What Is Making Gasoline Prices Higher..................

[Old Moparz]

It's never going to get any better. Don't look for it. Be happy with what you've got because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners. The big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations.

They've long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls. They got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying. Lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don't want. They don't want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking.

They don't want well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking. They're not interested in that. That doesn't help them. That's against their interests. That's right. They don't want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table and think about how badly they're getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fuckin' years ago. They don't want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers.

Obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it. And now they're coming for your Social Security money. They want your fuckin' retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street. And you know something? They'll get it.

They'll get it all from you sooner or later 'cause they own this fuckin' place. It's a big club and you ain't in it. You and I are not in the big club. By the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted, folks. The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice.

Nobody seems to care. Good, honest, hard-working people: white collar, blue collar, it doesn't matter what color shirt you have on. Good, honest, hard-working people continue — these are people of modest means — continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don't give a fuck about them. They don't give a fuck about you. They don't give a fuck about you. They don't care about you at all! At all! At all! And nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on.

The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes every day, because the owners of this country know the truth. It's called the American Dream, 'cause you have to be asleep to believe it.

-George Carlin 

[aussiemuscle]

Well enough for maybe 100 to 150 years or so.  We have 800 billion barrels in the western US alone.
Compare that to Saudi Arabia's 267 billion barrels.

wait till saudi's oil runs out before tapping your own. it'll be worth more then too!

australia has vast reserves of oil/gas, but they keep telling us that we need to import it from singapore.

it's all a con anyway, prices are set by OPEC, not by free market.

[Iceyone]

Everyone bitches about the price of gas but most don't even try to do anything about it. I've changed my driving habits to conserve whatever I can, like driving the speed limit and not making any unnecessary trips anywhere I don't need to go. It's to bad everyone can't get together and pick a day when nobody goes to a gas station, that would show those speculators. 

[TK73]

Everyone bitches about the price of gas but most don't even try to do anything about it. I've changed my driving habits to conserve whatever I can, like driving the speed limit and not making any unnecessary trips anywhere I don't need to go. It's to bad everyone can't get together and pick a day when nobody goes to a gas station, that would show those speculators. 

Yep.  I hate hearing somebody bitch about $4/gal gas who drives a 40k SUV.  Get a F-in Civic.

When I lived 25 miles from the office I split the driving with other people as often as possible.  I then moved 3 miles from the office and work a 4-day week. 

Even with 2 V-8 vehicles I halved my fuel consumption... and have yet to bitch about gas prices...

[mikesbbody]

I agree, while I would love to have a V8 as a daily driver I simply can't afford to drive one everyday.
Gas here is 2.15 (NZ Dollars) a Liter! I drive a 1.5 liter Nissan Shitter as a Daily driver I don't drive far,
And that still costs me about 45$ per week.

[gtx6970]

Re: What Is Making Gasoline Prices Higher..................

Fear.



I have a 11 year old truck ( paid for a long time ago)  that gets about 12-13 miles per gallon on a good day. I would love to get something newer that gets better gas mileage. diesel maybe.
Then I'm just paying the bank with a car payment instead of at the gas stations,,, I think with this economy I'll keep what I have for now.

[mikesbbody]

Did anyone here get the FW email Below? I don't know if it's a bunch of crap but worth a try maybe?
The prices are in New Zealand dollars per liter NOT Per Gallon so you don't have it as bad as we do! but I believe some places in Europe have it worse so....

THIS IS NOT THE 'DON'T BUY' PETROL FOR ONE DAY, BUT IT WILL SHOW YOU HOW WE CAN GET PETROL BACK DOWN TO $1.00 PER Litre....


This was originally sent by Phillip Hollsworth, a retired Coca Cola executive.
If you are tired of the gas prices going up AND they will continue to rise this winter, take time to read this, PLEASE.

Phillip offered this good idea.

This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the 'don't buy petrol on a certain day' campaign that was going around last April or May!

It is worth your consideration. Join the resistance!!!!

We are going to hit $ 2.50 a litre and it might go higher!! Want petrol prices to come down?

We need to take some intelligent, united action. The oil companies just laughed at last year's action because they knew we would not continue to 'hurt' ourselves by refusing to buy petrol.  It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them.  BUT whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work.
Please read on and join with us!

By now, you're probably thinking petrol priced at about $1.99 is cheap.
It is currently $2.09 for regular unleaded.

Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a litre of gas is CHEAP at $1.99, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace...not sellers.

With the price of gasoline going up more each day, we consumers need to take action...

The only way we are going to see the price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their petrol! And, we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves.

How? Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying petrol.

But we CAN have an impact on petrol prices if we all act together to force a price war.

Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol from BP
the biggest price-up driver company.

If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.

But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of BP petrol buyers. It's SO simple!
Now, don't wimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions and even BILLIONS of people!!

I am sending this note to 20 people..
If each of you sends it on to at least twenty more that's (20 x 20 = 400) ..
And those 400 send it to at least twenty more (400 x 20 = 8000 ... and so on,
by the time the message reaches the fifth group of people, we will have reached over SIXTY FOUR MILLION consumers!!!!!
20x20 = 400
400x20 = 8,000
8,000x20 = 160,000
160,000x20 = 3,200,000
3,200,000x20 = 64,000,000
64,000,000x20 = 12,800,000,000
That's 12.80 Billion people folks, who will have been contacted!!!!!

Unbelievable?? Do the math and see for yourself!
Again, all you have to do is send this to 20 people.   That's all!
I'll bet you didn't think we had that much potential, did you!
Acting together we can make a difference..

If this message makes sense to you, then please pass it on.
THEY will LOWER THEIR PRICES TO BELOW THE $1.50 RANGE AND KEEP THEM DOWN.
THIS CAN REALLY WORK.

It's simple – send the message along to others and choose to not buy petrol from BP.
TWENTY FIVE POINT SIX BILLION people: 

Now THAT's people power.

      LET'S
JUST DO IT ! ! !
More power to you friend.

[Vainglory, Esq.]

 

[mikesbbody]

yeah, to me the REAL Funny part is Nobody has the balls to give it a try  but I doubt it would work
People don't stand up to anything these days...

[Brock Samson]

 I thought there was a supposed worldwide boycott last time ('08?) when prices spiked...
we had a long thread on it, but I ain't gonna try to find it... Knock yourself out.  
My Gasoline usage is 10% or even less of what it was in '06.

[mikesbbody]

I only use BP for the Charger as it has the Higher Octane Rating. But I'm driving the Charger less and less now  I don't know about over there, but here they (BP) are the first to jack up there prices and last to lower them (like that goes on much  ) I won't be giving them my Business anymore laugh all you want at the idea of Boycotting BP, Buyers SHOULD control the Market Place not the sellers but sadly, this is not the case (People "wimp out" as mentioned)
With Supermarkets, The cheaper places do the best business I can't see why it can't for be the same for the Gas Companies 

[Troy]

Did anyone here get the FW email Below? I don't know if it's a bunch of crap but worth a try maybe?
The prices are in New Zealand dollars per liter NOT Per Gallon so you don't have it as bad as we do! but I believe some places in Europe have it worse so....

THIS IS NOT THE 'DON'T BUY' PETROL FOR ONE DAY, BUT IT WILL SHOW YOU HOW WE CAN GET PETROL BACK DOWN TO $1.00 PER Litre....


This was originally sent by Phillip Hollsworth, a retired Coca Cola executive.
If you are tired of the gas prices going up AND they will continue to rise this winter, take time to read this, PLEASE.

Phillip offered this good idea.

This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the 'don't buy petrol on a certain day' campaign that was going around last April or May!

It is worth your consideration. Join the resistance!!!!

We are going to hit $ 2.50 a litre and it might go higher!! Want petrol prices to come down?

We need to take some intelligent, united action. The oil companies just laughed at last year's action because they knew we would not continue to 'hurt' ourselves by refusing to buy petrol.  It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them.  BUT whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work.
Please read on and join with us!

By now, you're probably thinking petrol priced at about $1.99 is cheap.
It is currently $2.09 for regular unleaded.

Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a litre of gas is CHEAP at $1.99, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace...not sellers.

With the price of gasoline going up more each day, we consumers need to take action...

The only way we are going to see the price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their petrol! And, we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves.

How? Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying petrol.

But we CAN have an impact on petrol prices if we all act together to force a price war.

Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol from BP
the biggest price-up driver company.

If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.

But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of BP petrol buyers. It's SO simple!
Now, don't wimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions and even BILLIONS of people!!

I am sending this note to 20 people..
If each of you sends it on to at least twenty more that's (20 x 20 = 400) ..
And those 400 send it to at least twenty more (400 x 20 = 8000 ... and so on,
by the time the message reaches the fifth group of people, we will have reached over SIXTY FOUR MILLION consumers!!!!!
20x20 = 400
400x20 = 8,000
8,000x20 = 160,000
160,000x20 = 3,200,000
3,200,000x20 = 64,000,000
64,000,000x20 = 12,800,000,000
That's 12.80 Billion people folks, who will have been contacted!!!!!

Unbelievable?? Do the math and see for yourself!
Again, all you have to do is send this to 20 people.   That's all!
I'll bet you didn't think we had that much potential, did you!
Acting together we can make a difference..

If this message makes sense to you, then please pass it on.
THEY will LOWER THEIR PRICES TO BELOW THE $1.50 RANGE AND KEEP THEM DOWN.
THIS CAN REALLY WORK.

It's simple – send the message along to others and choose to not buy petrol from BP.
TWENTY FIVE POINT SIX BILLION people: 

Now THAT's people power.

      LET'S
JUST DO IT ! ! !
More power to you friend.

That's SPAM. Delete it. Block the person who sent it for being a douchebag. The first clue is the name dropping (Coca-Cola exec, OPEC, BP, etc.).

I explained all this a long time ago but boycotting gas for 1 day or boycotting 1 company without changing your consumption is completely useless. Gas/oil companies buy from each other and most stations are independently owned.

Troy

[Ghoste]

Not to mention that it's very old spam and it's becoming really tiring.

[mikesbbody]

Whatever, I'm still not Buying from BP. And not because of that email. not sure about over there when it comes to Buying from each other but here, BP is the only Company that sells 98 octane if they all sold to each other, they would ALL have 98 which they don't.

[Troy]

Whatever, I'm still not Buying from BP. And not because of that email. not sure about over there when it comes to Buying from each other but here, BP is the only Company that sells 98 octane if they all sold to each other, they would ALL have 98 which they don't.

Again, you're confusing the local station with the worldwide company. BP sells crude oil to other companies. I'm positive they sell refined products (gasoline, diesel, heating oil, etc.) to other companies as well (there aren't that many refineries or refinery owners). Many times the gasoline from the refinery travels across the country on pipelines. It's not cost effective for each company to have their own pipelines so they share. Somewhere later on is a wholesaler who delivers gasoline to the stations. In rural areas in our country you can watch the same tanker truck go from station to station - no matter what the name on the sign is. Many of the "additives" touted by the different brands are added from a bottle and mixed when the main tanks at the station are filled. Different grades (octane) are mixed to get the middle grades - most of the time this happens at the pump.

Cut your fuel usage in half and you'll make the world a better place. Boycott BP and your net effect on the planet will be negligible. I personally don't purchase BP fuel because I have better choices where I live. It's your life and you can do and believe whatever you want.

Troy

[mikesbbody]

Makes sense what you said Troy, my only personal Beef with BP (here in NZ) is they are always first to Raise Their Prices and last to lower them I have heard the Octane Rating is not to be taken as Gospel.
I have heard our 98 could actually be 95 some Guy's with Older American Car's swear Their car's run Better on BP's 98 I can't say for sure when it comes to my Charger maybe I'll look into it (other Companies) and see if there's any difference 

[Troy]

The prices are set by the individual station. There's a BP (but the brand doesn't matter) about 2 miles from my house that I absolutely won't buy anything from. The reason? Whenever there's a bad storm or other disaster they immediately jack up their prices (way beyond expectations too). I can bet that every time the weather report calls for snow this station will be $0.20-0.30 higher than anywhere else around. This is one of those owners who literally engage in "gouging" the consumer. Capitalizing on other's misfortune is about a low as you can get in my opinion. When Katrina hit they were one of the stations charging $5+ within hours. It's uncalled for and you can bet that I tell everyone I know. Maybe one day the owner will realize how much business they're losing by shafting their customers (although I doubt it).

Troy

[mikesbbody]

Yes, any excuse and up the price goes! for us in New Zealand, it's the exchange rate to the US Dollar and any Storm/Disaster. As soon as Katrina hit  this Guy you mentioned put his price's up BEFORE
Knowing the true impact on price at the pumps? he will lose business and with any luck may one day go out of Business. I was thinking about it Today Troy and I recall seeing "Shell" "BP" and maybe some other Gas Tankers on the road. I don't know if that means they just stop at "Shell" or "BP" etc I have no way of knowing that without following them (and that would cost me in Gas  ) but I would be interested to know, over there in the USA, is their one particular Company who seem to raise their prices first? The last time I was in the States was 2006, and the prices varied so much from state to state. Before that, I was there in 96 and it was WAY cheaper! both times we had 3 litre vehicle and did roughly the same distance (8000+ miles or an average of 2000 Miles per week!) in 96, it was easy, but in 2006, it hit us hard in the Pocket. Of course, a 10 year Gap didn't help but wow what a Difference!

[aussiemuscle]

If that campaign actually worked, all you would do is make all the BP franchise owners change to another brand. There are not many BP's in this area, nearest one is two hours away in the capital.

i'm in a small village of 1500 people. the four gas stations all buy their fuel from Caltex.

[mikesbbody]

Of course it's too good to be true maybe the only thing that would get the price down would be long term boycotts? I'll be taking more day's off work if it keeps my gas bill down I still think there must be something that can be done though     

[Mike DC]

        
CAFE standards are long-term gasoline boycotting by another name.  

 

 

[70charginglizard]

Looks like it may be going down finally just in time for summer-

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110505/ap_on_bi_ge/oil_prices

[tsmithae]

What if instead of fighting a war in the Middle East we had invested the money in helping Canada tap into their oil fields?  I mean, it's a LOT closer and then we create friends instead of enemies and also a new way to stimulate both economies...  Just a thought I've had. 

[TK73]

[RallyeMike]

What if instead of fighting a war in the Middle East we had invested the money in helping Canada tap into their oil fields?  I mean, it's a LOT closer and then we create friends instead of enemies and also a new way to stimulate both economies...  Just a thought I've had.

F- that. This is America. Next time the Qbeckies try and secede we'll just roll North and take over. You know... to protect the people from genocide and stuff.