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2011 Dodge Charger SRT8 Revealed

Started by TUFCAT, February 09, 2011, 04:12:12 PM

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66mopar

Wasn't the Superbird considered awful looking by a lot of people back in the day?

The Superbird's styling proved to be a little extreme for 1970 tastes (many customers preferred the regular Road Runner), and as a consequence, many of the 1,920 examples built[3] sat unsold on the back lots of dealerships as late as 1972. Some were converted into 1970 Road Runners to move them off the sales lot. In recent years, however, the Superbird has become quite valuable.

66mopar


UH60L

Quote from: 66mopar on February 11, 2011, 10:40:25 AM
Wasn't the Superbird considered awful looking by a lot of people back in the day?

The Superbird's styling proved to be a little extreme for 1970 tastes (many customers preferred the regular Road Runner), and as a consequence, many of the 1,920 examples built[3] sat unsold on the back lots of dealerships as late as 1972. Some were converted into 1970 Road Runners to move them off the sales lot. In recent years, however, the Superbird has become quite valuable.

The difference is, in 30 years, most of these will have been crushed and turned into 7up cans, and the few remaining will serve as examples of what not to do. (and won't be worth what a Superbird is now worth.(or Daytona for that matter)).

Rustymuscle

Personally, I've been a big supporter of the small steps that have been made to bring the Charger closer to the '99 concept than ever before. But frankly, the current SRT8 fascia and body kit unravels a lot of good faith I had. Sorry, this and the awful misuse of the R/T on the Caravan, Journey and Durango are pretty reprehensible.





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Khyron

Quote from: 66mopar on February 11, 2011, 10:40:25 AM
Wasn't the Superbird considered awful looking by a lot of people back in the day?

The Superbird's styling proved to be a little extreme for 1970 tastes (many customers preferred the regular Road Runner), and as a consequence, many of the 1,920 examples built[3] sat unsold on the back lots of dealerships as late as 1972. Some were converted into 1970 Road Runners to move them off the sales lot. In recent years, however, the Superbird has become quite valuable.

please dont compair this awful looking bag of ass to a superbird ;-)


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BigBlackDodge

Quote from: 66mopar on February 11, 2011, 10:40:25 AM
Wasn't the Superbird considered awful looking by a lot of people back in the day?

The Superbird's styling proved to be a little extreme for 1970 tastes (many customers preferred the regular Road Runner), and as a consequence, many of the 1,920 examples built[3] sat unsold on the back lots of dealerships as late as 1972. Some were converted into 1970 Road Runners to move them off the sales lot. In recent years, however, the Superbird has become quite valuable.


Mopar only cared how the Superbird did at the race track, not how it looked.



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daveco

Wing cars were pure function, The 2011 SRT's function seems to be filtering food from sea water.
R/Tree

Manfred318

Quote from: daveco on February 12, 2011, 07:11:49 PM
Wing cars were pure function, The 2011 SRT's function seems to be filtering food from sea water.
:iagree:

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TK73

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daveco

That car was originally a two door, hastily diced up into a four door at the last minute...
More evidence of a saboteur in the design dept.
R/Tree

TK73

Quote from: daveco on February 12, 2011, 07:22:14 PM
That car was originally a two door, hastily diced up into a four door at the last minute...
More evidence of a saboteur in the design dept.

The concept or production?

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69_500

Personally I like it. Call me weird or whatever but I think it looks good.

TK73

Quote from: daveco on February 12, 2011, 07:22:14 PM
That car was originally a two door, hastily diced up into a four door at the last minute...
More evidence of a saboteur in the design dept.

Missed ya before you logged out.  I will conclude that you are referring to the concept.

In the 12 years since the concept was on the circuit that is the first time I have heard it started out as a 2-door. Unless you have some fairly solid evidence that it was, your statement is incorrect.
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tracpack440

Yes it looks like a plankton eater. You cant fix ugly. You can just make it more fugly :flush:
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pipeliner

I think the Concept,the new Charger and the Superbird are all ugly as hell :icon_smile_big:

daveco

Quote from: TK73 on February 12, 2011, 08:43:41 PM
Quote from: daveco on February 12, 2011, 07:22:14 PM
That car was originally a two door, hastily diced up into a four door at the last minute...
More evidence of a saboteur in the design dept.

Missed ya before you logged out.  I will conclude that you are referring to the concept.

In the 12 years since the concept was on the circuit that is the first time I have heard it started out as a 2-door. Unless you have some fairly solid evidence that it was, your statement is incorrect.

There was an article in AutoWeek Magazine where this was discussed, I'll try to find it. The concept car pictured was converted into a four door, from it's original two door design. This was done when "retro" was in a holding pattern. I am certain this is true.
R/Tree

DustinSimmonds

I don't know, I kinda like the SRT8 for the 2012! I like how they added the 6.4L badge.

chargerjy9

Quote from: TK73 on February 12, 2011, 08:43:41 PM
Quote from: daveco on February 12, 2011, 07:22:14 PM
That car was originally a two door, hastily diced up into a four door at the last minute...
More evidence of a saboteur in the design dept.

Missed ya before you logged out.  I will conclude that you are referring to the concept.

In the 12 years since the concept was on the circuit that is the first time I have heard it started out as a 2-door. Unless you have some fairly solid evidence that it was, your statement is incorrect.
actually, his statement is quite correct. I know. I was there, working, in the Chrysler styling studio, It started out as a two door, but it was based on the old LH (Intrepid) platform (read; front wheel drive) as such, it had to be a 4 door. At the last minute, before it was to go on the show circuit, Design Office threw some black tape lines on it to show it as a 4 door. because it was based on the LH it was never meant to be put in production, as the Daimler guys decided at that time, that direction would be changed to do a rear wheel drive platform that would use many Mercedes components, hence LX (Chrysler 300 et al )
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TK73

1973 Charger : 440cid - 727 - 8.75/3.55


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Bigun426

The Shelby Cobra nose just ain't working on this car. Just seen my first 2011 at the dealership today and that noise looks like a giant zit on pretty face.

Hissing Cobra

I've never liked the re-introduction of the new era of Chargers. To me, Chrysler ruined the name once again. They did it in the '80's with the 2.2 Turbocharged Chargers that resemebled the Fox Bodied Mustangs and they've done it again with the new generation. To me, a Charger MUST have the hideaway headlights, "C" shapes in the doors, pop up gas caps and the Coke Bottled shape. Once they put the four doors on it, they should have called it a Satellite.

That being said, they've done a wonderful job with the new Challengers. I hope they don't ruin the styling of those and turn them into a steroid induced monster like Chevy did with the new Camaro.
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Charger440RDN

As ugly as it is, it would absolutely destroy the Superbird on a track. The engine power and technology is there but the looks are not.

TK73

Quote from: Charger440RDN on February 13, 2011, 11:12:34 PM
As ugly as it is, it would absolutely destroy the Superbird on a track. The engine power and technology is there but the looks are not.

Uh oh, now ya gone and done it...

DUCK!!
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UH60L

Quote from: Charger440RDN on February 13, 2011, 11:12:34 PM
As ugly as it is, it would absolutely destroy the Superbird on a track. The engine power and technology is there but the looks are not.

So, did you read the part where they said the top speed is 175 MPH?

Superbirds were running up at the 200 MPH mark in NASCAR.  They were built for NASCAR tracks, so if your refering to a drag strip, you are quite literally comparing apples to tangerines.

I don't know of any American car that can hit 175 MPH in the quarter, stock from the factory.  I'm wagering that SRT won't either.

Hemidog

It REALLY resembles the new Mitsubishi Lancers, maybe Chrysler still har some ties with them  ;)