yearone 11" rotor and hub for 1966-69 B-body models with 4-piston calipers.

[MORFF]

Ok I just want to make sure these 11" rotor and hub for 1966-69 B-body models with 4-piston calipers. part number BN144. Will Work with my calipers I have Bendix 2937722 calipers both are the same number. Not sure if these where what came with my car but its what was giving to me when I bought car. My car was a 383 big block se 1969 charger. I also need to find dust sheilds and pads tks guys

found this for dust shields from yearone will this work for me. Correct type and gauge steel. Also has original part number stamping of 2823227. part number DBS69 Disc brake dust shield pair for 1966-69 B-body models.

[pipeliner]

I think thats right but if u want to save a bunch of money with the same or probably better quality you can use these.It says 70 for the rotors but should be the same and they are also a 1 piece rotor which is better.Just according what you want.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CENTRIC-PARTS-121-63022-Front-Brake-Rotor-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQfitsZYearQ3a1970Q7cModelQ3aChargerQQhashZitem3cb5897155QQitemZ260743721301QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=mopar+brake+dust+shields&_sacat=0&_odkw=mopar+dust+shields&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313

[MORFF]

TKS hell ya save alot but do these rotors come with wheel studs like year one. now have to find a place to restore my calipers. and find pads tks again for info

[MORFF]

Ok pipeliner gave me a link and saw this on the brake dust sheild store PETE'S MUSCLE CARS Item number: 320240140447  
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/62-74-Mopar-Complete-Disc-Brake-kit-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4a8fccc09fQQitemZ320240140447QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
for 670.00 can you tell me if this set up is better or the same as my bendix 4 piston set up. Because i am going to spend more to rebuild calipers and brake booster assembly. Looks like a good deal just want to make sure brake power is same as the stock bendix  set up tks.

[pipeliner]

I would say any kind of upgrade is better than factory.I didnt realize those 4 piston calipers for the 69,s were so expensive to do.I bought 2 reman. A1 cardone with lifetime warranty for my 70 for $40 at Advanced lol.The only thing I personally dont like about that kit is the way the brake booster is made,other than that I wouldnt be afraid at all to go with that kit.Just make sure those are good rotors with the vents.

[MORFF]

Tks again pipeliner it proubly wold not be that much if i did not have to change all seals and replace all pieces to my whole brake system that why mine is so expensive.

[dustininwy]

Ok I just want to make sure these 11" rotor and hub for 1966-69 B-body models with 4-piston calipers. part number BN144. Will Work with my calipers I have Bendix 2937722 calipers both are the same number. Not sure if these where what came with my car but its what was giving to me when I bought car. My car was a 383 big block se 1969 charger. I also need to find dust sheilds and pads tks guys

found this for dust shields from yearone will this work for me. Correct type and gauge steel. Also has original part number stamping of 2823227. part number DBS69 Disc brake dust shield pair for 1966-69 B-body models.

Those are the correct rotors (BN144) for 4-piston bendix calipers. Yearone has the 1pc rotors that are better than the two pc.
I had my caliper done here: http://calipersonline.com/, they completely rebuild them with Stainless Steel Sleeves, new pistons, seals, boots, and bleeders. All internal passages are cleaned, and all threads are chased. They have a lifetime warranty.
Calipersonline does good work and the turn around was fairly quick too, less than a month. I just sent mine in to be redone, because he didn't have any cores at the time and then I didn't have to worry about the core charge either.

[MORFF]

Tks I am getting some money soon going to get my calipers done by them as well.

[MORFF]

Ok got my rotors from year one look nice. On the hub piece looks like tooling marks but other than that look nice. For the people who went with the one piece rotors and hub from year one. Is there any surprises for me do they work well with the stock  4 piston bendix calipers thanks guys.

[MORFF]

more pics of rotors. the 2of 2 marks is the second mark on first rotor. The 1 of 1 mark is the same mark on both rotors thats why though tooling mark. Just wanted to know if i should worry about these marks. or if they are tooling marks.

[pipeliner]

I wouldnt put em on my car.

[67tbird]

I dont know much about disc brakes, but with that tooling mark in it I'd be worried about it being out of balance, if you know somebody with an old school bubble balancer I'd check it out.

[Ghoste]

I found a set of NOS rotors for my car about 3 year ago and I'd have to go to the shop and pull a wheel to be sure but I don't recall any marks like that on the hub.  Your one of one pic may be on mine but that second pic looks a little suspect.

[MORFF]

 here is the mark one of one see on year ones web site so that mark must be good calling them today about other mark.  http://www.yearone.com/serverfiles/fbshopmain2.asp?input=bn144&SM=1&SC=

[resq302]

Well, if the one piece design is anything like the one that Mitchell Motors redid a few years ago, you will have to machine lathe down the hub area to clear the caliper once the caliper is mounted to the spindle.  Ive even heard that the repro rotor for the two piece set up requires some machining too.

[MORFF]

Got off the phone with year one said mark was just a casting flaw and will not effect the rotor posted a pic on there facebook page made it easier to show them with pics. So that makes me feel better I just wanted to make sure they would not crack said would change one for one if wanted.

[MORFF]

Dustininwy talk to Mark from http://calipersonline.com mine should be comming in a week. Now I got a question My stainless hard lines look ok where would you go to get the steal braided line to go to the caliper. I also need the (D19) brake pads where would you go for that. I am going to look at my bearings for the rotors in the front if good going to reuse them but if not where would you go for them?thanks guys

[MORFF]

Got my calipers from  http://calipersonline.com man look nice take pics soon all I have left to come is my 1.03 Torrsion bars from Hotchkis nice now if that BMW would get out of shop I can start making the underneath look good as the body guy finishes the rest.

[MORFF]

pics of caliper

[MORFF]

pics

[MORFF]

http://calipersonline.com said if want original bolts to mount each side of caliper let him know if you do not let him know he puts new bolts in, I wanted to get new bolts do not trust a bolt 43 years old. Need to get the braided steal line and fitting to go to steal line.

[resq302]

One thing I see right off the bat is that the new bolts they put in, the end ones had the head tapped out for bolting the mounting bracket for the steel line to rubber line.  I had to change mine out in order to mount that up.  Its not really that big of a deal but I wanted it on there since thats how it came originally.  Looks great otherwise.

[MORFF]

OK dont have those bolts anymore maybe can modify the bolts that are on them now? hopfully or can I buy those bolts from somewhere. I need to find fittings and the line to go to the hard lines anybody know anybody that has the fittings and lines I need TKS. I wanted to go steal braided to stainless hard line if posible.

[resq302]

I think I remember seeing them on Herb's Parts when I was surfing his site one time.   http://www.herbsparts.com/products.asp?cat=387    I think I got all my stainless steel brake and fuel lines from The Right Stuff.

[MORFF]

ok thanks

[dustininwy]

When I redid the front brakes. Here is where I got the parts that I needed.

Napa had the flex brake line (they are not steal braided) , bleeder valve and wheel bearings.
Napa also had the brake booster and the correct remanufactured master cylinder, but I didn't need them.
I picked up a few sets of brake pads on ebay, (8-9 years ago)
Yearone for the rotors.
Calipersonline for the rebuilt and sleeved calipers.

I also have the torque specs for the caliper mounting bolts, bleeder valve, ect.. if you need them.

[MORFF]

Thanks Dustininwy what part numbers do I have to give them to get right stuff. I also need the fitting on the caliper  that the flex line goes too. I was going to go though a company in mn. for pads. Dustininwy did you have to change out any bolts on the caliper to make work. I know my calipers will not be stock with the bolts that calipersonline put in but if they work i was going to leave them alone.

[MORFF]

dustininwy can i get pics of the year one rotors with calipers on them so i can see how everything goes if have them tks.

[dustininwy]

I can take some pictures of both side of the rotor and brake assembly mounted on my car. I will not be able to get to it till the weekend though.

The fitting on the caliper that goes to the flex line is here: http://www.yearone.com/serverfiles/fbshopmain2.asp?hid=118BL16642
I couldn't find a listing at napa for this part, but you could always ask when you are there and they may be able to find something.

Napa part numbers (I would still have napa look them up to verify)
Flex hose:  UP 381215
inner bearing: BRG BR6
outer bearing: BRG BR2
When I bought my rotors from yearone, one of the bearing races was already pressed in, I don't know if they still come like that or not, the description doesn' say.

I didn't change any of the bolts. They should bolt right on.

[dustininwy]

Also, the fitting that comes off the caliper that attaches to the flex hose has a bracket the attaches it to the caliper. When I take picturse this weekend I will make sure I get one of that.

[MORFF]

Thanks Dustininwy Dont have to be this weekend not going to be able to get to it tell next week or so. Have to wait tell a car comes out of garage so i can get mine in. The yearone fitting line QRB44 is that a line fittling combo one piece. The fitting that goes on the caliper the line is already attached to the fitting. Year one has two of them so is one for each side or two for each side thanks. Thanks for all the help I have the 1969 dodge charger maintenance manual that the dealer mechs used but a picture always makes it better. I got my bleader fittings from calipersonline so I am good with those.

[dustininwy]

The yearone fitting is one for each side.
I have the 1969 Dodge Service manual. The best purchase for my car I ever made. Some of the pictures could definitely be better though.

[MORFF]

Dustininwy took some pics of rotors from year one I think I have bearing races just need bearings what you think. They look like the Timken bearing races I put in Aircraft at my part time job working on Cesnas and Piper aircraft. If thats the case wow a simple desighn.

[resq302]

Looks by the first pic that Year One has the casting rights to that design now.  Clearly casted "YEAR ONE" on the inner lip of the hub area in the first pic.  Looks like they are trying to corner the market now.... first exclusive rights to the M&H repro wiring, then the Y1 cast into the repro 68-69 HP exhaust manifolds, and now  this!  I guess I really shouldn't complain since at least someone is making quality repro parts.

[dustininwy]

All the pictures of my bendix caliper setup are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dustininwy1/sets/72157626472017174/

054 by dustininwy, on Flickr


053 by dustininwy, on Flickr


057 by dustininwy, on Flickr

[resq302]

Dustin,

FYI - your steel line is in the wrong spot.  It should be where the bleeder screw is.  Bleeder screw always goes to the highest point.  Reason is that air pockets will go to the highest point, hence, the bleeder screw being at the highest point on the caliper.

Just curious, do you have a spongy brake pedal?

Ill try and take some pics of mine.

[resq302]

pics of bendix caliper correct brake line routing and bleeder screw.

[dustininwy]

Thanks resq302
No, the brakes are not spongy.
I will however switch it around and put the bleeder on top if thats where its supposed to go.
I don't know how long they have been on there wrong.
When I took the calipers off to get rebuilt thats how the brake lines ran to them, so I just put them back on the same way.

[MORFF]

Thanks for all pics guys with your pics and the dealer mech manual should be good hopefully.

[MORFF]

After looking at your pics have a question because of the bolts I have on my calipers now with no threads in the middle how did you get your bracket atached to the caliper on the two outside bolts on caliper. tks.

[resq302]

After looking at your pics have a question because of the bolts I have on my calipers now with no threads in the middle how did you get your bracket atached to the caliper on the two outside bolts on caliper. tks.

Thats why I was asking about the two outer bolts.  They are supposed to have a hollowed out head with threads in them for very short, small bolts to hold the bracket on.

[resq302]

Dustin,

Are those one piece repro rotors you are using?  Looks like the hub is the same size as the rotor.  My original two piece rotors hubs are a little wider than the actual rotor part.

[MORFF]

they are one piece the hub and rotor are not same size I zoomed in to see the bearing races or what i hoped the bearing races where. The rotors are what year one sells for 69 Chargers.

[MORFF]

whell guess I am going to buy some bolts unless there is another way of mounting bracket to caliper. Any sugestions from people who got calipers from calipersonline.com tks.

[resq302]

Morff,  I know yours are the one piece design made by year one.  I was curious as to what Dustin's rotors were because they look to be in VERY good shape but seems like it is also a one piece design.

[MORFF]

I bieleve he has the year one as well but with some miles on them.

[dustininwy]

They are repro rotors from yearone. Purchased in 2000.

[MORFF]

OK looked on the Bendix site and the other web site you guys told me about I can not find the outer two Calper Bridge bolts. Any web site sugestions Thanks

[resq302]

Try this place.  Downfall is they have a $30 min order.  http://www.amkproducts.com/

[dustininwy]

Did you have the original bolts with the calipers you sent in to calipers online.
I sent my calipers in with them on and they came back with the correct outer Caliper Bridge bolts for mounting that bracket.

[MORFF]

I sent my Calipers in with the orginal bolts installed on them. I will have to call him and get my orginal ones back.