1968 - 1969 Charger headlight vacuum harness hose kits

[gtx6970]

In regards to the head light vacuum harness that came out a couple years ago . I did a group buy on them when they first came out.

Just an FYI, to anyone who needs one better grab it quick. I was told today once current  inventory is depleted there will not be another run. This applies to the Superbird/ Daytona vacuum harness , both the 70 + 1971/72 airgrabber hood harness's  and all the underdash a/c control vacuum harness's

68-69 Charger kits are already gone and the Superbird/Daytona kit is being sold in it's place ,once it's gone there will be no more

[Troy]

Awww, man. I gave mine up because there were so many orders and now I don't have a set for either car. Bummer.

Troy

[tracpack440]

Hi. How much for a set for a 69 or the superbird  set.

[694spdRT]

Hi. How much for a set for a 69 or the superbird  set.

x2

[charge-it]

Great post Bill. I was just on the phone with Kent last week about this issue and he stated he had about 40 sets of Daytona/Superbird kits left and when those were gone that was the end of it. I was lucky to be able to get a set that one of my customers desperately needed. I'd be willing to bet that those will be gone before this week is over and this will definately leave a void of a sorely needed part of any 68-69 Charger/Daytona/Superbird resto.

[694spdRT]

Who has these last 40 sets for sale?

[gtx6970]

Hi. How much for a set for a 69 or the superbird  set.

I was notified this morning. about a price increase
so they are $195 a set

[Patronus]

this is retarded. Better buy em quick, the price is up!!

[66FBCharger]

Who do i contact about buying a harness? What is the difference between the Charger harness and the Daytona/Superbird harness?

[resq302]

Who do i contact about buying a harness? What is the difference between the Charger harness and the Daytona/Superbird harness?

There is an extra length of hose for the nose on the superbirds and daytonas.

[tan top]

this is retarded. Better buy em quick, the price is up!!

yeah thats crazy  , surly there is enough chargers etc etc to  warrent repoping them still 

[gtx6970]

this is retarded. Better buy em quick, the price is up!!

yeah thats crazy  , surly there is enough chargers etc etc to  warrent repoping them still  

One would think,

But once intital demand wavered after they were released.Sales dropped, same as anything else. Case in point. When these came out about 3 years back . I did a group buy and sold maybe 20 sets, but probably haven't sold  5 or 6 sets since.

The company producing the special ribbed hose had issues in part of the manufacturing process where the stripes were put on the exterior of the hose and no longer wishes to do them at all.
So my supplier has been trying for over a year to find someone else to do this part of the operation without much  success. So he's called it quits and once inventory is gone, thats it

[Chatt69chgr]

Bill,

Is this just for the vacuum hoses that are under the hood?  What about under dash vacuum hoses? 

[gtx6970]

Bill,

Is this just for the vacuum hoses that are under the hood?  What about under dash vacuum hoses? 

This kit ( shown above ) is from the headlight switch on the backside of the dash, thru the firewall( firewall grommet included )  all the way forward to the headlight door actuators

[gtx6970]

Bill,

Is this just for the vacuum hoses that are under the hood?  What about under dash vacuum hoses? 

All of the currently produced striped vacuum harness are on the chopping block.
Including the charger  - superbird/daytona headlight vacuum harness's, both versions of the Air grabber hood harness's, and all the A/C box underdash harness's

[Chatt69chgr]

OK Bill----This kit is from the headlight switch, thru the firewall, and out to the way to the headlight door actuators.  I got that kit from you when you first started selling these.  Now, is there another kit for the A/C box underdash harness's?  I didn't see it on your website.  If so, what's the part number and price.

[66FBCharger]

Bill,
Do you have any of these kits for sale? Who sells them? I need one for my Charger and would like to get a new set before they are no longer available.

[gtx6970]

OK Bill----This kit is from the headlight switch, thru the firewall, and out to the way to the headlight door actuators.  I got that kit from you when you first started selling these.  Now, is there another kit for the A/C box underdash harness's?  I didn't see it on your website.  If so, what's the part number and price.

I've never sold or even been asked for one, thus never stocked either one.

pt number is VHK7 for 1970 B-body a/c box  kit - $170
VHK7

pt # for the 68-69 B-body a/c box kit is VHK6 - $150
VHK6

[69RTSE]

Are any still remaining? 

[gtx6970]

No,none,nadda, the fat lady has sung and left the building

[bull]

So basically the whole thing was scuttled because someone got tired of putting a yellow stripe on one of the hoses? Seems to me that's kind of a lame reason to completely stop production. I imagine some people would still buy these sets, even without the yellow stripe. I would if that's all I could get but then I was one of those first 20 buyers you talked about. Heck, just include a yellow paint pen with the set (that's kinda the way Wheel Vintiques handles their peeling wheel paint).

[six-tee-nine]

Maybe we should send a link of this topic to the BE&A guys......

[clanton]

But wait theres more!  ......Anything to sell a product.

[gtx6970]

But wait theres more!  ......Anything to sell a product.

your point?

[gtx6970]

Maybe we should send a link of this topic to the BE&A guys......

I believe PG classic has done or used to do  a generik version of these. But even they are gone I believe.

This is a problem with anything reproduction. Once demand dies off it becomes very cost restrictive to do another production run . Most items need a production run of at least 250 pieces, sometimes less , usually more.
When items are so application specific it makes it even more unlikely.

Here an example.
I've looked into having the bracket that mounts to the pass side inner fender produced. The one for 1969 B-bodies only, with factory air only. and by all accounts it's just not cost effective to produce due to such a low demand. unless it could be retailed in the $50 - $60 range each, which I have serious doubts would sell

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Here an example.
I've looked into having the bracket that mounts to the pass side inner fender produced. The one for 1969 B-bodies only, with factory air only. and by all accounts it's just not cost effective to produce due to such a low demand. unless it could be retailed in the $50 - $60 range each, which I have serious doubts would sell

You mean like this one I made?

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,67069.0.html

[bull]

This is a problem with anything reproduction. Once demand dies off it becomes very cost restrictive to do another production run . Most items need a production run of at least 250 pieces, sometimes less , usually more.
When items are so application specific it makes it even more unlikely.

I'm no businessman but it doesn't seem logical to me to run off 250 headlight vacuum harness hose kits at a time. Is that how this part was produced? Something like this could easily be made one at a time when ordered. I can see how certain metal parts might require a large production run but not these.

If people in the US would actually go out into their workshops and produce 10-20 of a certain kind of bracket, brace, whatever, instead of spending three months doing R&D and negotiating with four different foreign production companies to make 250 pieces of something they'll only sell 25 of, I think we'd be better off. I know a machinist who used to do that with made-to-order 33-34 Plymouth reproduction stainless grill inserts and it worked out great. Demand was low but he he kept the money at home and the buyers knew they were getting a quality, hand-made part produced in the USA.

[gtx6970]

I'm no businessman but it doesn't seem logical to me to run off 250 headlight vacuum harness hose kits at a time. Is that how this part was produced? Something like this could easily be made one at a time when ordered. I can see how certain metal parts might require a large production run but not these.

so you think its more cost effective to make a $200 part one at a time?
run the mold to do the switch connecter plug, run the mold to do the firewall grommet, set up the jig and hand assemble the hoses one set at a time

good luck with that

[clanton]

But wait theres more!  ......Anything to sell a product.

your point?

Go sell them on ebay

[bull]

so you think its more cost effective to make a $200 part one at a time?
run the mold to do the switch connecter plug, run the mold to do the firewall grommet, set up the jig and hand assemble the hoses one set at a time

good luck with that

Well, you don't have to create molds for every little plastic part and grommet. You've no doubt heard of the Dimension 3D printer, and plastic parts can be made on a CNC mill. Once the programming is done on either one of those machines a guy can run single parts off individually in minutes. For the amount of small parts that could be made on one of those machines (a machine that would cost about half the price of a 68 Charger headlight bezel mold) I would think it would be a good investment. That switch connector is not a complicated piece. A five-minute google search revealed that there are plenty of three-hole firewall grommets available. The point is, once a person is set up to make a low-demand part I think the benefits outweigh the costs compared to sending parts overseas for mass production. Too many people are locked into this mass production mentality which works quite well for Fisher Price but not so well to meet a dwindling demand for old muscle car parts.

[six-tee-nine]

Maybe we should send a link of this topic to the BE&A guys......

I believe PG classic has done or used to do  a generik version of these. But even they are gone I believe.

This is a problem with anything reproduction. Once demand dies off it becomes very cost restrictive to do another production run . Most items need a production run of at least 250 pieces, sometimes less , usually more.
When items are so application specific it makes it even more unlikely.

Here an example.
I've looked into having the bracket that mounts to the pass side inner fender produced. The one for 1969 B-bodies only, with factory air only. and by all accounts it's just not cost effective to produce due to such a low demand. unless it could be retailed in the $50 - $60 range each, which I have serious doubts would sell

True, its a 68/69 Charger Daytona specific thing these vacuum hoses.....

[bull]

FYI, Megaparts is still listing this part on their site. Not sure if they actually have stock, bought up what was left or are making their own but they do list it.

http://www.megapartsusa.com/proddetail.asp?prod=102%2DVHK3

[stripedelete]

FYI, Megaparts is still listing this part on their site. Not sure if they actually have stock, bought up what was left or are making their own but they do list it.

http://www.megapartsusa.com/proddetail.asp?prod=102%2DVHK3

Called them last week.  They have none.  They are almost certain no more will be produced.

[bull]

Oh, ok. So much for that idea.

[66FBCharger]

I guess I got lucky. I bought one from mega parts when I first read this thread. I wanted to get a second one for a future project. I guess I waited too long!