How fast do you think the plow truck was going!

[resq302]

Well, after hearing the towns plow truck go by yesterday with the snow and ice weve had, I decide to go out and clean up the driveway only to find this!!!!!

[resq302]

Now mind you I complained about the speed they were plowing at the last storm.  Mind you my truck is easily back at least 5 feet from the roadway in our driveway and the height to the top of the hood on my 2007 F150 4x4 is easily 3 feet tall as well.

[resq302]

And then I see this!!!!!

[resq302]

And here is the culprit I think. 

[resq302]

Im still awaiting a call back from the town superintendant from the DPW to see what they are going to do about the damage.  Actually from what I can see right now with out getting my truck washed, the only damage is the license plate cover.  My main concern is that my 4 yr old daughter likes to help me shovel and could have gotten hit with that chunk of ice that did the damage to my car.

[Dans 68]

20 mph? 

Dan

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Brian, keep the 4 year old shoveling in the back yard....if you hear the plow coming...move!

Could have been worse...this could have been your truck! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt_r-jO3lKE

[resq302]

yeh i saw that one on TV.   

[PocketThunder]

i think they average 25 mph around here.  It depends on the depth of the snow and how many mail boxes they want to take out.  And if there is 1" of snow on the road then i assume your truck was going even faster.   

[jb666]

Brian, keep the 4 year old shoveling in the back yard....if you hear the plow coming...move!

Could have been worse...this could have been your truck! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt_r-jO3lKE

WHOAH!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah, you are right, I guess it could always be worse 

[ITSA426]

I live in a fairly rural area and the plows frequently take off mailboxes with the snow.  They come by pretty fast.  In the suburbs they occasionally tear up lawns pushing snow off the streets.  So far I don't know of anybody that's been reimbursed for damage done by them.  Good luck.

[69bronzeT5]

The plows around here go kind of fast but not fast enough to blast snow that far....he must of been going pretty good....

[Shakey]

My goodness, I can't believe what I am seeing....you drive a Ford Brian?   

[bill440rt]

Brian, keep the 4 year old shoveling in the back yard....if you hear the plow coming...move!

Could have been worse...this could have been your truck! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt_r-jO3lKE

Give it a good wash, assess the damage. Might be kinda hard to prove stone chips, though. Chances are, other than the license cover, it's probably OK.
But, you have a 4-year old that likes to help shovel snow??     That's great!

[1BAD68]

Is that a plastic license plate cover?
No offense but are you really that concerned about recouping 7 dollars from the DPW?
Be thankfull your 4 year old wasn't there, there's bound to be chunks of ice in winter.

[resq302]

Is that a plastic license plate cover?
No offense but are you really that concerned about recouping 7 dollars from the DPW?
Be thankfull your 4 year old wasn't there, there's bound to be chunks of ice in winter.

Thats exactly my point.  I really could care less about my license plate cover.  Its the whole could have thing since there are multiple families that have young children.  Hell, my neighbor has a kindergardener who sleigh rides down almost to the road.  What if he was sledding and they came by?  It also annoys me that this is not the first time that they have been told about them speeding.

[1BAD68]

Most of those drivers can understand when they enter a residential neighborhood to slow it down because kids are bound to be out playing.
But there's always a driver that just wants to get done with no regard to children or property.
I would keep complaining to them, eventually they'll get it.

[elacruze]

There's a simple solution-

Raise taxes enough to double the plow team, then they can run at 1/2 speed.

Or do what Detroit does, just don't plow the neighborhoods that are so poor they have no cars anyway.

[resq302]

There's a simple solution-

Raise taxes enough to double the plow team, then they can run at 1/2 speed.

Or do what Detroit does, just don't plow the neighborhoods that are so poor they have no cars anyway.

Seriously?!?!?  Thats your response???   My taxes are high enough living in Passiac County, NJ already.  And what would hiring more plow trucks do?  Maybe cut down on the amount of over time but it still wont effect on what proper speed they should be plowing.  Plows are made for pushing, not snow blowing.

[elacruze]

There's a simple solution-

Raise taxes enough to double the plow team, then they can run at 1/2 speed.

Or do what Detroit does, just don't plow the neighborhoods that are so poor they have no cars anyway.

Seriously?!?!?  Thats your response???   My taxes are high enough living in Passiac County, NJ already.  And what would hiring more plow trucks do?  Maybe cut down on the amount of over time but it still wont effect on what proper speed they should be plowing.  Plows are made for

So who's neighborhood should remain unplowed so they can drive below the speed limit in yours?

[resq302]

There's a simple solution-

Raise taxes enough to double the plow team, then they can run at 1/2 speed.

Or do what Detroit does, just don't plow the neighborhoods that are so poor they have no cars anyway.

Seriously?!?!?  Thats your response???   My taxes are high enough living in Passiac County, NJ already.  And what would hiring more plow trucks do?  Maybe cut down on the amount of over time but it still wont effect on what proper speed they should be plowing.  Plows are made for

So who's neighborhood should remain unplowed so they can drive below the speed limit in yours?

I never said anyones neighborhood should go unplowed.  All I am saying and asking is that whoever is the culprit should plow with some common sense.  Do you drive 65 miles per hour on a highway that is posted 65 mph when it is covered in snow or ice?  I sure don't.  Why?  Cause its not safe!  By your thinking you are also similarly saying a mail carrier can speed along and potentially get into an accident and hit someone just so everyone can get their mail?  Regardless of how long it takes them, they have a job to do and to do it safely!  When I drive the fire truck for my volunteer fire department, I don't go speeding along because "I have to get there fast cause I have all these lights and sirens and I'm needed" attitude.  I respond safely, and yes, I do STOP at all red traffic lights because the law says to.  I then proceed with caution through the intersection ONLY when the right of way is yielded to me.  I don't do anyone any good by getting into an accident and not having the fire apparatus get to the scene of the fire.

Again, plain and simple..... COMMON SENSE!!!!!!

[elacruze]

Common sense would suggest that you move your family to a safe area when you hear the plow coming.

Thanks for the Straw Men and Red Herrings.

If you could, equate for me running a snowplow in a 25mph area and driving a car in a 65mph area while snowing.
If you could, equate for me the average man-hours worked per shift by a plow driver and a fireman.
If you could, equate for me similarities between plow trucks and fire trucks, other than that they both use tax monies.

Maybe you could take a roadmap of the district, add up the combined mileage of all the streets, calculate that with the posted speed limits and come up with the theoretical man-hours it takes to plow every street. Then ask the department how many trucks they have, how many drivers, and how much snow must fall before they must plow.

Perhaps a visit to the city council meeting to discuss plowing depth and frequency is in order.

[resq302]

Common sense would suggest that you move your family to a safe area when you hear the plow coming.

Thanks for the Straw Men and Red Herrings.

If you could, equate for me running a snowplow in a 25mph area and driving a car in a 65mph area while snowing. would you operate a vehicle on icy or snowy roads with a large sharp edged piece of steel in a wreckless or unsafe matter???
If you could, equate for me the average man-hours worked per shift by a plow driver and a fireman. TOO MANY VARIABLES
If you could, equate for me similarities between plow trucks and fire trucks, other than that they both use tax monies. Simple! BOTH MUST BE OPERATED IN A SAFE MANNER!!!!

Maybe you could take a roadmap of the district, add up the combined mileage of all the streets, calculate that with the posted speed limits and come up with the theoretical man-hours it takes to plow every street. Then ask the department how many trucks they have, how many drivers, and how much snow must fall before they must plow.

Perhaps a visit to the city council meeting to discuss plowing depth and frequency is in order.

Your responses are above in bold.  The only thing I can figure out is that: A) you are not a parent of a child, therefore don't care what happens to other peoples children  B) you have a blatant disregard for the safety of others, and C)work up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.

[tan top]

crikey   that chunk of ice  was well dangerous could of hit anyone walking down the street 
check this video out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFitZ77sTJQ&feature=related

[PocketThunder]

crikey   that chunk of ice  was well dangerous could of hit anyone walking down the street 
check this video out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFitZ77sTJQ&feature=related

It pays to have garage parking!!    

[resq302]

Certainly an eye opener.  Imagine how much more damage could have been done if the plow truck was driving a lot faster.  The car could have possibly been thrown or pushed up onto the sidewalk and hit the person walking depending on how close the car is in relation to the pedestrian.

Thank you for posting that Tan Top as that reiterates my rationale for operating stuff in a safe manner.  Granted, accidents happen.  However, taking out 11 cars?!?!?!? 

[Troy]

Anything important of mine is 50' from the road. However, I parked at the top of the driveway once because I knew I wouldn't have time to shovel before going to work and I had so much junk covering my car that it would have made more sense to shovel. Even cars driving down my road throw slush 10-15' because we have a slight dip in front of the house.

I doubt you'll see a penny for your damages.

I think plow drivers go as quickly as they can - the less snow on the ground the faster they go. The reason is because someone, somewhere will still complain that their roads aren't clear even after road crews have worked 20 hours straight. The plow drivers have no idea what's under the snow or what part of the roadway may come loose as they go by. The whole point of the plow is to "throw" the snow so it is sufficiently far from the road. If you're parked next to it (or standing there) you're going to get hit or buried.

I'd never have kids anywhere near an icy/slushy/snowy road - plows or not. That's one reason why I live in the Midwest - so I'm not squeezed into a tiny lot with no yard, no grass, and nowhere to park.

Troy

[451-74Charger]

Well, if you do complain, dont be suprised when you get cited for having a cover over your plate.
I know in all the states around Cincinnati, it is illegal to cover your plate, even if it is clear plastic. (just dont ask how i know  )

[Old Moparz]

Next time you're at the mall, snag a mannequin before you leave. Have one of your kids help you make a sign, kids love to make signs, & before the next snow storm, prop the mannequin up in the driveway with the sign.

It should slow them down. 

[resq302]

   Thanks Bob, I needed that today.   

[Troy]

Visuals...

In the first one you can tell it's picking up less than 1".

Troy

[resq302]

Troy, Id like to know how fast they were going.  In the first pic, that is a high curl highway plow which is meant to do just that, throw snow up and over stuff (meant for highway plowing).  The plow trucks around here are just standard plows with the bigger trucks having an added piece to help curl the snow back over in front of it and not off to the side.

[charger490]

i have plowed snow and try not to hit mail boxs BUT we always have 1or two compliners that we plow snow into there driveway.i had one guy that had a gun pointed at me when i came down the road so i just pulled farther away from his drive way so he had to shovel more to get out of the driveway.two weeks later we were going by his place agian.we had a good two feet of snow and there were two of of us plowing that night. i told the other driver to hold up two or three min. while i went over on the other side of the road and brought all that snow over on the homeowners driveway and than i told the other plow driver to come down as fast as he could . snow was up to the top of his garage door.LOL

[oldgold69]

years ago at one shopping centers we plow. they used to abandon cars in the lot this a 80s mustang was there all winter we plowed around it a bunch of times one night i was plowing by it and someone must have been rifling through the car.  i went by one time the snow opened the door and filled the interior. next time by the other way i shut the door with the snow  i always wondered what became of that car

[472 R/T SE]

I think that going a certain speed helps to throw the snow out of the way versus just puttin' along.

That doesn't make it right, just trying to think about it from the driver's point of view.

[Steve P.]

It sucks that damage was caused by the plow, but I can tell you that there are many reasons for fast plowing. For the guy parked on the side of the road it throws the snow far and broken up. This is much better than the hard packed berm a slow plow leaves you to have to dig out.

Side story: I plowed commercially in Rochester, NY for some years. We plowed for a grocery chain called WEGMANS. One year when the first few warm days of spring hit we got a call from one of the stores managers saying there was a TOYOTA revealing itself in one of our mountains of snow. It was quite high in the snow mountain so we figured our loader driver must have put it there... 

[resq302]

I think that going a certain speed helps to throw the snow out of the way versus just puttin' along.

That doesn't make it right, just trying to think about it from the driver's point of view.

I agree.  Across the street from my house is a long stretch of 40 acres of woods.  Since there is no chance of damage or injury plowing like that on the opposite side of street, I can see them plowing like that.  Not when there people or property around though.