stolen hemi charger

[bullit68]

i've been reading the thread on the orange hemi charger forsale in san francisco.that car was stolen!it belongs to brad bailey of las vegas.hes owned the car since 74 and recently got it from storage on his dads estate.he advertised it forsale and this scumbag who has a bodyshop contacted him.they made a deal for him to clean up and detail the car and bring it to barrett jackson for auction then split the profits.upon receiving the car the dirtbag applied for a california title to acquire the car.he held it for ransom against brad stating that a lot of money was owed for all the repairs.he used a warehousemans lein.brad doesn't have the money to take him to court so therefore has lost his car.this is very sad.i've also been told that the seller will only take cash to dodge any irs implications.good luck bringing 50k plus in cash to south san fran.brad did try to retreave the car only to be met by 15+ bandana wearing mexicans.i hope this piece of sh*t gets what he deserves.incidently the car is real,numbers engine,never had any rust or accidents,been in storage since the early 70's and has 23k original miles.brad has the fender tag and build sheet at his dads property.

[AirborneSilva]

>>>>>>>>>>brad did try to retreave the car only to be met by 15+ bandana wearing mexicans<<<<<<<<<<<<

Doing jobs that Americans wont do 

Sorry to hear about your friends Charger, I hope he gets some justice 

[elacruze]

Sounds like a note to the SF auto theft department is in order.

[bull]

Yea, I think I'd be blowing this wide open if I were that guy. I'd call every law enforcement agency I could think of and every media outlet too. At least he's still got the fender tag and build sheet.

[Chargerrtforme]

Wow amazing story. Very sad. Hope it all works out.

[Tilar]

brad did try to retreave the car only to be met by 15+ bandana wearing mexicans.

1 AK47 can drop 15 bandana wearing mexicans in just under 20 seconds.

[twodko]

The trick is getting away with it. Come on, you know the crims have more rights than non-crims. Right?
Most freakin' definitely what Bull said.

[Charger_Fan]

+1 with Bull's idea!

[Patronus]

I bet if we all went down there together things would start to happen real quick.

[twodko]

I like that idea.........I'm in.

[bullit68]

brads not a friend of mine,but a buddy was trying to deal on the car before all this crap started and told me of the situation.it makes my blood boil hearing stuff like this.brad did go to the police,but they wont do anything calling it a domestic situation.

[Patronus]

I wonder if you couldn't make it happen. Use craigslist or something, get a date going and pass it along. Hell, I bet if you tried you could get a thousand people to show up! You know the rules, never ever touch the car...

[bull]

brads not a friend of mine,but a buddy was trying to deal on the car before all this crap started and told me of the situation.it makes my blood boil hearing stuff like this.brad did go to the police,but they wont do anything calling it a domestic situation.

I bet the cops would pay attention if about 30 guys with pitch forks and torches showed up at the thief's house and a couple of TV news vans were there. Where does this guy live?

[bullit68]

"South San Francisco".i left him a nasty note on his ebay auction,but of course he didnt reply back.

[Brock Samson]

 Where?.. be exact. 

[Khyron]

brads not a friend of mine,but a buddy was trying to deal on the car before all this crap started and told me of the situation.it makes my blood boil hearing stuff like this.brad did go to the police,but they wont do anything calling it a domestic situation.

I bet the cops would pay attention if about 30 guys with pitch forks and torches showed up at the thief's house and a couple of TV news vans were there. Where does this guy live?

= hate crime .... remember, they have more rights then us :rolleyes:

[bull]

Where?.. be exact. 

It's about time to gather the Bay Area Mopar Posse, stop by the local feed store for some "angry mob" supplies and pay the guy a visit.

brads not a friend of mine,but a buddy was trying to deal on the car before all this crap started and told me of the situation.it makes my blood boil hearing stuff like this.brad did go to the police,but they wont do anything calling it a domestic situation.

I bet the cops would pay attention if about 30 guys with pitch forks and torches showed up at the thief's house and a couple of TV news vans were there. Where does this guy live?

= hate crime .... remember, they have more rights then us :rolleyes:

Hate crime? Is the guy gay or something?

[69daytonaQ5]

This is the shit I'm affraid of

[tan top]

    this one    

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,76123.0.html
 the ********     & the police wont do nothing !! thats crazy  !  
hope it gets sorted !!    not sure what can be done !! if you turn up mob handed !  they could wreck the car  !!   they have a title for the car !!  , i imagine there is no written agreement what this body shop guys agreement was    

[chargermike]

who the hell leaves a hemi charger with a gang bangin mexican body shop. if your so stupid to leave a priceless car at a mexican gang banger body shop then you got just what you got. here an idea. HIRE A AMERICAN who you can trust. he tried to get it done cheap and on a deal. well it got done cheap. kinda just gave it away. everyone who has ever worked on my charger i know real well. if i dont know you. you will never touch my car. sorry for your friend but he should have taken the car to a trust worthy shop.  but i bet the car looks good with dingle balls and a mother de gaualupe painted on it with a crushed velvet interior bangin out LA BAMBA on the radio.  he should get the police or just get a lawyer or quit crying. 

[Cooter]

who the hell leaves a hemi charger with a gang bangin mexican body shop. if your so stupid to leave a priceless car at a mexican gang banger body shop then you got just what you got. here an idea. HIRE A AMERICAN who you can trust. he tried to get it done cheap and on a deal. well it got done cheap. kinda just gave it away. everyone who has ever worked on my charger i know real well. if i dont know you. you will never touch my car. sorry for your friend but he should have taken the car to a trust worthy shop.  but i bet the car looks good with dingle balls and a mother de gaualupe painted on it with a crushed velvet interior bangin out LA BAMBA on the radio.  he should get the police or just get a lawyer or quit crying.  

Amen, Who the hell gives the title to the car and trusts someone in this economy? Hell, there are only two people I trust in this world..1. My Momma 2. A dead man, and with my Momma , I still cut the deck...

[Charger-Bodie]

I have a feeling that there is parts of this story We havent heard yet.

[xx29440charger]

What is the name of the body shop? I was wondering why that Hemi Charger was so cheap. I new there had to be a catch.

[Cooter]

Anybody who buys the Charger is asking to be screwed to the wall...First, you were recieving stolen merchandise. Second, you will return that car to the rightful owner if found to be in fact, stolen. Third, your wallet will be lightened by about $50K...Psst, I have some ocean front property in Arizona if your interested...

[Troy]

who the hell leaves a hemi charger with a gang bangin mexican body shop. if your so stupid to leave a priceless car at a mexican gang banger body shop then you got just what you got. here an idea. HIRE A AMERICAN who you can trust. he tried to get it done cheap and on a deal. well it got done cheap. kinda just gave it away. everyone who has ever worked on my charger i know real well. if i dont know you. you will never touch my car. sorry for your friend but he should have taken the car to a trust worthy shop.  but i bet the car looks good with dingle balls and a mother de gaualupe painted on it with a crushed velvet interior bangin out LA BAMBA on the radio.  he should get the police or just get a lawyer or quit crying. 

Well, we all have our opinions I guess. I can tell you that I've never been ripped off in a deal by anyone who wasn't a white American - and that includes supposedly "reputable" shops. Now, I've had stuff stolen (or attempted to be stolen) by folks who weren't white but that's not the same as meeting face to face, making a deal, shaking hands, and still getting screwed.

As for the car, isn't there a saying that goes something like "possession is 9/10ths of the law"? I had a shop hold my car hostage once. It ruined any trust I have for any other shop. Police did the same thing - told me it was a civil matter but they were waiting for me at the shop in case I "tried to start any trouble".

Troy

[Charger_Fan]

I have a feeling that there is parts of this story We havent heard yet.

You're probably right. It's one thing for the body shop to end up with the Charger, but the title too?

[Ghoste]

brads not a friend of mine,but a buddy was trying to deal on the car before all this crap started and told me of the situation.it makes my blood boil hearing stuff like this.brad did go to the police,but they wont do anything calling it a domestic situation.

A domestic situation?  WTF?  I agree, there has to be more to this story.

[Brock Samson]

I cannot comment without having more info, I thought I could do some investigating since I know most of the south city mopar folks and shops,.. 
Some of the comments made thus far are nothing short of ludicrous.

[bull]

I cannot comment without having more info, I thought I could do some investigating since I know most of the south city mopar folks and shops,.. 

Here's a good place to start, Magnum.

[Brock Samson]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fdzRnS3VuY

[tan top]

I have a feeling that there is parts of this story We havent heard yet.

You're probably right. It's one thing for the body shop to end up with the Charger, but the title too?

yeah thinking this also

[terrible one]

he used a warehousemans lein.

Not saying true or false, but you guys seem to have forgotten that the OP said the seller in question used a warehouser's lien to obtain a title.

[daveco]

I have a feeling that there is parts of this story We havent heard yet.

You're probably right. It's one thing for the body shop to end up with the Charger, but the title too?

yeah thinking this also

I agree, more to the story. Maybe he should have taken it to the white guy in Kentucky. http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,66310.0.html

[Ghoste]

I don't know that white or Mexican or even Martian has anything to do with it but there do seem to be one or two odd gaps in the story.

[69daytonaQ5]

Id trust a mexican over a redneck anyday..only because the mexican wouldn't know what he's got and the white dude would try to screw u because he knows what. He's got...either way we don't even know what race had to do with this so all that talk about race is pure ignorant

[Sean]

guys get off the race issue, has nothing to do with what is going on here.

[68charger383]

The story isn't really adding up for me....guy gives a car to someone else to clean up for BJ and they'll share the profits etc., mechanic lien placed etc., seems like we're missing a lot of the small details. 

If he needed Ex. $15K to bail the $100K + BJ potential car out from the body shop, I'm sure there were plenty of people who would have lined up (with a written contract) to give him the money we'll say in exchange for repayment of the loan + $5K upon the sale etc.   

[Khyron]

Hate crime? Is the guy gay or something?

i read somewhere mexicans were involved....therefore, anything done by force is a hate crime...

He's got...either way we don't even know what race had to do with this so all that talk about race is pure ignorant

i believe the original statement was a descriptive term, *I* was pointing out you cant go in and start swinging or shooting because unfortunatly, like it or not, and action done WOULD be a race thing....

[Brass]

guys get off the race issue, has nothing to do with what is going on here.

 

[bullit68]

i posted the story as told to me.the guy brad who lost the car isn't whining at all,in fact hes walked away from it and is trying to forget about it.he realizes hes made a stupid mistake.but hes not in a financial position to do anything about it.thats why this is so sad.this con man is a slick talker and could sell ice to an eskimo.because brad has owned the car for 35+ years(in storage on his dads property)does not mean hes a savvy car guy or even a car guy at all.he was trying to clean it up a little to sell and got conned bigtime.someone who lives near there should stop by and inquire about the car.ask him how long hes had it and where he got it.if we can get the word out that the car is stolen,it'll make it hard for him to sell.this whole thing turns my stomach.

[69bronzeT5]

There has to be something that can be done. There is NO WAY IN HELL I would walk away from a '70 Hemi Charger that I've owned for 35+ years and let some scumbag keep it.....no frickin' way.

[drifter69]

It's to late to handel this the old fashion way, everyone knows about it. If I was this guy I would make sure everyone knows this story. Someone that has the money for a car like this will not want the tag that comes with it. Follow the car and let everyone know the bullshit that goes with the sale. I would make the car famous for being stolen. I only say this because if I did not have the money to fix the problem legaly, this would be my course of action. That being said, WTF WAS HE THINKING IN THE FIRST PLACE!

[Sean]

i posted the story as told to me.the guy brad who lost the car isn't whining at all,in fact hes walked away from it and is trying to forget about it.he realizes hes made a stupid mistake.but hes not in a financial position to do anything about it.thats why this is so sad.this con man is a slick talker and could sell ice to an eskimo.because brad has owned the car for 35+ years(in storage on his dads property)does not mean hes a savvy car guy or even a car guy at all.he was trying to clean it up a little to sell and got conned bigtime.someone who lives near there should stop by and inquire about the car.ask him how long hes had it and where he got it.if we can get the word out that the car is stolen,it'll make it hard for him to sell.this whole thing turns my stomach.

how can we get ahold of brad and hear his side? Can you direct him to this forum?

[clanton]

  Wheeeeewww Im glad I didnt get involved with that car. Sounds like robbing paul to pay peter! 

[TUFCAT]

I'd have a good lawyer lined-up before posting this on a public forum.

[Sean]

the details over floweth

[clanton]

  poor sean...

[Bossman963]

This a**hole should be shot and I think we should all gather and go take back Brad car- what a bummer
This guys sure Lucky that Brad not a loose cannon as me as I would just show up- let him look down the muzzle a  machine gun and just take back my car

[elacruze]

I have a feeling that there is parts of this story We havent heard yet.

My imagination says there could have been a deal under the table to obtain clear title through the body shop because it wasn't obtainable otherwise.

Just a thought.

[rt green]

 

[Old Moparz]

I'd have a good lawyer lined-up before posting this on a public forum.

But you forgot something, this webforum thingy is the closest there is to a starring role on a reality daytime fist fighting, talk show.  


I've always wondered the same thing, why would someone air this in public & make it worse? It's always been best to get everything lined up legally first, then warn others later. There has to be a lawyer who would take this on contingency, mine did.

[dkn1997]

he used a warehousemans lein.brad doesn't have the money to take him to court so therefore has lost his car

It sounds like the bodyshop guy has the car legally....scummy, but legally.  This whole scenario stinks to high hell and I bet what's been written here is about 1/1000th of a percent of the whole story. 

[HOTROD]

yah 

[66FBCharger]

Any updates to this story?