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[Richard Cranium]

Don't put wire on your windows – it might hurt burglars! Villagers outraged after police order them not to protect garden sheds 

Residents in Surrey and Kent villages have been ordered by police to remove wire mesh from their windows as burglars could be injured.
Home owners in the villages of Tandridge and Tatsfield in Surrey and in Westerham, Brasted and Sundridge in Kent have said they are furious that they are being branded 'criminals' for protecting their property.
Locals had reinforced their windows with wire mesh after a series of shed thefts but were told by community police officers that the wire was 'dangerous' and could lead to criminals claiming compensation if they 'hurt themselves'.
'Dangerous': Police have told villagers that wire mesh protecting their windows could hurt burglars and lead to lawsuits
Surrey Police have defended the move but outraged residents have attacked the force for seemingly trying to protect criminals.
Thomas Cooper, of Tatsfield, Surrey, said he put the mesh around three of his garden sheds after two break-ins over the past four years.

He said he decided to take action after reports of a rise in shed burglaries in the area near the Kent and Surrey border.

'I have three sheds and had two break-ins in the past four years,' Mr Cooper explained.

'I reinforced my shed windows with wire mesh, but was told by the police I had to be very careful because thieves can actually sue you if they get hurt.

'"I mean, what are you meant to do? Let them take your stuff? It is ridiculous that the law protects them even though they are breaking it.'
More...As a family of 14 gypsies face eviction for terrorising their neighbours and wrecking the £1.2m home where they live on benefits, will they trash YOUR street next?

Last month mother-of-three Samantha Cullum had her entire shed pinched in the village of Brasted, near Sevenoaks in Kent, when thieves simply lifted it onto a truck in the dead of night.

'We had some tools stolen every now and again, but this time they took the entire shed - I couldn't believe it.'
Tatsfield homeowner Dave Bishop labelled the police advice 'unbelievable' and said people should be allowed to protect their property.

Breaking and entry: Police warned criminals could sue if they sustain injuries while attempting burglary
Crime reduction officer for Tandridge PC John Lee commented: 'We are constantly advising homeowners to protect their property and the contents of their shed or garage, however, a commonsense approach needs to be taken.

'To properly secure your sheds, Surrey Police strongly advises people to invest in items such as good-quality locks and bolts, and not to resort to homemade devices, as this could cause injury.'

A police source  added: 'Homemade devices can cause injury and there have been cases where criminals have sued for injuries they have suffered while committing a criminal act.

'We are advising people to do whatever they can to protect their property, but wire mesh is not one of the suggestions we would make.'


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1356388/Villagers-outraged-police-order-protect-garden-sheds.html

[1969chargerrtse]

We are already thewre I thought?

"told by community police officers that the wire was 'dangerous' and could lead to criminals claiming compensation if they 'hurt themselves'."  

Gee the the Lawer problem is everywhere.

[chargermike]

why do you need a window in a shed. buy a light. no window no break in. and fuck the thief. sue him back for property damage plus tresspassing.  instead of wire try plywood over the window. again the window is the problem. and your local police are just pussies. maybe they should just do there job. but they have more inportant things to do like speed traps. they will collect money before handling crime.  there are no real cops any more. there just revune collectors.

[Mr.Woolery]

The message that is being sent to me with this story is that the best way to deal with a criminal is to be a more wily, ruthless criminal.

Their bodies will never be found.

[DodgeByDave]

The message that is being sent to me with this story is that the best way to deal with a criminal is to be a more wily, ruthless criminal.

Their bodies will never be found.

That has been the policy around here since before my time. It's called the 3 S's.

Shoot

Shovel

Shut up

[Chad L. Magee]

May I interject some chemistry here?  Why bury what you can wear or possibly sell?  Gives a whole new meaning to Bling-Bling... (not advicating killing though, malicious maiming is how I prefer deal with thieves)

http://www.artinashes.com/Making-Diamonds-from-Ashes-information.php

[Todd Wilson]

And the heck of it is theres plenty of slime ball lawyers out there that would take the case so they can line their pockets with $$$ too!


Todd

[bull]

How does the saying go? Dead men tell no tales. They don't sue very often either.

[skip68]

So, this mentality means if I get drunk and smash my car into your steel fence, I can sue you for the damage to my car from the steel fence ?  After all, a wood fence would have done less damage.

[Todd Wilson]

So, this mentality means if I get drunk and smash my car into your steel fence, I can sue you for the damage to my car from the steel fence ?  After all, a wood fence would have done less damage.

You are catching on fast!!!!!!!!!!


Todd

[Iceyone]

So I assume that embedding broken glass on top of your fence and window sills might also be a problem?  I've seen that done in several countries I've traveled through.

[69rtse4spd]

I have been told, that pigs will eat everthing, bones & all. .

[Chad L. Magee]

I have been told, that pigs will eat everything, bones & all. .

The problem is that the digested remains still contain traces of DNA, enough that they can link back to the person who was eaten.  If you do the diamond thing, then heat it with a jeweler's torch and drop it in liquid oxygen, pretty much all that is left is carbon dioxide gas in the air.  That makes tracing much more difficult to do....

[djcarguy]

 lets all git us sum wood chippers and a shed full of lye and bleach and a backhoe and old well and bottem less pit,lol

[Troy]

So I assume that embedding broken glass on top of your fence and window sills might also be a problem?  I've seen that done in several countries I've traveled through.

And those countries don't have legal systems like we (United States) do. That story was from the UK I imagine. They're slightly more liberal than us but we're trying hard to catch up! Once upon a time, I used to compete in car stereo competitions. We had some very elaborate anti-theft measures - until we found out we were liable for any injuries! Some of the more devious ones were razor blades glued to the bottom of the back edge of the radio, halon fire extinguishers in the A/C vents and tied to a pressure switch in the seats, and high voltage capacitors wired to the door handles. Good times!

Have you ever watched any videos of driving in India, Mexico, Iran, etc? There are no personal responsibility laws or insurance requirements. Not to mention the crooked police. My friend is from Iran and everyone wants to be an engineer or mathematician. He says there's no need for lawyers and no money to be made in it.

Troy

[Tilar]

The message that is being sent to me with this story is that the best way to deal with a criminal is to be a more wily, ruthless criminal.

Their bodies will never be found.

That has been the policy around here since before my time. It's called the 3 S's.

Shoot

Shovel

Shut up

Back in the late 70's the sheriff of Smith County Texas came by asking if my wife and I had seen anything over the few previous days and said that there had been a couple break-ins around the neighborhood. I hadn't seen anything but I asked him what kind of trouble I would get into if I shot someone trying to break in my house. His response? "Shoot them, drag them in the house and throw them through a window. I promise I won't question it."

[mikesbbody]

The message that is being sent to me with this story is that the best way to deal with a criminal is to be a more wily, ruthless criminal.

Their bodies will never be found.

That has been the policy around here since before my time. It's called the 3 S's.

Shoot

Shovel

Shut up

Back in the late 70's the sheriff of Smith County Texas came by asking if my wife and I had seen anything over the few previous days and said that there had been a couple break-ins around the neighborhood. I hadn't seen anything but I asked him what kind of trouble I would get into if I shot someone trying to break in my house. His response? "Shoot them, drag them in the house and throw them through a window. I promise I won't question it."

sadly, that is no longer the case...