66 Charger with a 67 engine

[jimcoronet]

Hi,
Just found this forum. I have bought (today) a 1966 Charger that has a 67 440 ci engine
in it. Apparently the metal moulding was a problem as well, because it also has 67
turn indicators at the end of the hood. At first I thought the guy was trying to sell a 67, but reading the door frame plate confirmed it is a 66. As this is my first classic car, I'm just so happy I found a Charger that I can afford.
Living in Canada (outside Montreal) I'm just waiting for the snow to melt to get her out on the road. Not wanting to offend any purists, but what do you guys think of what seems to be a mix and match 66 Charger?
Thanks

[Alaskan_TA]

The 1967 model year started in 1966. If it is like later years, the 1967 model year ran from August 1966 to the end of July 1967.

[Brock Samson]

Welcome Jim!  Great people here with a wealth of knowlage of all things, Mopars included...  
none will notice it's got a '67 trim on front save maybe a fellow first Generation owner... and the 440 is a better engine after all... win win I say, as I prefer a '66 interior to a '67's but would rather have the '67 turn indicators on the front corners and the magnum engine. Score!
Pics?.. 

[jimcoronet]

Thanks for the replies, guys. I will try to post some photos tomorrow under this thread.
Jim

[A383Wing]

I can probably help ya with any questions ya got...maybe parts also

email me at A383Wing@aol.com

we got a pair of 66 Chargers here

Bryan

[ODZKing]

...and I have a 67.  I'm sure one of us can come up with an answer.
As far as mix and match, Brock is correct.  Other than first gen guys, 99% of the people who look at it will not even realize.
Have fun with it and hopefully we'll see each other at a show eventually.  Moparfest or our show (CNYMopar.com) which is even closer for you at the end of June.  Get out and drive it!   Good luck.
Bob/Syracuse

[bull]

I've got a 1968 Charger with its original 1967 engine.

[A383Wing]

I've got a 1968 Charger with its original 1967 engine.

true..but yours is an early car if I remember....the original post was that he had a 66 Charger with a 67 440 engine....440 was not offered in the 66 Chargers...only 67 & up

[ITSA426]

Bryan is correct.  Welcome Jim.  I only have two 67s... and some 66s.  Any questions can be answered here by someone.

[bull]

I've got a 1968 Charger with its original 1967 engine.

true..but yours is an early car if I remember....the original post was that he had a 66 Charger with a 67 440 engine....440 was not offered in the 66 Chargers...only 67 & up

You are correct, and I was not trying to say otherwise.

[bobs66440]

Welcome to a new 1st gen owner!! 

[jimcoronet]

I'm trying to post some pictures  but not having much luck. Not sure what I m doing wrong

[jimcoronet]

A few more

[Nacho-RT74]

let's begin to say, the 440 wasn't an option on 66

[jimcoronet]

Understood. Someone down the line must have taken out the original engine (should have been a 383 according to the door plate) and dropped in this engine. There is also a small gap between the trim with the turn indicators and the rest of the trim/moulding down the front fender. In any case, I'm just up on cloud 9 for finally owning one (just ask my wife and kids!!!)

[A383Wing]

interesting fan shroud....car looks good from what you've posted so far

[mauve66]

the main question to determine its authenticity is what color is the front grill medallion.....................................................

[bobs66440]

They are a unique and fun car! Congrats!   I really like the color!  

[ChgrSteve67]

Welcome to the site.

Mine is a 67 with a 69 block.

440 engine swaps are pretty comon and should not affect the value of the car if that is what you are worried about.
The turn signals on the front fendors are a nice touch, very few people will know they are not correct for a 66. Do they work?

Having fun is the name of the game.
Congradulations!

-Steve

[A383Wing]

let's begin to say, the 440 wasn't an option on 66

only available in the "C" body cars..

[ODZKing]

Hard to tell but it looks as if the color isn't a 66 or 67 color ... so I wouldn't worry about "original" at this point.  It's a greta looking car.
As far as the fron trim, the fender tip and piece behind are different 66 to 67.  They probably tried to use a 66 piece.  Won't work, even if you cut the angle, it is still short.
As far as the medalion ...  ...  don't go there! 

[bobs66440]

let's begin to say, the 440 wasn't an option on 66

only available in the "C" body cars..

Yeah, mine's a '66 dated 440, probably from a New Yorker or Imperial.

[jimcoronet]

Hi all,
Thanks for all the replies. As I mentioned, I only bought it yesterday, and it will remain in storage until all the snow is gone up here. I don't see myself driving it for another month or so. The anticipation is killing me. I envy those of you who can drive all year round. Anyone else here from Canada? I have spoken to the seller to clear up a few points. He owned it for 8 years and it had the 440 when he bought it as well as the turn indicators. He says he can't tell me any more than that. I'm not concerned about it at all. I think it's just such a cool ride!! As far as the paint colour goes, I was not able to find this colour as being an original paint choice, so I asked him about it. He called it 1994 Ford Ranger blue. He saw this colour on a ford truck and liked it so much he used it for the Charger!!! Without opening a can of worms, what's this about the front grille medallion?? Thanks

[Brock Samson]

rare   

[bobs66440]

Without opening a can of worms, what's this about the front grille medallion?? Thanks

Ha ha, that can has been opened and most of the worms escaped!! Seriously, it's kind of a (mostly  ) friendly debate among the 1st gen guys about what color the front medallion was when these cars left the factory. Red or gold. Some say they were originally red and faded to gold in time as some are red, some are orangish gold and some are full gold. Some say they were gold to begin with...you get the idea. So, what color is yours? 

[66chargertoy]

Welcome to the world of Mopars and to this site . My 66 charger also has a transplanted 440 and is a blast to cruse around with. I'm just down the road from you in Ottawa if you ever come by this way. A couple of first gens running around here, pretty unique model year and you will get lots of attention when running around with it. Drive it like its' stolen ( or just a bit till the wife gives you the hairy eyeball from the passenger seat )
Denis

[greenpigs]

let's begin to say, the 440 wasn't an option on 66

Nacho

That was said already in a previous post.

[66chargertoy]

...and I have a 67.  I'm sure one of us can come up with an answer.
As far as mix and match, Brock is correct.  Other than first gen guys, 99% of the people who look at it will not even realize.
Have fun with it and hopefully we'll see each other at a show eventually.  Moparfest or our show (CNYMopar.com) which is even closer for you at the end of June.  Get out and drive it!   Good luck.
Bob/Syracuse

Hey Bob, if I wanted to go to your Moparfest this coming June, is there a place I can park the charger near the show, not really interested in putting in for judging, just like to park it somewhere other than the public parking, if that makes any sense to you at all. Also, what would be a decent hotel close enough to the show. Will be coming in from Ottawa, Canada.
Denis

[ODZKing]

Hey Bob, if I wanted to go to your Moparfest this coming June, is there a place I can park the charger near the show, not really interested in putting in for judging, just like to park it somewhere other than the public parking, if that makes any sense to you at all. Also, what would be a decent hotel close enough to the show. Will be coming in from Ottawa, Canada.
Denis

Denis,
You'll enjoy our show.  Beautiful park setting and a fun day as you can see from the pics on our site (www.cnymopar.com).
As far as parking, it is a huge lot and yiu certainly could park it away from everyone.  But never be afraid to park with cars in yiur class.  We have your show calss and then a "fun field", which is a non judged park with your friends place in the show.
We get many people who do that.
As far as hotels http://www.expedia.com/Hotel-Search?c=71799e06-38ec-426f-ae8b-9dd15d89ae25&
And the ones I would suggest that are near are as follows:
Best Western Plus Liverpool Grace Inn & Suites
Super 8 Motel - Liverpool/ Clay
Knights Inn. Liverpool
Homewood, Liverpool
Staybridge Suites Liverpool
Holiday Inn - Livepool
Quality Inn - Liverpool
Price wise ... Super 8 is most likely your best.
If you come down, be sure to let me know.  We'll get Gibber and have dinner or a cook out Saturday night.

[Topher]

Welcome to the Charger club. Shame you bought a 66 as 67s are WAY cooler.  There are a number of us in here that can help you with dang near all your problems.....WITH the Charger. You should definately get rid of that FERD blue-BLACK is faster!  You have a killer ride there for sure. If you're this excited about it and haven't even driven it yet, I feel for your wife when you do! Enjoy!

[GPULLER]

Great car!
I have a '66 also, I pulled the stuck 318 ploy and installed a '75 440.  I'm not one to get hung up on the numbers matching or not, I just like to drive.  Soon the snow will be gone and you can putting on miles!

[ITSA426]

Soon when Reed?

[bobs66440]

Welcome to the Charger club. Shame you bought a 66 as 67s are WAY cooler. 

[tan top]

hello & welcome Jim    nice looking first generation 

[jimcoronet]

Great car!
I have a '66 also, I pulled the stuck 318 ploy and installed a '75 440.  I'm not one to get hung up on the numbers matching or not, I just like to drive.  Soon the snow will be gone and you can putting on miles!

Hi GPULLER,
Happy to hear that the snow will be gone soon. Here in St Bruno Quebec (outside Montreal) I've got nowhere left to shovel the d*** stuff. Being from Minnesota, I'm sure you can sympathize. I plan to use the next few weeks to learn more about the car, clean it up and get used to the idea of having such a great car !!!

[67440chrg]

Welcome you have a great looking Charger. The color looks good to me. I am in Mo so our high temps are in the 40s. Its raining almost every day but it will be any day and my 67 will be back on the road. Dont worry about being original my car has all the trim gone and holes leaded in. I like it that way.

[bobs66440]

Great car!
I have a '66 also, I pulled the stuck 318 ploy and installed a '75 440.  I'm not one to get hung up on the numbers matching or not, I just like to drive.  Soon the snow will be gone and you can putting on miles!

Hi GPULLER,
Happy to hear that the snow will be gone soon. Here in St Bruno Quebec (outside Montreal) I've got nowhere left to shovel the d*** stuff. Being from Minnesota, I'm sure you can sympathize. I plan to use the next few weeks to learn more about the car, clean it up and get used to the idea of having such a great car !!!

Do the head lights and dash lights work? If so, you're home free!

[Brock Samson]

i nearly painted my charger that ford blue, it really is a sweet color... glad you found the site and the charger! 

[FlatbackFanatic]

Great car!
I have a '66 also, I pulled the stuck 318 ploy and installed a '75 440.  I'm not one to get hung up on the numbers matching or not, I just like to drive.  Soon the snow will be gone and you can putting on miles!

I hope our snow will be gone as quick as yours, Reed(lol) .
 I like the blue of your charger, I too have a 66 440 in my Charger out of a C body. I'm hoping the snow will be gone by July.
Welcome to the site by the way.