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XV motorsports Level II quality good or really bad? what do you think?????

Started by studio57, February 07, 2011, 02:52:45 PM

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studio57

Hi Guys
i got report you that xv motorsports quality ain't as good as the price tag says it should in my a pinion , lot of problems on fittings and upper control arms where twisted a LOT.. they haven't try to fit anything and welding skills on the frame builder is bit better than my 2 year old son...
only compensation was after 5 none reply emails was that they will send me a new arms if i will send the bad ones back first = not fair deal as i live in finland and the shipping cost are expensive and my progress will stop until i get new ones. it was also misssing one bushing, that they did send so it will arrive proxy in week or two. i just fix those problems my self but i really do NOT recommend no one XV Motorsports next time i will get RHS and save money and time !!

what do you think about this?
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

studio57

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572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

studio57

572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

studio57

and they think there is nothing wrong with these ! i really do hope the desing isnt as bad the building is.
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

darrenb811

sheeeez!! :eek2:
sorry to hear that , the workmanship looks awful.

I was always nervous about the XV, RMS or Magnumforce front-ends, so went a different route with my build. :Twocents:
Really hope it all works out.
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525 Hemi
F2 Procharger, EFI, T56 6-Speed Dana 60
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suntech

That did not look good at all Masi!! :rotz: My K member welding looks much better than yours, and it is not bent or anything, but i have not really checked the other parts, maybe i chould take a day off from housebuilding and do that? :scratchchin:
Since we only live once, and all this is not just a dressed rehearsal, but the real thing............ Well, enjoy it!!!!

studio57

Quote from: suntech on February 07, 2011, 06:38:43 PM
That did not look good at all Masi!! :rotz: My K member welding looks much better than yours, and it is not bent or anything, but i have not really checked the other parts, maybe i chould take a day off from housebuilding and do that? :scratchchin:


Reason why i did go with the XV level II too to get the best of the best quality and that did cost me 11k, i didn't mind that i too month of over time as that happens from time to time..but the way they treat people after something goes wrong. i told them that I'm happier if they send me the billet upper arms to compensate these issues and they did offer those for 700dollars ( new ones are 725dollars) i told them that is not fair deal..

Think that they are selling 150k XV chargers and cudas that has this kind of suspension parts + 4k forth of engine and transmission for a C300 5.7l hemi car.

I told them i don't think these are all bad after all they use some factory made parts and they fit pretty good as someone else has done them.
I really do hope the design is better than the building quality i really really do !!
the guys in xv where Scott Landis and Peter Bergman neather didn't see anything wrong on the parts.
If you know some who is thinking of buying one of these please let him know this post first and let him decide after this will he still want this 11k forth of best quality suspension system ever build .
I do hope Rolf that your kit is better build than mine is and yours did have the billet upper arms ! witch might been done better.
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

Supercharged Riot

oh WOW  :o

I was starting to save up for that kit too. 
For 11K, that stuff should all fit SNUG.
Too much money on the line for imperfections.
Thanks for taking the time to post your findings.
and I hope you really got your money's worth and make it work out.

This will definately make me consider alternatives. But I really want a coilover conversion like this.  dang it.

studio57

Quote from: Supercharged Riot on February 08, 2011, 01:42:19 AM
oh WOW  :o

I was starting to save up for that kit too. 
For 11K, that stuff should all fit SNUG.
Too much money on the line for imperfections.
Thanks for taking the time to post your findings.
and I hope you really got your money's worth and make it work out.

This will definately make me consider alternatives. But I really want a coilover conversion like this.  dang it.

what i know now i would go to RMS products ! never heard any bad from them and saw video that  they test assembly everything before shipping.
still I'm hoping that in the end my level II will do the trick, i just needs lot of extra work.
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

Supercharged Riot

Either way, I am still jealous of your new suspension setup.
Ive seen the coilover conversion of RMS, their coilover shocks look smaller than the XV setup.  People need to post video testimonials of their conversions.  Pictures can only show so much.

I hope i see videos of your XV charger performing.  Ive never seen that setup in action for a Charger.  Good luck my friend  :2thumbs:

studio57

yes, before buying this i did lot of rechearts and as this was only one using aluminum parts and using C6 parts. i decide to get this kit, sadly when it arrived it wasn't quite what is was expecting. lets keep out fingers cross that it will be fun to drive and will handle like a beast ! and thank you for your support !

you can check out my progress here http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3837245/1968-dodge-charger
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

NorwayCharger

 :o

Wow, tought that the XV kit was better build than that.
Maybe they got i a new guy working for them and this was his first build  :shruggy:
I have the RMS kit and i am very impressed with the quality of welds etc.
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studio57

Quote from: NorwayCharger on February 09, 2011, 11:20:07 AM
:o

Wow, tought that the XV kit was better build than that.
Maybe they got i a new guy working for them and this was his first build  :shruggy:
I have the RMS kit and i am very impressed with the quality of welds etc.

and it does get better on the rear end.. picture is rearend the upper arm , fits like a retarded has made it !
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

six-tee-nine

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You paid how much??????


I know its far when you're overseas (tell me about it) but reall that went into a box and straight back If you paid only half of what you did i might say OK.....
Greetings from Belgium, the beer country

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darrenb811

that's bad luck Masi, good luck sorting out a speedy resolution  :icon_smile_blackeye:
Darren


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studio57

Quote from: six-tee-nine on February 10, 2011, 02:34:14 PM
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You paid how much??????


I know its far when you're overseas (tell me about it) but reall that went into a box and straight back If you paid only half of what you did i might say OK.....

no that was with out shipping cost , but i did pay for top quality . boxes where un damaged, every part was packed own boxes ... it is just how they build them.
attach is the invoices it is prox 11k
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

studio57

Quote from: darrenb811 on February 10, 2011, 02:38:47 PM
that's bad luck Masi, good luck sorting out a speedy resolution  :icon_smile_blackeye:
Darren



Thanks my friend,
we will do our best ! Good thing is that we do lot better job than those "wanna be pro`s" :) and im grateful that we did first order only one kit as my friends where ready to order two more... one is now going on hotckis suspension kit and other one i think to RMS
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

darrenb811

Quote

Thanks my friend,
we will do our best ! and we do lot better job than those "wanna be pro`s" :) and im thank full that we did first order only one kit as my friends where ready to order two more... one is now going on hotckis suspension kit and other one i think to rhs

I have no doubt you will!

I did a massive amount of research in the suspension options & found that most of the Motorcross & racing guys, in their experience confirmed the difference between a well set up torsion bar system would match any of the aftermarket systems.
If you're going for a certain look the XV, RMS or Magnumforce will obviously give it, and IMO the biggest benefit is additional room, andof the aftermarket systems the consensus view is that the RMS is the best, & most proven. The magnum force system puts the front suspension loads through the shock towers (which are not designed to handle the load ~torsion bars carry the load via the trans-crossmember ~ have heard stories of panels & doors going out of alignment etc.).

Each to their own choice, & as cheeky as it sounds I reckon the setup I have put together will spank any other setup on the track. Of course I Haven't heard of a complete Hotchkis setup ...other than the parts they make to modify the OEM system, being UCA's, Tie-rods, sway bars (FFI sway bar is superior).

Good luck with positive outcome from XV, I hope they make good on their setup for you.



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68 Charger R/T
525 Hemi
F2 Procharger, EFI, T56 6-Speed Dana 60
Grocery Getter

Rolling_Thunder

after looking at the numerous XV magazine articles I decided I would NEVER let them build me a car and I would never use their suspension set up...    too much money for too little return. 

Look at the cars they sell for $150-200K    The undercarriage is horrible, AC is routed cheesy, Electrical routing is horrible, and overall just not a $150K car...   
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2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

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studio57

Quote from: darrenb811 on February 10, 2011, 03:12:50 PM
Quote

Thanks my friend,
we will do our best ! and we do lot better job than those "wanna be pro`s" :) and im thank full that we did first order only one kit as my friends where ready to order two more... one is now going on hotckis suspension kit and other one i think to rhs

I have no doubt you will!

I did a massive amount of research in the suspension options & found that most of the Motorcross & racing guys, in their experience confirmed the difference between a well set up torsion bar system would match any of the aftermarket systems.
If you're going for a certain look the XV, RMS or Magnumforce will obviously give it, and IMO the biggest benefit is additional room, andof the aftermarket systems the consensus view is that the RMS is the best, & most proven. The magnum force system puts the front suspension loads through the shock towers (which are not designed to handle the load ~torsion bars carry the load via the trans-crossmember ~ have heard stories of panels & doors going out of alignment etc.).

Each to their own choice, & as cheeky as it sounds I reckon the setup I have put together will spank any other setup on the track. Of course I Haven't heard of a complete Hotchkis setup ...other than the parts they make to modify the OEM system, being UCA's, Tie-rods, sway bars (FFI sway bar is superior).

Good luck with positive outcome from XV, I hope they make good on their setup for you.






i found this today. does not look good, the upper arm on XV level II brokes.
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

Troy

That's Bill Howell's car.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,48982.0.html

I read the Hot Rod article but now I can't remember the whole story but it was the UCA.


Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

studio57

Quote from: Troy on February 11, 2011, 10:25:25 AM
That's Bill Howell's car.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,48982.0.html

I read the Hot Rod article but now I can't remember the whole story but it was the UCA.


Troy


i got to say that is one nice car !
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

Bill Howell

Wow, where do I start?
Yes, sadly, that was my car at the 2009 Optima Ultimate Streetcar Challenge. I had driven the car all the way from Pigeon Forge to SEMA, then to OUSCI, raced on the road course, autocrosssed and this was my final Speed/Stop challenge. UCA broke welds in two places. I was more than pissed and had to trailer the car home since it not only broke the control arm that we did get repaired but bent an original, virgin fender and bent the lower ball joint to the point the alignment was trashed.
I called XV the next Monday, while I was on the way home and I must say the New UCAs, their "Upgrades" were at my house before I got home. These were billet and much better design. My opinion was and still is, of all the cars they ever sold a frontend suspension to, they should have known I would be the one guy that would actually stress test the parts to the max and surely they knew I would break the original design. They sent the replacements and a return for the old ones. However, never offered to fix the fender or see how things went with the repairs. So, I am out the repair cost on the fender and the ball joint, plus the aggravation of the whole ordeal. I called and left messages for the owner to call three times about the damage, and to this day have never gotten that call returned. I figured if that is the way they do business, I would mark it up as experience. Sometimes it isn't the sale, it is the service after the sale that really counts to get future business and referrals. I am not bragging here, but I did put 14K miles on this car last year, raced it all over the country and saw alot of folks asking about the frontend and how I liked it and the company. I had to tell them exactly what I have said here, you have to draw your own conclusions on how you spend your hard earned money.
I will say this, I am very happy with the frontend in general, other than the weak parts. The geometry is great and the car is totally different than any Mopar I have ever driven. Are their parts worth the extra cost over other options out there? Probably not, but I am very satisfied with the performance of my car. The only other problem I have had, and remember, 14K miles and several of those on road courses and autocrosses, WAO, and way too fast into corners, turns, etc. I did wear out the orignal bearing/hub assembly on both sides, they got to the point they were clicking very bad and at Gingerman, caused brake knockback and I ended up plowing through the grass and dirt sideways at 90+mph, not fun I promise. I upgraded to the new ZR1 hubs, which are much bigger and stronger. I think the factory corvette hubs are just not strong enough when you add the additional 1500 or so pounds a 1972 charger weights over a stock C6. Granted, most everyone that puts a new suspension under their car will never, ever stress test it like I have done, but I am just saying, if you do, go ahead and put the best parts you can on the car, you will be glad you did in the long run.

I have never dissed a company in open forum and hope this doesn't come across as negative, however, it is absolutely what has happened with my car. I have been asked here and other places by pm to say something so here is what happened.
Bill Howell

Brads70


darrenb811

Quote.... I think the factory corvette hubs are just not strong enough when you add the additional 1500 or so pounds a 1972 charger weights over a stock C6. Granted, most everyone that puts a new suspension under their car will never, ever stress test it like I have done, but I am just saying, if you do, go ahead and put the best parts you can on the car, you will be glad you did in the long run...


..that sums up my thoughts on the XV systems C6 is a lightweight to a fully loaded B Body, surely must effect the entire setup IMO, especially if you're after continuous duty and want reliability. :Twocents:
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525 Hemi
F2 Procharger, EFI, T56 6-Speed Dana 60
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studio57

Quote from: Bill Howell on February 11, 2011, 05:57:13 PM
Wow, where do I start?
Yes, sadly, that was my car at the 2009 Optima Ultimate Streetcar Challenge. I had driven the car all the way from Pigeon Forge to SEMA, then to OUSCI, raced on the road course, autocrosssed and this was my final Speed/Stop challenge. UCA broke welds in two places. I was more than pissed and had to trailer the car home since it not only broke the control arm that we did get repaired but bent an original, virgin fender and bent the lower ball joint to the point the alignment was trashed.
I called XV the next Monday, while I was on the way home and I must say the New UCAs, their "Upgrades" were at my house before I got home. These were billet and much better design. My opinion was and still is, of all the cars they ever sold a frontend suspension to, they should have known I would be the one guy that would actually stress test the parts to the max and surely they knew I would break the original design. They sent the replacements and a return for the old ones. However, never offered to fix the fender or see how things went with the repairs. So, I am out the repair cost on the fender and the ball joint, plus the aggravation of the whole ordeal. I called and left messages for the owner to call three times about the damage, and to this day have never gotten that call returned. I figured if that is the way they do business, I would mark it up as experience. Sometimes it isn't the sale, it is the service after the sale that really counts to get future business and referrals. I am not bragging here, but I did put 14K miles on this car last year, raced it all over the country and saw alot of folks asking about the frontend and how I liked it and the company. I had to tell them exactly what I have said here, you have to draw your own conclusions on how you spend your hard earned money.
I will say this, I am very happy with the frontend in general, other than the weak parts. The geometry is great and the car is totally different than any Mopar I have ever driven. Are their parts worth the extra cost over other options out there? Probably not, but I am very satisfied with the performance of my car. The only other problem I have had, and remember, 14K miles and several of those on road courses and autocrosses, WAO, and way too fast into corners, turns, etc. I did wear out the orignal bearing/hub assembly on both sides, they got to the point they were clicking very bad and at Gingerman, caused brake knockback and I ended up plowing through the grass and dirt sideways at 90+mph, not fun I promise. I upgraded to the new ZR1 hubs, which are much bigger and stronger. I think the factory corvette hubs are just not strong enough when you add the additional 1500 or so pounds a 1972 charger weights over a stock C6. Granted, most everyone that puts a new suspension under their car will never, ever stress test it like I have done, but I am just saying, if you do, go ahead and put the best parts you can on the car, you will be glad you did in the long run.

I have never dissed a company in open forum and hope this doesn't come across as negative, however, it is absolutely what has happened with my car. I have been asked here and other places by pm to say something so here is what happened.
thanks for your reply Bill, i thought you worked at XV but not that i read your opinion about the company i see you don't. your car looks fantastic . did your kit look as bad as mine?
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

Bill Howell

No, my kit was pretty good, fit and finish. It fit the car unibody better than your pictures show also. The rear suspension wasn't even close, but I knew it was not designed for a 72 when I bought it. We basically used the parts and redesigned everything out back. My motor, 6.4 crate motor fit exactly correct and their oil pan, headers were perfect. Actually the headers are the best set of headers I have ever owned, just fall into place and no issues at all. The pita was they did not offer a pickup tube at the time, so I had a high dollar oit pan and had to make the fricken pick up tube. Hopefully, that is not an issue now. I did not buy their brake setup since I have connections with brake companies so not sure about their setups. Plumbing the rack was tedious and required some tweaks but that is hotrodding, nothing is ever bolton.
Bill Howell

suntech

This is not fun to hear and see at all Guys! I have the XV front and rear sitting in my garage waiting for me to have time to start on my car. Mine looks also a lot better than the one Masi got, so the first thing i was thinking when i saw the pictures of his, was that here must be a new guy at work with the TIG welder. Mine was made 2,5 years ago, and i guess it was the first set that was sold to Europe. Then it got stuck in customs for 2 years!! ( long story). Ayways have been planning to do like Bill all the time, just to use the lower arms and shocks, to make my my own setup for the rear. I am going 4 link. I have also ordered the billet UCA´s before i heard of these problems, and i am going to get the billet spindles/uprights from LG motorsports, with uprgraded bearings/hubs. These spindles also drop the car 1 inch, and was the main reason for my search for them. I see now that I was a little ahead of the game, without even knowing it.
The bearings are one thing, but with Bill´s UCA failure, i think the right thing to do would have been to contact all customers with a warning, and offer to send a set of the upgraded billet ones, and stop selling the style that broke.  :Twocents:  But that is just my opinion :scratchchin:
Since we only live once, and all this is not just a dressed rehearsal, but the real thing............ Well, enjoy it!!!!

Bill Howell

Quote from: suntech on February 12, 2011, 04:20:41 AM

The bearings are one thing, but with Bill´s UCA failure, i think the right thing to do would have been to contact all customers with a warning, and offer to send a set of the upgraded billet ones, and stop selling the style that broke.  :Twocents:  But that is just my opinion :scratchchin:

You are 100% correct and to me this is the rub. If you have a part that is even questionable, why would you sell it and take if nothing else the liability risk? Substandard parts are unacceptable at any price, much less top tier money. Bearings, yes you are right, are probably a non issue with 99% of the people, but my UCA failure was under hard braking,  nothing more than you would do in a panic stop. Why risk your companies reputation over something like this is silly to me.
Bill Howell

Supercharged Riot

As a prospective customer...

After all that's said and done.  personallly, I will likely steer my business away from them and proably use my saved money on some other suspension upgrade like RMS' Alterkation setup.
If I dont hear anything better about their customer service, I'd rather spend my hard earned money and gamble with someone else.


Mike DC

          
RMS seems to have by far the best rep in the area of aftermarket suspensions.

XV's engineering still looks great on paper IMHO.  But with that quality, and that price?  Umm, no.  




The bearings giving out . . . well, I can forgive them for not seeing that coming.  They had 3000-lb Challengers on the brain when they engineered that setup.  And frankly, if I had been designing the setup I would also have assumed that a modern 'Vette wheel bearing assembly would be up for the job too.  Modern Vettes aren't THAT lightweight and the OEMs typically build that kind of stuff with a lot of safety margin.


But there isn't any excuse for breaking control arms.  If they're gonna sell custom-built parts like UCAs then they shouldn't be delivering something anywhere near that close to the edge of its strength limits.  If they can't do OEM-quality durability testing on their pieces then it's their problem to always err on the side of too strong.  Real cars hit curbs and potholes.    


studio57

did send them email today about this post, soon i think we will get some replays hopefully they now see  problems on there building quality
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

Supercharged Riot

so hows the project commin along?  get all your issues sorted out yet?

studio57

Quote from: Supercharged Riot on February 20, 2011, 12:55:27 PM
so hows the project commin along?  get all your issues sorted out yet?

they did contact me in Friday, the big chef did talk to me first then Peter. There where again some parts missing from the rear end, they did ship them in sameday but as always it means we have to wait week on those so we will make them our self to save time. i did suggest them to the double check everything in future.
They did offer me those billet uppers arms for 300dollars now witch is bit better offer than the original one as it was 700dollars (retail 725dollars) but i don't think that is a fair offer as we have done lot of extra labor because of missing parts and particle bad building quality.
Now the rear end is almost done, and same on the front.. but the front upper arms still the issue as those where so twisted that we did have to warm those up and regarding to them they cant handle that. we need to make my car ready for Easter on Shows here in Finland and there is lot of to do, make room to the tci 6x speed tranny, build the aluminium Hemi paint the parts, etc etc etc etc.....

in the picture you can see that we need to short the panhard tube a bit and bend it so it would not be attach to dana`s differential cover
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

studio57

still waiting the promised billet upper arms from XV motorports... now we will not get it ready to the shows... well there is allways a next year. it should not take this long to make those.
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

RallyeMike

Ouch. Just ran across this for the first time.

Besides not wanting to throw away a bunch of money, one of my fears was the quality and engineering of this stuff. Hopefully these are not common problems and the results of these issues leads to improvement. If one of the upper control arms broke on me like it did on Bill's car I'd be fortunate to survive.

Good luck. I hope you end up happy with it in the end.



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darrenb811

Quote from: studio57 on April 23, 2011, 10:15:47 AM
still waiting the promised billet upper arms from XV motorports... now we will not get it ready to the shows... well there is allways a next year. it should not take this long to make those.
sorry to hear about this. I can empathise with you building a car outside the US., & it seems like you've had a bad run of luck. I hope it works out for you soon. cheers, Darren
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studio57

Thanks Man...over 2 months waiting and still nothing.... front end almost done but the billet upper arms not!!.. i would not recommend to buy anything from those assholes..how hard can it be to make 2 upper arms... i really really really hope the desing is way better than the building quality !!!

lot of progress done.. on the car ,
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3837245/1968-dodge-charger
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

Rolling_Thunder

Man - if It wasnt already on the car I would just send the stuff back for a full refund...    2 months is unacceptable after problems with THEIR products...     once they get your money it seems they don't care about you...    sounds like some other companies i could name...     
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Patronus

I know to each his own, but why the '69 tail stripe?
2 months!!? No way am I running anything from XV, never!  :flame:
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'69 Charger 383 "Luci"
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studio57

Quote from: Patronus on May 10, 2011, 09:16:40 AM
I know to each his own, but why the '69 tail stripe?
2 months!!? No way am I running anything from XV, never!  :flame:


i like those 69 stripes more and I'm planning to use 69 tail lights as well in future as those i look better to my eyes.
i would not go to XV today if i could go back to last October.

engine partment almost done  :2thumbs:
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

Mr.Woolery

Quote from: Rolling_Thunder on May 08, 2011, 03:32:32 PM
Man - if It wasnt already on the car I would just send the stuff back for a full refund...    2 months is unacceptable after problems with THEIR products...    once they get your money it seems they don't care about you...    sounds like some other companies i could name...     

(I bolded part of the quote)
That's been my experience, too.  I've had some chassis stiffening parts on order from them for my '71 since last June.  They kept telling me "2-3 weeks" for months, then "we'll get to it, eventually".

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Rolling_Thunder

1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip

Rolling_Thunder

Quote from: Mr.Woolery on May 11, 2011, 11:29:30 AM
Quote from: Rolling_Thunder on May 08, 2011, 03:32:32 PM
Man - if It wasnt already on the car I would just send the stuff back for a full refund...    2 months is unacceptable after problems with THEIR products...    once they get your money it seems they don't care about you...    sounds like some other companies i could name...     

(I bolded part of the quote)
That's been my experience, too.  I've had some chassis stiffening parts on order from them for my '71 since last June.  They kept telling me "2-3 weeks" for months, then "we'll get to it, eventually".

RUN. AWAY.

I ordered their body stiffening stuff years ago and got it within a week -    Dude - its been almost a year ?  Ask for a refund and make the stuff yourself - its not rocket science...    their stuff requires modifications to fit anyway....   at least I had to alter the stuff I got to fit my car (variance in production back then)
1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip

studio57

the upper billet arms are finally now in custom`s so hopefully i get them early next week.. maybe two more weeks and i will let you guys know how it handles..
here is few custom parts we have done  :drool5:
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

tan top

Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

sixty8charger

Jayson

studio57

some progress... next week might be the first  start up and test drive ...  :2thumbs:
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

sixty8charger

is that gauge bezel the original one painted? or a custom billet piece?  That looks amazing! (if its paint, what did you use?)
Jayson

studio57

Quote from: sixty8charger on June 15, 2011, 11:53:36 AM
is that gauge bezel the original one painted? or a custom billet piece?  That looks amazing! (if its paint, what did you use?)

thanks.
i will have new musclecar series autometers inside the original surface. that is a paint on the bezel but you need to have the cosmichrome system and be pro-paintshop owner to get quality finish.  i have friend who does it for living.
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

sixty8charger

Always good to have a friend like that!  :2thumbs: looking forward to seeing the finished product (Gauges and bezel) :cheers:

(I have a looooooonnnngg way to go until I am at that part.)
Jayson

studio57

572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

xpbprox

Very Nice! What kind of power steering pump is that? Upgraded?

studio57

572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

Musicman

Good to see that everything has finally come together for you  :2thumbs:

When's the first run on rubber going to happen :popcrn:

studio57

Quote from: Musicman on July 28, 2011, 09:30:11 AM
Good to see that everything has finally come together for you  :2thumbs:

When's the first run on rubber going to happen :popcrn:

Thanks :) i can wait eather
some new photos of the engine and interior parts.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3837245/1968-dodge-charger/page-19

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3837245/1968-dodge-charger/page-18

hopefully we manage to get to dyno in weekend. i will post new videos if we do  :thumb:
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

WHITE AND RED 69

1969 Dodge Charger R/T
2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee 75th edition
1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee
1972 Plymouth Duster

studio57

first test drive done, still few things to before it is ready, some paint fixing, dyno, efi adjustments, wheel agle adjustments..etc

more pictures here http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3837245/1968-dodge-charger/page-19
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

Supercharged Riot

Hey man your cluster gauges are amazing!
Where did you get them?

studio57

Quote from: Supercharged Riot on August 28, 2011, 11:46:04 AM
Hey man your cluster gauges are amazing!
Where did you get them?

those are autometer musclecar series gauges
Last night we where finally in dyno, engine is still fresh so we start doing basic maps. Later we will try some more and get some numbers.
TCI 6X seems to work nicely, 60mph at 1800rpm
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

surmanajaja

so how does it drive? I remember you were asking about caster/camber etc. long time ago on FInnish site, od, right? so is the vet suspension so much better that its worth the money, in your opinion`?


studio57

Quote from: surmanajaja on August 28, 2011, 01:18:21 PM
so how does it drive? I remember you were asking about caster/camber etc. long time ago on FInnish site, od, right? so is the vet suspension so much better that its worth the money, in your opinion`?



we havent done the angle adjustments yet so i have no idea how it handles and the car is not registered yet.. i will keep you posted when we get to drive it at last.
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

studio57

572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

studio57

i have now driven the car for two days and i have to say that level II suspension feels fantastic even the xv support&quality did had problems.
I got to say now im happy that the car is finally done.. well yes it still needs some work but i can already enjoy this quality ride.  :2thumbs:
i will post new pictures of the car show and road trip im doing end of the week... total 650miles.
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

suntech

Since we only live once, and all this is not just a dressed rehearsal, but the real thing............ Well, enjoy it!!!!

sixty8charger

Jayson

studio57

572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

Musicman

Where's the video of the Charger charging down the back roads, winding through the corners :lol:

studio57

Quote from: Musicman on September 26, 2011, 12:27:14 PM
Where's the video of the Charger charging down the back roads, winding through the corners :lol:

that will be my next video but the car was ready to drive last sunday and went back to the paint show for the show. now im tuning the efi and tranny hopefully the snow dont start before those are done :)
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

H82go55

I had the same problem with my levelII kit. You couldn't get the shaft through the upper control arms. Also the rear lower shock mounts were at the wrong angle, upper trailing arm mount was about 1/4 inch too narrow, engine won't fit the K member, wrong parts shipped, brakes are nothing more than stock GM parts you get from Car Quest. WAY overpriced. And above all customer service ir THE worst I've ever seen, ANYWHERE!!!

Supercharged Riot

Do you think this will be a problem still?  I looked at their website and they say they sell these kits pre-assembled now?

Studio57, you seemed o have worked all the problems out. Did XVMotorsports send you the correct parts or did you have to fix them yourself?

Would you still recommend them over the Alteration or CAPautoproduct?

Id like to see more install pictures if you got em. I checked you cardomain page but I was hoping to see more install pics of the suspension setup.

studio57

Quote from: Supercharged Riot on November 26, 2011, 05:20:18 PM
Do you think this will be a problem still?  I looked at their website and they say they sell these kits pre-assembled now?

Studio57, you seemed o have worked all the problems out. Did XVMotorsports send you the correct parts or did you have to fix them yourself?

Would you still recommend them over the Alteration or CAPautoproduct?

Id like to see more install pictures if you got em. I checked you cardomain page but I was hoping to see more install pics of the suspension setup.

My XV setup handles nice now but i would now go to RMS http://www.reillymotorsports.com/store/product.php?productid=16183&cat=269&page=1
most of the missing/badly made parts we made our self as we didn't have time to wait new ones, XV-support sucks big big time, first they didn't even "see" any problems on my pictures but when i did post these add to different forums they woke up..

XV level II is not worth the battle.

BTW i did get XV seatbelts for B-bodys and they are basic supermarket belts with the stickier logo on top of other brands logo with x10 price tag.
those guys say they build highend quality but the don't .

i have tons of pictures if you want i can send those to your email.
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

Rolling_Thunder

Sorry to hear about all the problems Studio ---        but at least your battle is over.  :2thumbs:
1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip

studio57

Quote from: Rolling_Thunder on December 04, 2011, 01:32:33 PM
Sorry to hear about all the problems Studio ---        but at least your battle is over.  :2thumbs:

yep.. I'm gonna move the rear end 7/8" back and customise the fuel tank to get bit better look. also I'm adding Kenne Bell 4.2litre twin screw supercharger to it , it can handle 1200hp and im hoping to get bit less  :rofl:
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.

Rolling_Thunder

1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip

studio57

Quote from: Rolling_Thunder on December 05, 2011, 12:20:40 AM
nice -  custom intake for the twin screw?   

we will make one using bds- blower intake, i will fit underhood and still have original look under hood
572 Aluminum Hemi + 6speed autom. 1968 Charger XV-motorsports Level II suspension.