original general lee on ebay.parts taken off. what is your opinion??

[police1]

did anyone see the general lee(#13) on e-bay? ashame someone in the first place repainted it but took off doors,fenders,etc... and replaced with other stuff and repainted it! of course sold parts to make more money from it. sad that people can't leave something as found and not rob parts then try to sell as an original form the series? if half of the parts or more arent original anymore what do you call  it??

[PocketThunder]

how about a linky link?   for us lazy people.

[jb666]

how about a linky link?   for us lazy people.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-Dodge-Charger-General-Lee-Dukes-Hazzard-Mopar-/260732299261?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3cb4db27fd

[Richard Cranium]

There were about 600 General Lees made for the show.; who cares if it's one of them. As far as I can tell, that car's just a roach.

[JT01]

I first saw that car in person at DukesFest 2001 I liked the way it looked then better all faded than the way it does now. I would love to have it to put in my Dukes collection

[UH60L]

There were about 600 General Lees made for the show.; who cares if it's one of them. As far as I can tell, that car's just a roach.

Gee, troll much?

In reality, in the 31 years or so since the show went off the air, the highest estimate I have heard or read is that they made / used 321 cars, a huge, ginormous amount that was, in fact, , less than .1 % of all '68 and '69 chargers comined.

Contrary to some people's belief, being a general lee that was used in teh show actually does make the car worth more money.

But hey, some people will coninue to hate and throw out disinformation.

Whatever.  Don't forget to check your bate once in a while.......

[JT01]

The count was 319 or 321 for the Chargers used they did use about 600 police cars thats what the lead mechanic Tom Sacramento said.

[WB General Lee]

Whether its 300 or 600 its sure hard to find anyone who owns an original one especially with paperwork. There are sure none in my town. I have been offered 100k for mine.

[UH60L]

I've only ever seen one in person.  A guy from Seattle brought his car down to Salem for our club's all mopar show a few years ago.  He was appearantly one of the people that did the "group buy" of the remaining cars (17 of them I think) from Warner Brothers (or whoever owned them at the time).

He left it in "as was" condition, still had dings and small dent.  He let me climb through the window and get my picture taken and let me get a shot of my car next to it at the end of the day.

I don't remember his name, but he was a really nice guy, and seemed to have as much fun talking to people about the car as they did getting to see it.

I would imagine those cars are worth $100k or more depending on the condition and finding a buyer that really wants one.

It's a shame that a charger would get piece mealed out and sold like that, general lee or not.

[Mike DC]

   
We'll never know what the surviving real GLs would/should be worth.  Every phony sale of a "real GL" in the last 30 years has diluted the theoretical demand for the real ones. 

[WB General Lee]

Its all in the documentation and paperwork. The more you have, the more a car is worth.

[Mike DC]

                   
The 17 tv-series cars from Wayne Wooten's deal and the 2005 movie cars are the vast majority of the survivors, and they are not really in any question. 

The problem is just with the other cars.  The few undocumented tv-series cars that somehow got out against WB's will, the few other cars that have some link to WB or the show's mechanics but were never actually used onscreen, etc.

[Richard Cranium]

There were about 600 General Lees made for the show.; who cares if it's one of them. As far as I can tell, that car's just a roach.

Gee, troll much?

In reality, in the 31 years or so since the show went off the air, the highest estimate I have heard or read is that they made / used 321 cars, a huge, ginormous amount that was, in fact, , less than .1 % of all '68 and '69 chargers comined.

Contrary to some people's belief, being a general lee that was used in teh show actually does make the car worth more money.

But hey, some people will coninue to hate and throw out disinformation.

Whatever.  Don't forget to check your bate once in a while.......

I'm not a fisherman; do roaches make good bait?

[WB General Lee]

To me the ones linked to the mechanics don't have to much value over a replica. A screen used car will always have the value and if you have documents then you are solid. When any car has seen the camera it is valuable even if it had a small part.

[UH60L]

There were about 600 General Lees made for the show.; who cares if it's one of them. As far as I can tell, that car's just a roach.

Gee, troll much?

In reality, in the 31 years or so since the show went off the air, the highest estimate I have heard or read is that they made / used 321 cars, a huge, ginormous amount that was, in fact, , less than .1 % of all '68 and '69 chargers comined.

Contrary to some people's belief, being a general lee that was used in teh show actually does make the car worth more money.

But hey, some people will coninue to hate and throw out disinformation.

Whatever.  Don't forget to check your bate once in a while.......

I'm not a fisherman; do roaches make good bait?

Nah, fish don't like pot, except that one in the Cheech and Chong movie that "fish lipped it".     

[Richard Cranium]

I would imagine those cars are worth $100k or more depending on the condition and finding a buyer that really wants one.

$100 large for a General Lee Charger that was on the tv show? It's plain to see that every car they used was a beat box (at best) and they "retired" from the show in even worse shape. However, if that 100 large figure is true, that would make a low mileage fully restored Hemi car worth about elevety billion. 

[WB General Lee]

Let me know when you find a stunt General Lee that carries a Warner Brothers title and a folder of documentation with pictures of the car on the movie set and DMV records of when the car car was purchased by WB that is in fantastic shape with all the stunt modifications still intact and let me know what they are asking for the car. Just curious if you have ever seen one.

John S. put a car in the Barret Jackson years back that was never on the TV show or movie and he got 450,000 and then a few years later when the market crashed it still brought 250,000.

[UH60L]

I would imagine those cars are worth $100k or more depending on the condition and finding a buyer that really wants one.

$100 large for a General Lee Charger that was on the tv show? It's plain to see that every car they used was a beat box (at best) and they "retired" from the show in even worse shape. However, if that 100 large figure is true, that would make a low mileage fully restored Hemi car worth about elevety billion. 

I shouldn't even respond, but just in case you really don't understand........

There are 17 documented, sold by Warner Brothers, SURVIVOR General Lee cars out there in the world.  17 out of an approximate 320 used on the show.  These 17 were not "retired" from the show.  They were not the ones you see with the whole frame bent 45 degrees.

And, yes, they really are worth that much, or more.  The reality is, there are fewer documented original General Lee cars than there are '69 charger daytonas or '70 Hemi 'cudas.

If you really didn't know that, well fine.  If your just trolling, then I see why you use that name.   

[Richard Cranium]

That's where the confusion/misunderstanding lies. Yes, I can understand that John Schneider's personal car IS worth a bunch of dough because it was on the show, it was his car, has documentation, and is signed by him. As evidenced by what you can see in the trunk photo, that car is far from a pristine show car and I understand that the value is based on who owned it, not the condition. That being said, some of you guys make it sound like any & all of the old Dukes tv cars are the holy grail of Chargers; I  just happen to think otherwise. 

As much as it may pain a few here, I still stand by my earlier comments that the fleabay car in the link above is still just a roach. 

[Mike DC]

   
The Titanic is basically just a rotten blob of iron oxide too.  But people pay zillions of dollars for little scraps of it.  A very nice replica of a Titanic relic does not sell for more than the raggedy original. 


To each his own.  Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. 

[Richard Cranium]

   
The Titanic is basically just a rotten blob of iron oxide too.  But people pay zillions of dollars for little scraps of it.  A very nice replica of a Titanic relic does not sell for more than the raggedy original. 


To each his own.  Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. 

1. If there were several hundred Titanics lying around, the price of scraps from each one would be worth far less.

2. Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes all the way to the bone.  

[Ghoste]

Even though on the one hand I could say that I completely don't get a GL being worth so much money, on the other side I have to admit that if someone came to me with whatever was left of modelmakers old DMCL Charger, I would pay a stupid amount of money for it.  Maybe not as much as that GL is going for but I would pay a lot of money for it even if it is crushed ball of rusting sheet metal.  I'm not really sure what a stupid amount is specifically for a crushed rusty ball  but I know I would outbid the Chinese scrap dealers.

[Brock Samson]

Even though on the one hand I could say that I completely don't get a GL being worth so much money, on the other side I have to admit that if someone came to me with whatever was left of modelmakers old DMCL Charger, I would pay a stupid amount of money for it.  Maybe not as much as that GL is going for but I would pay a lot of money for it even if it is crushed ball of rusting sheet metal.  I'm not really sure what a stupid amount is specifically for a crushed rusty ball  but I know I would outbid the Chinese scrap dealers.

  That made me laugh a fair amount..   

[Ghoste]

I suppose my point is just that we all like what we like and it's value is relative.

[Brock Samson]

I suppose my point is just that we all like what we like and it's value is relative.

I know what you meant, It was just expressed in a rather insightful manner... 

[Mike DC]

                  
A lot of the GL's appeal is the childhood connection.  There's no measuring what that can make an object worth to some people.    



The original Luke Skywalker lightsaber handle prop was nothing special.  Just an old 1930s/40s press photography flashbulb handle with a few extra little parts glued onto it.  But let's see what the real thing from the 1977 movie would bring on Ebay.  

   

[UH60L]

That's where the confusion/misunderstanding lies. Yes, I can understand that John Schneider's personal car IS worth a bunch of dough because it was on the show, it was his car, has documentation, and is signed by him. As evidenced by what you can see in the trunk photo, that car is far from a pristine show car and I understand that the value is based on who owned it, not the condition. That being said, some of you guys make it sound like any & all of the old Dukes tv cars are the holy grail of Chargers; I  just happen to think otherwise. 

As much as it may pain a few here, I still stand by my earlier comments that the fleabay car in the link above is still just a roach. 

Ok, pay attention.  Here is a quote from the above post:

"John S. put a car in the Barret Jackson years back that was never on the TV show or movie"

Notice his car WAS NEVER ON THE TV SHOW OR MOVIE.  IE, eeeeeehhhh, wrong again.

AND, as stated before, there are only 17 "any & all of the old Dukes tv cars".  The rest, as far as we know, were curshed and scrapped.

So, yes, in essence, those 17 ARE a holy grail of sorts.  If that car on ebay was one of the 17, then it WAS worth quite a bit before it was piece mealed out for money.

Now stop trolling.  (or if you really don't get it, please go do some research (google) before you post this crap)

[Richard Cranium]

                 
A lot of the GL's appeal is the childhood connection.     

And others are just obsessed (as some here are). Now, who's going to fess up to owning this?   

[WB General Lee]

The General Lee is the most famous movie car of all time. Only the Batmobile can be argued against that statement. All ages know this car. Out of the 25 or so Mopar musclecars I have owned never a car got the attention this one does. I could park next to a Hemi Cuda or a 427 Vette at the Woodward Cruise and people would come up to the General Lee. They didn't even know the car was authentic but when they found out, they would go crazy.

Yes John S. car did have lots of autographs on that car but which show or movie was that car ever seen on? It was only in a reunion show years after the TV show that was not that great. It also had an very average paint job on it. It is worth some money but not 450,000. I was offered one of Johns cars years back I think it was the first one he built and owned for a while. They wanted under 20k.  It had registration of ownership but wasn't in the best shape but that's far from 450,000. I could have put a Hemi in it and had 35k in it.



Not all the GL's were junk. How old were those cars in 1978 when the Dukes of Hazzard began? Not even 10 years old.

[UH60L]

                 
A lot of the GL's appeal is the childhood connection.     

And others are just obsessed (as some here are). Now, who's going to fess up to owning this?   

That's quite a collection of stuff.

MY family was what you might call "poor" (or at least my dad thought we were....), so the only thing I ever got related to the show was a hot wheel car and a couple of tyco slot cars.  Well, that and a never ending desire to own a '68 or '69 charger.  Buying one finally is a decision I will never regret.

[GL#10]

There are 23 tv series General Lee survivors , not just the 17  , and now there are a bunch of movie General Lee survivors as well .

 
 

K.c

[Cooter]

UH60L, I usually try to stay away from General Lee posts as this is what happens with the haters. You can mention Hemi Chargers all day long and nobody gives a sh*t, but mention the most famous Car ever concieved, and here come the haters. Theycannot help themselves. it is an uncontrollable reflex to try and crush on that orange Dodge everytime there's a thread on it. You are not alone in your love for that car my friend...You might wanna think about Carlisle this year, my General Lee will be there and The CCC (Christine Car Club)has a little surprize...Love for the General Lee will never die. Hemi Chargers are loved, but only buy a certain group..The GL is picking up younger and younger viewers daily. I still see little kids running up to my car with that same look of wonder and amazement you and a whole lot of others had way back in 1979...They could give two rats asses about a 426 Hemi Charger, one of 3...Like it or not, DMCL Charger is famous, but no car will EVER be as famous as the General Lee...

Stand on it brother, and don't let these haters get to ya....PS, does anybody remember the DOH Eating trays with the fold out legs underneath? I got one and thought maybe ya'll would like a picture of it..

[skip68]

I think General Lee's are gay.  But I love mine.....

[police1]

i think GL#10 needs to take his meds again...

[UH60L]

.......

There are 23 tv series General Lee survivors , not just the 17  ,that keeps getting played over and over , and now there are a bunch of movie General Lee survivors as well .


K.c

I don't know about nay of that other stuff, bt as for the numer of General Lees, I know htere were 17 purchased form Warner Brothers, and that they kept 2 or 3 for putting on display or in museums or something, so that would be 20, and I know that "LEE 1" was saved and restored, so that would be 21.  I don't know about any others, though I have seen mention on here recently that a couple slipped out and were not crushed.  

In my comment above, i referred to 17 out there in the world.  I figure the "LEE 1" is probably in a museum or in storage, and don't really count that one, nor do I count the ones still owned by Warner Brothers or Universal or whoever owns them now.  I don't count the ones from the 2005 movie either.  I won't let my family watch it.  I watched it and mostly cringed.  Turnign the car into a symbol of hatred to kiss up to people?!!, Wrong, just wrong.

[djcarguy]

     SO ANYONE EVEN KNOW WHO IS SIGNING THE TRUNK LID IN PICTURE????HELL OF AN INVESTMENT IF THEY LOST 200,000 K ON SALE OF JOHN'S CAR..   I WATCHED THE SHOW AND HAVE MODELS AND SOME TOYS,AND A ORANGE PICKUP .   BYE

[JT01]

Mark Osborne owns the 2 lost General Lees www.lostgenerallee.com

[pipeliner]

    SO ANYONE EVEN KNOW WHO IS SIGNING THE TRUNK LID IN PICTURE????HELL OF AN INVESTMENT IF THEY LOST 200,000 K ON SALE OF JOHN'S CAR..   I WATCHED THE SHOW AND HAVE MODELS AND SOME TOYS,AND A ORANGE PICKUP .   BYE

Nobody even noticed they waisted a good 70 decklid on it  .I like General Lees but when I think of the Dodge Charger that was in a REAL MOVIE the big black 68 in Bulitt comes to mind first.

[Richard Cranium]

[moparstuart]

    SO ANYONE EVEN KNOW WHO IS SIGNING THE TRUNK LID IN PICTURE????HELL OF AN INVESTMENT IF THEY LOST 200,000 K ON SALE OF JOHN'S CAR..   I WATCHED THE SHOW AND HAVE MODELS AND SOME TOYS,AND A ORANGE PICKUP .   BYE

Nobody even noticed they waisted a good 70 decklid on it  .I like General Lees but when I think of the Dodge Charger that was in a REAL MOVIE the big black 68 in Bulitt comes to mind first.

[Cooter]

Nobody even noticed they waisted a good 70 decklid on it  .I like General Lees but when I think of the Dodge Charger that was in a REAL MOVIE the big black 68 in Bulitt comes to mind first.

Then it ust REALLY suck when you ask anybody on the street about a black Charger and nobody has even heard of "Bulitt", cept for the Mopar People....

By the post above, it shows you can paint ANYTHING Orange and an"01" on the doors and it's clearly visible as the "General Lee"...Hate on it if you like, but we all know that's primarily what got most of us right here on this very site...

[Brock Samson]

 Not me... 

[WB General Lee]

That was Enos that was signing the decklid and Cletus also. My other car is signed by John and Daisey.
Don't forget the John S. car sold in a recession for 250,000
Here are my two cars finally reunited!

[CornDogsCharger]

Ok, pay attention.  Here is a quote from the above post:


"John S. put a car in the Barret Jackson years back that was never on the TV show or movie"

Notice his car WAS NEVER ON THE TV SHOW OR MOVIE.  IE, eeeeeehhhh, wrong again.

AND, as stated before, there are only 17 "any & all of the old Dukes tv cars".  The rest, as far as we know, were curshed and scrapped.

So, yes, in essence, those 17 ARE a holy grail of sorts.  If that car on ebay was one of the 17, then it WAS worth quite a bit before it was piece mealed out for money.

Now stop trolling.  (or if you really don't get it, please go do some research (google) before you post this crap)

WB had 19 cars left over.  They sold 17 to The Dodge Charger Registry (Wayne Wooten) and kept two cars.  One was a close up car and the other was the sound stage car.  Lee 1 was found in GA (20).  #13 (the car mentioned in this thread) was found in North Carolina in the back yard of one of the stunt men (21).  And finally, 2 beat up Chargers that were used in the low budget movie "Gladiator" were found on a lot in California.  Both of these cars were former General Lees purchased from WB after the series was over.  (22 & 23).  There's your 23 TV series cars.  Theres no telling how many other cars might still be out there waiting to be found.

The TV series close up car that WB kept (when they sold the other 17) was repainted and used in "Forever Young" in the early 90's.  Then this car was repainted back into a GL and used in both '97 and '00 TV Reunion movies.  Two more cars were purchased for the TV Reunion movies, one of which I have... and John Schneider's General Lee was leased and used in the Reunions also.  So that makes 1 TV series car and 3 additional cars used for the Reunions.  

All of the TV Reunion cars, minus John's car, (3) was used again in the the '05 and '07 Dukes Movies.  25 additional Chargers were purchased for the 05/07 movies.  1 of the 25 cars was never painted/built and was only used for parts.  

So lets see...... 23 surviving TV series cars + 3 additional Reunion cars + 24 additional "used" 05/07 Movie cars = a grand total of 50 known surviving WB General Lees.

Justin
"CornDog"

[Ghoste]

Hate on it if you like, but we all know that's primarily what got most of us right here on this very site...

Really?  MOST of us?  I think that is probably what drives the "hate" for the GL.  It isn't the way they boogered up the car, it's the way fans of the show have this bizarre notion that most people who own a 2nd gen Charger do so because of the show.  I honestly respect your devotion to it and without taking away any of the popularity of the program itself, I do not for one second believe it is anywhere nearly as responsible for the number of Chargers on the road today as DOH fans think.

[Mike DC]

           
I agree with Ghoste.  

The popularity of DOH is probably enough to get a couple Chargers restored for every one wrecked by the show.   But it's not the primary reason the car is sought-after.  Not even close.  

I think the entire effect of Hollywood's Charger usage in the last 40 years (not just DOH alone) might have boosted the car's status by 25%.  Maybe less.  The vast majority of the car's popularity is not due to Hollywood.  

 

[WB General Lee]

 I think the winged cars added to the popularity of Chargers. The GL may or may not have brought people to restore Chargers but it didnt hurt. I dont think you could argue that the General Lee its the most popular Charger ever.

[Richard Cranium]

Hate on it if you like, but we all know that's primarily what got most of us right here on this very site...

Really?  MOST of us?  I think that is probably what drives the "hate" for the GL.  It isn't the way they boogered up the car, it's the way fans of the show have this bizarre notion that most people who own a 2nd gen Charger do so because of the show.  I honestly respect your devotion to it and without taking away any of the popularity of the program itself, I do not for one second believe it is anywhere nearly as responsible for the number of Chargers on the road today as DOH fans think.

BINGO, We have a winner!!!   

[c00nhunterjoe]

I think if you are drivinng a general lee then you are an obvious fan, if you charger is not a general lee then I bet you at least know of the show. I love the charger for its lines and curves. I grew up with the dukes and airwolf. I bought a charger to make a general lee because that's the paint I want on my car. I love going to car shows to see what other people have done. You will NEVER hear me harass anyone about the choices they made on their car so please don't harass me about mine.
   I take that back.... if you have aa 69 that is 100% restored to all factory codes for your car, origonal paint, rims and bias ply tires then YOU, and only YOU can ride me about my car. But looking through the avatar pics and photo galleries I would bet that 80 to 90% of dc.com memberss have taken liberties in their restorations.

[Brock Lee]

Hate on it if you like, but we all know that's primarily what got most of us right here on this very site...

Really?  MOST of us?  I think that is probably what drives the "hate" for the GL.  It isn't the way they boogered up the car, it's the way fans of the show have this bizarre notion that most people who own a 2nd gen Charger do so because of the show.  I honestly respect your devotion to it and without taking away any of the popularity of the program itself, I do not for one second believe it is anywhere nearly as responsible for the number of Chargers on the road today as DOH fans think.

AMEN!

[police1]

 

[Darkman]

DOH was not the reason why I bought a Charger. I have been a chrysler nut from the day my dad bought an Aussie valiant in 76. I wanted the Charger but never liked the Aussie Charger as much as the Dodge.

Honestly, the General Lee is responsible for A LOT of people WORLD WIDE knowing about the Charger (case in point: I told a friend I was buying a dodge Charger and received a blank look for a response. When I said it was the "General Lee" car, the lights switched on and he knew what I was talking about). Not as many people know or relate the Charger to Bullit and DMCL as they do to thhe DOH. I never heard of Bullit or DMCL until I came here, but knew about DOH (even had DOH colouring books as a kid)

[Mikesmoparperformance]

WB had 19 cars left over.  They sold 17 to The Dodge Charger Registry (Wayne Wooten) and kept two cars.  One was a close up car and the other was the sound stage car.  Lee 1 was found in GA (20).  #13 (the car mentioned in this thread) was found in North Carolina in the back yard of one of the stunt men (21).  And finally, 2 beat up Chargers that were used in the low budget movie "Gladiator" were found on a lot in California.  Both of these cars were former General Lees purchased from WB after the series was over.  (22 & 23).  There's your 23 TV series cars.  Theres no telling how many other cars might still be out there waiting to be found.

The TV series close up car that WB kept (when they sold the other 17) was repainted and used in "Forever Young" in the early 90's.  Then this car was repainted back into a GL and used in both '97 and '00 TV Reunion movies.  Two more cars were purchased for the TV Reunion movies, one of which I have... and John Schneider's General Lee was leased and used in the Reunions also.  So that makes 1 TV series car and 3 additional cars used for the Reunions. 

All of the TV Reunion cars, minus John's car, (3) was used again in the the '05 and '07 Dukes Movies.  25 additional Chargers were purchased for the 05/07 movies.  1 of the 25 cars was never painted/built and was only used for parts. 

So lets see...... 23 surviving TV series cars + 3 additional Reunion cars + 24 additional "used" 05/07 Movie cars = a grand total of 50 known surviving WB General Lees.

Justin
"CornDog"

Awesome info Thanks!! Amazing how many if you count them all are left over great!