BS since he took $200 less for the car from me than the other guy was going to pay for it....
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bull

Similar thing on a 69 Charger happened to me. I heard about this car through the grapevine that had sat there for a year or more but wasn't being advertised for sale. When I went to see it and asked him to take a deposit and give me until the next day to get the money he said "don't worry about it. The car's not going anywhere." Yet somehow "a guy just showed up out of the blue" and bought it before I could return.

Paul G

I think you have put up with enough BS from this guy. There are other cars out there. Let this flake keep his. If he gets back to you tell him to meet you half way and see what he says. If you do go back for it double check the vin tag against the title and look very closely at the notary stamp and the sigs. Sounds way fishy to me.
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NGC414

Well we had bad snow yesterday, so last night I said I would give it one more try today since the snow was supposed to be done.
I told him I would call before I came around 9:30am. Go figure no answer again.
I sent a message that I was on my way and would be there at such n such time just to mess with him. At this point I had no intention of wasting my time to drive up there.
I got a reply about 20min later that he would need an additonal 500 bucks to part with the car today. Im not going to bother even replying.

Brock Samson

 Damn!  :lol: I hate that... some people....  :shruggy:  :RantExplode: you should find a way to F&%K with him, just for spite...  :yesnod:

Old Moparz

Quote from: NGC414 on March 12, 2011, 11:38:58 AM

I got a reply about 20min later that he would need an additonal 500 bucks to part with the car today. Im not going to bother even replying.



There's a big surprise.   ::)

Don't even waste your time with this jackass. If he does get in touch with you again, tell him you'll give him $2000 less than the original asking price, he has to deliver it to you at your convenience, his parents not only have to tag along to sign & notarize it in front of you, but they have to do all the spring lawn maintenance in the yard & cook you a nice hot meal.   :lol:
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TK73

Quote from: Old Moparz on March 12, 2011, 11:49:47 AM
Quote from: NGC414 on March 12, 2011, 11:38:58 AM

I got a reply about 20min later that he would need an additonal 500 bucks to part with the car today. Im not going to bother even replying.



There's a big surprise.   ::)

Don't even waste your time with this jackass. If he does get in touch with you again, tell him you'll give him $2000 less than the original asking price, he has to deliver it to you at your convenience, his parents not only have to tag along to sign & notarize it in front of you, but they have to do all the spring lawn maintenance in the yard & cook you a nice hot meal.   :lol:

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NGC414

This is crazy. In the last hour I got three messages that he will now take the original amount. I finally replied saying that if he brings car to my house Monday I will take it. I think if he shows up I should offer 1k less.

ChgrSteve67

Sorry to hear the guy decided to jerk you around.
I don't think I would mess with him anymore either.

If he changes his mind tell him to knock off $500 and deliver the car.

bobs66440

This definitely sounds like a shady, screwed up deal. I think you're headed for a world of aggravation with this guy.

dkn1997

Quote from: NGC414 on March 12, 2011, 04:41:23 PM
This is crazy. In the last hour I got three messages that he will now take the original amount. I finally replied saying that if he brings car to my house Monday I will take it. I think if he shows up I should offer 1k less.

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69bronzeT5

Quote from: NGC414 on March 12, 2011, 04:41:23 PM
This is crazy. In the last hour I got three messages that he will now take the original amount. I finally replied saying that if he brings car to my house Monday I will take it. I think if he shows up I should offer 1k less.

PERFECT!!! :lol: Let us know the outcome :cheers:
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Bob T

Quote from: Old Moparz on March 12, 2011, 11:49:47 AM
Quote from: NGC414 on March 12, 2011, 11:38:58 AM

I got a reply about 20min later that he would need an additonal 500 bucks to part with the car today. Im not going to bother even replying.



There's a big surprise.   ::)

Don't even waste your time with this jackass. If he does get in touch with you again, tell him you'll give him $2000 less than the original asking price, he has to deliver it to you at your convenience, his parents not only have to tag along to sign & notarize it in front of you, but they have to do all the spring lawn maintenance in the yard & cook you a nice hot meal.   :lol:

Nice  :icon_smile_big: and that they should bring enough cold beer for the friends you have invited along to watch them cook as as well. and not some rubbish 2% brand
Seriously though, - pretty flaky sort of seller eh? Steer clear, just my humble 2c
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bobs66440

Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on March 13, 2011, 12:09:00 AM
If it were me, this guy would already have a pissed off 'possum shoved ass first into his mailbox. :flame:
:o Now THAT'S a vision!

Daytona R/T SE

Quote from: bobs66440 on March 13, 2011, 08:10:10 AM
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on March 13, 2011, 12:09:00 AM
If it were me, this guy would already have a pissed off 'possum shoved ass first into his mailbox. :flame:
:o Now THAT'S a vision!

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six-tee-nine

Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on March 13, 2011, 12:09:00 AM
If it were me, this guy would already have a pissed off 'possum shoved ass first into his mailbox. :flame:

Ouch.......... if this pisses you off that much then you probably did some jailtime in the past for some people that really got you mad     :smilielol:
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maybe the guy has no friends and enjoys the phone calls
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NGC414

This is so strange. I think there is maybe a mental disorder with this guy. Not bashing disabled people either Im very serious. Nothing else makes sence.

So Saturday he says no problem he will drive the car to me on monday to make up for everything.
Sunday I send a message checking to see if title is nortorized and everything is ready. He assures me it good to go.

An hour later he sends a message that plates are expired on car and he dont want to drive it. After 20 minutes I give several ways to get the car here including a simple 30 day tag.

Then he remembers he needs to pick up a transmission for a friend at 10am and cant drive it, I say fine just meet me early in the am like 8am. Still no good he has to help pull the transmission they are replacing early in the am.

Im thinking to myself if your going to lie get a story line established. Dont spring the trans story 10minutes after the expired plates story.
He said if I can come pick it up its mine and title is ready to go he will make sure someone is there. At this point im just courious how far this can go.
So i just say if he wants to sell it i will be here with cash. just come after the transmission deal and I will be here.
Then another message that he just has to run to many errands today and might have to do some work later on. But if i can drive back up the car is mine.
I told him I am considering a few cars and just let me know asap if he can bring it out.
I think he has tried to call 3 times since I sent that message 5min ago.

I have no intention of driving back up, but still have that glimmer of hope that I can baite him into driving it to my house where I plan to look the car over and point out a few things I must have missed and offer him $500 less.

Old Moparz

I would NOT want this guy showing up at my house.  ::)

Can you give him directions to another house on the other side of town? Like maybe someone you don't like?  :lol:

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rt green

there has to be another car around thats the same as this one. this is to much even for a charger.i feel sorry for you having to put up with a guy like this. tell him to drop the car off at your house, sign and leave the papers in the glove box, and when you take care of all the stuff you have to do for the next two weeks, you'll pay him if you find the time. oh, wait, you have to pull that tranny, remember?
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TK73

Why are you still f-in with this D-bag?

Give your $ to somebody who is willing to take it. 
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chargergirl

Quote from: NGC414 on March 10, 2011, 08:05:47 PM
I have to agree, my instinct is telling me to walk away. But I want the thing bad and my impulse is telling me to give it one more chance. Like a bad ex girlfriend. I might need therapy after this.
As with this deal it is essential to remember that they are an EX for a reason. This guy doesn't own the car he is trying to sell you. He is trying to find someone that can find a way around the legal signing of the title. Especially since the car is already there. The owner of the car probably parked behind it cause they know he's up to something. At some point he may even have you come back and with cash in hand...especially if he confirms this you must meet him at a public place do not let him get you to the house. Or bring a ton of friends and a few vehicles. Take your dog out of this fight.
Trust your Woobie!

TK73

Quote from: chargergirl on March 15, 2011, 08:45:04 PM
Quote from: NGC414 on March 10, 2011, 08:05:47 PM
I have to agree, my instinct is telling me to walk away. But I want the thing bad and my impulse is telling me to give it one more chance. Like a bad ex girlfriend. I might need therapy after this.
As with this deal it is essential to remember that they are an EX for a reason. This guy doesn't own the car he is trying to sell you. He is trying to find someone that can find a way around the legal signing of the title. Especially since the car is already there. The owner of the car probably parked behind it cause they know he's up to something. At some point he may even have you come back and with cash in hand...especially if he confirms this you must meet him at a public place do not let him get you to the house. Or bring a ton of friends and a few vehicles. Take your dog out of this fight.

I said that in less words...
1973 Charger : 440cid - 727 - 8.75/3.55


Now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical,
      a liberal, oh fanatical, criminal.
Won't you sign up your name, we'd like to feel you're
      acceptable, respectable, oh presentable, a vegetable!

66FBCharger

'69 Charger R/T 440 4 speed T5, '70 Road Runner 440+6 4 speed, '73 'Cuda 340 4 speed, '66 Charger 383 Auto
SOLD!:'69 Charger R/T S.E. 440 4 speed 3.54 Dana rolling body

440

He still probably doesn't have the paperwork in order... I wouldn't bother anymore... Even if you do get the car the possibility of headaches with this guy down the track would be likely.

NGC414

Thanks for the solid advise. My freinds were saying the same thing " are you crazy, why are you still considering the car".
The problem I had was once he accepted my offer, it was a done deal in my mind. I never second guess once I make an offer. So I had a hard time letting it go.

Monday when he was supposed to bring the car to me, he continued to make excuses and try to get me to pick it up. I finally said I cant buy the car.

That night I seen it was relisted on craigs list for the same price. It drove me nuts and the little crackhead voice in the back of my mind said just give it one more try, grab the trailer and trailer the damn thing back.

So against everyones advice I called and said I will pick it up on this thursday and he agrees.

That night I started going over things again and knew it was stupid something was certainly wrong with this deal.
So I had both his and his parents address, I decided to look up their full names on the county auditor. Then look up any offences on the municipal courts public web site.

What I found made me feel good about walking away from the car.

This kid was only 26 and had over 30 offences against him since 2004.
Some of the ones that stood out were: Theft, recieving stolen property, Menacing, forgery and othe civil cases which did not give detailed info. Due to several traffic offences his licence also came up suspended. The parents also had several cases and some that were still open.

I can only imagine what the true status of that title is and whats going on behind the sale. The vin on the car comes up a 99 but he has it listed as a 2000. I wouldnt be surprised if the title he has is for another car.

I feel bad for anyone else that tries to buy this car. I guess when shopping on craigslist Buyer Beware.

chargergirl

Quote from: TK73 on March 15, 2011, 09:13:34 PM
Quote from: chargergirl on March 15, 2011, 08:45:04 PM
Quote from: NGC414 on March 10, 2011, 08:05:47 PM
I have to agree, my instinct is telling me to walk away. But I want the thing bad and my impulse is telling me to give it one more chance. Like a bad ex girlfriend. I might need therapy after this.
As with this deal it is essential to remember that they are an EX for a reason. This guy doesn't own the car he is trying to sell you. He is trying to find someone that can find a way around the legal signing of the title. Especially since the car is already there. The owner of the car probably parked behind it cause they know he's up to something. At some point he may even have you come back and with cash in hand...especially if he confirms this you must meet him at a public place do not let him get you to the house. Or bring a ton of friends and a few vehicles. Take your dog out of this fight.

I said that in less words...
Yes you did.
Trust your Woobie!

bobs66440

Quote from: NGC414 on March 16, 2011, 04:24:30 PM
Thanks for the solid advise. My freinds were saying the same thing " are you crazy, why are you still considering the car".
The problem I had was once he accepted my offer, it was a done deal in my mind. I never second guess once I make an offer. So I had a hard time letting it go.

Monday when he was supposed to bring the car to me, he continued to make excuses and try to get me to pick it up. I finally said I cant buy the car.

That night I seen it was relisted on craigs list for the same price. It drove me nuts and the little crackhead voice in the back of my mind said just give it one more try, grab the trailer and trailer the damn thing back.

So against everyones advice I called and said I will pick it up on this thursday and he agrees.

That night I started going over things again and knew it was stupid something was certainly wrong with this deal.
So I had both his and his parents address, I decided to look up their full names on the county auditor. Then look up any offences on the municipal courts public web site.

What I found made me feel good about walking away from the car.

This kid was only 26 and had over 30 offences against him since 2004.
Some of the ones that stood out were: Theft, recieving stolen property, Menacing, forgery and othe civil cases which did not give detailed info. Due to several traffic offences his licence also came up suspended. The parents also had several cases and some that were still open.

I can only imagine what the true status of that title is and whats going on behind the sale. The vin on the car comes up a 99 but he has it listed as a 2000. I wouldnt be surprised if the title he has is for another car.

I feel bad for anyone else that tries to buy this car. I guess when shopping on craigslist Buyer Beware.

The amazing thing is that he's free! That's the problem with our justice system. They let people like that out over and over again so they can just screw innocent people over and over. Sad. Thankfully he didn't get you. I guess the lesson is, heed the warning signs when they come. You are very lucky.

Paul G

I think he was just fishing for a deposit from from some poor fool who will never see him or the deposit again.
1972 Charger Topper Special, 360ci, 46RH OD trans, 8 3/4 sure grip with 3.91 gear, 14.93@92 mph.
1973 Charger Rallye, 4 speed, muscle rat. Whatever engine right now?

Mopars Unlimited of Arizona

http://www.moparsaz.com/#

TK73

Did you happen to get the VIN?

If so, a call to the cops might be in order...
1973 Charger : 440cid - 727 - 8.75/3.55


Now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical,
      a liberal, oh fanatical, criminal.
Won't you sign up your name, we'd like to feel you're
      acceptable, respectable, oh presentable, a vegetable!

440

Looks like the apple doesn't fall far from the tree as his parents don't sound much better.  :coocoo:

In some ways be thankful he kept stalling you for so long or you could have ended up with a bogus vehicle, even worse if the car was stolen or tampered with you could have suffered in the end.

If he has your address I'd make sure you keep everything locked up tight and I'd advise the neighbors to keep an eye out as you wouldn't want this guy coming to your house and helping himself to your stuff.

Keep looking, you'll probably find a better car for less money without the headaches

NGC414

I did get the vin, I wrote it down off the car when I looked at it. When I checked it out it showed up on the DMV as registered with no problems. But the DMV website only gives the status of the title, no owner info.

I never did give him my address. When I met the kid I knew he seemed a little "off", But he never struck me as a punk or anything like that.

I got lucky for sure, its a blessing he stalled me. I think as said before he is probably fishing for a deposit from someone or selling it without his mothers consent.

RECHRGD

People like that are the reason I don't advertise the mopar stuff I've got hanging around that I no longer need.  I guess I'm paranoid, but I don't want low lifes coming out to my house and viewing the car and other stuff that I have.  Bob
13.53 @ 105.32

41husk

Post them on here Bob.  Maybe some of us low lifes can use it :nana:
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

RECHRGD

Quote from: 41husk on March 17, 2011, 11:23:51 AM
Post them on here Bob.  Maybe some of us low lifes can use it :nana:

LOL...Your probably right.  Maybe I'll get around to that some day before I die.
13.53 @ 105.32

Old Moparz

Quote from: NGC414 on March 16, 2011, 04:24:30 PM
Thanks for the solid advise. My freinds were saying the same thing " are you crazy, why are you still considering the car".
The problem I had was once he accepted my offer, it was a done deal in my mind. I never second guess once I make an offer. So I had a hard time letting it go.

Monday when he was supposed to bring the car to me, he continued to make excuses and try to get me to pick it up. I finally said I cant buy the car.

That night I seen it was relisted on craigs list for the same price. It drove me nuts and the little crackhead voice in the back of my mind said just give it one more try, grab the trailer and trailer the damn thing back.

So against everyones advice I called and said I will pick it up on this thursday and he agrees.

That night I started going over things again and knew it was stupid something was certainly wrong with this deal.
So I had both his and his parents address, I decided to look up their full names on the county auditor. Then look up any offences on the municipal courts public web site.

What I found made me feel good about walking away from the car.

This kid was only 26 and had over 30 offences against him since 2004.
Some of the ones that stood out were: Theft, recieving stolen property, Menacing, forgery and othe civil cases which did not give detailed info. Due to several traffic offences his licence also came up suspended. The parents also had several cases and some that were still open.

I can only imagine what the true status of that title is and whats going on behind the sale. The vin on the car comes up a 99 but he has it listed as a 2000. I wouldnt be surprised if the title he has is for another car.

I feel bad for anyone else that tries to buy this car. I guess when shopping on craigslist Buyer Beware.




After reading all that, I'd give the guy another chance before jumping to conclusions.  :Twocents:













:smilielol: Yeah, right. Guy's a real dirtbag. :smilielol:
               Bob               



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bull

Quote from: TK73 on March 16, 2011, 09:58:31 PM
Did you happen to get the VIN?

If so, a call to the cops might be in order...

:yesnod: Exactly. They could set up a sting buy and put an end to his BS, at least temporarily.