Mopar fans... Harley Fans

[Nacho-RT74]

It is just my imagination or really it looks on the automobile fan world, we, Mopar guys, are the closer to the spirit of the Harley fans in the world ?


dunno if you got what I meant

[moparstuart]

extremely brand loyal   

[ITSA426]

I don't care.  I'm not getting a tattoo!

[BigBlockSam]

CRAZY!

[learical1]

It is just my imagination or really it looks on the automobile fan world, we, Mopar guys, are the closer to the spirit of the Harley fans in the world ?


dunno if you got what I meant

Maybe in spirit, but Ford had the Harley-Davidson version, not Dodge.   Or is that Ram, not Dodge?

[71charger_fan]

I'm a hard-core Mopar guy, but I hate Harleys.

[ACUDANUT]

I don't care.  I'm not getting a tattoo!

lol. Also,  hopefully our cars are more dependable than a HD.

[John_Kunkel]

Does being an owner necessarily make you a fan? I'm a Harley owner but don't consider myself a fan.

[ChgrSteve67]

I always thoght we were closer to the Triumph guys than the Harley guys.

Harley is too main steam for me, I like being different.

[vancamp]

I always thoght we were closer to the Triumph guys than the Harley guys.

Harley is too main steam for me, I like being different.

closer to indian guys like them our company has been sold and resurected several times.

[68X426]

I always thoght we were closer to the Triumph guys than the Harley guys.

Harley is too main steam for me, I like being different.

closer to indian guys like them our company has been sold and resurected several times.

Agreed. Indians. Harley is ordinary, Triumph cool yes, but Indian culture, history, respect and attitude, yeah that's the one.

[chargermike]

i just thought we were the guys who rode the short bus.

[ACUDANUT]

 I'll take a Amercian owned VICTORY Motor Cycle before I'll own another Harley. 

[Hemidog]

It's the engine noise!

[ITSA426]

Potato, potato, potato, potato

Still no tattoo!

[Tom Q]

Is this what you mean?
Below is a diatribe written by some one else. I like it because it tells a more realistic view about most Harley Heads aka Pirates!!! People I like to avoid when riding.
I can be a critic as I ride, I ride a lot, alone with nobody else. 35 yrs and counting.

I will make the exclusion for the quiet Harley/Honda touring bike riders [it's called an ultra classic or a gold wing-harley & hondas most boring motorcycles]  who ride more than a couple thousand miles a year and leave their home base for parts unknown.  [Another Hint it's called adventure!!]

Being a 3.14 percenter [PI rider] I ride for the ride and the adventure, not for any particular look or destination.  It's not the destination - it's the journey.   In fact from outward appearances you can't tell I ride even when riding...think Dilbert on a motorcycle. I would rather ride my motorcycle than drive any mopar. My cars are for sale, come buy them. Remember loud pipes suck just like loud cars.

Get on You Tube and watch the South Park episode about the Harley people.

Now pay close attention here! I did not write the following, but I did copy edit it.

Harley Davidson owners are so preoccupied with image and sound that they've forgotten the basic principle of riding a motorcycle. Image and sound are nothing as they are meaningless, but you can't convince people of that today. All of that image came from a corporate catalog... One Harley rider looks like another, pretty much, yet they all claim that they are 'individuals' but in reality they look alike, and they all ride the same thing; junk.

Very few Harleys are truly fast or powerful. Most are just loud rattletraps. You can get studded, braided, polished, painted, chromed, but ... it's all flash for the flock behavior mindset. The extremes that most Harley owners go to is tacky and tasteless, and laughable. The roar of a V twin Harley is really just the growling of a sheep in wolf's clothing, and the bleating of the image driven lemmings that ride them. By the time that you get any decent performance out of a Harley, you could have bought several non Harley bikes. A top of the line Harley costs many thousands more than a comparable import motorcycle, is less dependable, doesn't enjoy the quality or workmanship, and won't even perform as well. It isn't even close.

Harley Davidson is about one of the smartest motorcycle manufacturers in the world. The stupidity can be traced right back to YOU, the unwitting public who buys what Milwaukee is selling only one thing–image with no substance at a price. Anyone can ride a Harley, it just takes lots of money and very little brains. How else can you explain paying so much and receiving so little in return?

A Harley isn't a real motorcycle as it is nothing more than a rolling image, a self-propelled personal public relations machine that you rent for your ego to show off to the rest of the world that you are something that you really aren't. "Hey! I ride a Harley! I'm bad! Don't mess with me or you'll be sorry!" For most a harley is a big, overpriced ego boosting scooter, geared for people too timid to make a statement to the world any other way than through noise and flash. Posers and wannabes buy Harleys.  Harley is a product that captures very little of the American experience and doesn't represent what a real American motorcycle should be. America stands for technology, ingenuity, performance, and innovation. Milwaukee churns out the same tired old designs every year, change the tank, paint it black, add forty pounds of chrome and 3 grand to the price and give it a name like American Historical Limited Edition Super Extra Easy Wide Glide FGXLHR or something equally incoherent and viola! You have a brand new Harley for this model year.

People are sheep, and sheep like to be part of flocks, and flocks need a way to identify sheep that belong to them. It is simple brand association at work, much like cattle in the old west. Hence the Harley Davidson officially licensed products that really don't have much to do with the actual motorcycle experience itself. Who needs reliability and technology when you have the power of marketing. Harley found their target market; fools with too much money and not enough common sense. It's all about a canned and commercially available image. It sure isn't about performance. You subscribe to it with each T-shirt or accessory that you buy. How many people out there have a HD emblem sticker in their truck window but don't own a HD? How many people wear a HD T-shirt, but don't own the motorcycle.

So, where is America's most powerful motorcycle? America doesn't have one as america doesn't build a single high performance motorcycle. Not one. Screaming Eagle CVO?...hardly a performance machine...

A Harley is God's way of saying that you have too much money and not enough brains.

I really get tired of people coming up to me and saying "You need to get a real bike, not some damn rice burner!" If America is willing to buy an image, then Milwaukee is selling.

Thunder is powerful and loud. Harleys are just obnoxiously loud. I think the truth in advertising should apply to Milwaukee as well, if so, it would be called "American Noise" not American thunder.

The only people in the world who build a decent sporting V-twin are the Japanese and the Italians. The Germans build decent motorcycles but I think the Japanese and Italians are ahead in the game there.

The American V-twin is an overweight, underpowered waste of good material and metal. Freedom.? Power?  The American V-Twin? The American embarrassment is more like it. It takes 98 -110 cubic inches of American V-Twin to even come close to what 600ccs of Japanese in-line four can pump out for performance.  No innovation. No high technology. No change whatsoever. Harley rider's logic is about as reliable as the machines they choose to ride on and that isn't saying much.

What a bunch of stupid commercial driven trend humping NASCAR following redneck lemmings... You just paid a butt-load of money for the world's worst accelerating, worst handling, worst braking, heaviest, loudest, and ugliest motorcycle. How smart does that make you feel right now? If you say that it was a wise investment, then there really is no hope for you. You are terminally deluded by the media and your own lack of any self worth. When you turn that key in your new or used Harley, you don't turn into the Incredible Hulk, you stay the same old boring soul who works from eight to five in a cubicle. So you ride a Harley. Big deal. You bought into an image fabricated by countless TV shows and Hollywood movies depicting a life on a motorcyle that you simply weren't cut out for. You WISH you could be like Lorenzo Llamas in that lame TV series, RENEGADE. You WISH you could be like Peter Fonda as "Captain America" and Dennis Hopper as "Billy" in EASY RIDER, cruising America doing whatever you want, being bad and breaking the law.  But you can't. It's all make believe and you just bought a make believe motorcycle.

The target buyer for Harley Davidson, typically are male, overweight, middle aged,  with an abundance of tattoos, body and facial hair, and odious personal habits. They also tend to have a severe leather fetish with a passion for chains, tassels, and metal studs.

These are just my opinions, but it explains why I don't like Harleys. I don't think that a Harley is an American bike. America stands for power, and that power is always bundled in fast, sleek, and innovative cutting edge packages. Harley stands for none of that, and it hasn't for about thirty years now. You can paint as many American flags as you want on the gas tanks or the helmets, but it still doesn't change what Milwaukee can't do. Milwaukee can't lead America in competition with the rest of the world. Until America builds real bikes, Americans will buy their real bikes from Japan and Italy and Germany.

You don't ride a Harley Davidson so much as you worship it. You and every other little acolyte. A Harley Davidson is a rolling altar to mediocrity, you bend your knees and you pray to a pagan idol of chrome and leather for the pitiful life that you glean from it. So many people are so clueless when it comes to motorcycles. They can't stand on their own, they aren't tough enough to be individuals, so they have to reinforce their own self image with artificial constructs.  Harley Davidson. It's not a motorcycle company. It is a pagan cult religion for brain dead trend humping fashion lemmings.

Remember I did not write the above but I did copy edit it.

[Charger_Fan]

I don't own a Harley, but wouldn't mind one or two select models. Where Harley's are concerned, I'm more of a Buell (Harley engine) sort of guy. I don't own a Buell yet either because I'm flat friggin' broke these days, but I do plan to buy one asap. Until then, I'll just enjoy my V-Max.
And no, I won't get a Buell tattoo either.

[John_Kunkel]

Is this what you mean?
Below is a diatribe written by some one else. I like it because it tells a more realistic view about most Harley Heads aka Pirates!!! People I like Remember I did not write the above but I did copy edit it.

Harley Davidson owners are so preoccupied with image and sound that they've forgotten the basic principle of riding a motorcycle. Image and sound are nothing as they are meaningless, but you can't convince people of that today. All of that image came from a corporate catalog... One Harley rider looks like another, pretty much, yet they all claim that they are 'individuals' but in reality they look alike, and they all ride the same thing; junk

I have to disagree with the author on a couple of points, the contention that "Image and sound are nothing as they are meaningless," kinda puts the rub on all of us who are enamored to Mopars (image) and the Hemi (sound).

The contention that all Harley riders look alike is ludicrous, could also be aimed at the Euros/rice grinders as well.

While Harley engineering and quality has improved over the years they still don't compete with their competitors but "junk". Naw.

[ACUDANUT]

Quote from above "engineering and quality has improved over the years"  Yea right. 

[rattlehead_74]

Me and my harley have a Love<>Hate Relationship    But for the most part ...Im a lifer 

[JoeyGowdy]

Yes, that would appear to be true. Live to ride, Ride to live.   

[John_Kunkel]

Quote from above "engineering and quality has improved over the years"  Yea right. 

Instead of snide remarks how about expounding on what you disagree with.